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February 7, 2013 11:00:49 PM

Iv heard great things about this place with assistance in deciding on hardware. As im currently working on repairing my wifes car of a burnt valve (and just snapped a intake bolt off in the head due to a faulty torque wrench), I dont have the time to invest to fully research the components like I did on my last two builds. Any help is greatly appreciated. Some info.

I want to purchase all new components, prefer from tigerdirect or newegg unless someone else knows of a better "all in one" type shop.

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Must Haves

Intel Based i7 processor, overclockabl, prefer newest/fastest but not extreme edition, dont feel they are worth the large chunk of cash.

Nvidia 670 X2 in SLI (I dont feel the 680 is worth the extra cash?)

Min 16 gigs of ram

A roomy tower case in a black/silver/pewter (my monitor and keyboard and mouse are black so something to semi match). Enough space for the SLI, Aftermarket coolers etc. I will be using air cooling, feel free to recommend best options on those also.
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Other then that the rest is all up to what you guys think is the best thing going. I will most likely be running windows 7, maaaaybbee 8. DVD drive etc not to worried about, ill probably just snag a cheap one.

I have a budget of 2000-2200 dollars and will be ordering the parts tomorrow night (Feb 8th)

Thanks

February 7, 2013 11:02:16 PM

Oh and its a gaming PC, incase it wasnt obvious. 1080P resolution monitor
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February 7, 2013 11:15:55 PM

No sense in going SLI on a single 1080p monitor. or an i7 if it's a gaming PC

No one will ever recommend you a 680. The 670 is only 5% slow but $100 cheaper so you really won't notice the difference.

You will never need 16gb for gaming. 4gb is enough, 8gb is futureproofing.

CM 212 Hyper Evo
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February 7, 2013 11:26:41 PM

Here's a recent $2,382 Build .... it's driving a 120Hz 3D monitor.

Case - $235 - Corsair Carbide 500R http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
As you can see by the ratings it tops many more expensive cases.

PSU - inc w/ case - Corsair HX850
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Lower Ripple and better voltage stability than AX850

MoBo - $642 - ASUS P8Z77-WS http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_p8z77_ws/1...
Lotta money but oh what a sweet board ... and nice spacing between the GFX cards

CPU - incl w/ Mobo - Intel Core i7-3770K

Cooler - $80 - Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe...
While some (I.e DH-14) can just about match it thermally, none comes close in the warranty and aesthetics department. Expect 3-5C lower temps than a Hyper 612 and 5-7C lower than a hyper 212

TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
Same thermals of AS5 but w/o AS5's curing issues.

RAM - $110 - (2 x 8GB) Mushkin Redline CAS 8 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$0 Free Hawken In Game Credit w/ purchase, limited offer
Nice price for CAS8

GFX - $400 - Asus GTX 670 DCII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $400 - Asus GTX 670 DCII
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670...
Only 10.0 rating ever given by techpowerup

If playing at 2560 x 1600 or above, I'd look at the 7970 Ghz
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edit...

At 1920 x 1080 .... here's techpowerups results....

Asus GTX 670 DCII
Alan Wake 77.8
AvP 53.0
Batman Arkham City 90.7
BF3 72.9
BattleForge 129.9
CoD4 223.1
Civilization 4 85.9
Crysis 55.4
Crysis 2 67.4
Dirt 3 229.4
Dragon Age II 67.7
Hard Reset 92.4
Metro 2033 28.7
Stalker CoP 99.2
Starcraft 2 113.3
Shogun 2 62.4
Skyrim 79.1
WoW 142.5
Total 1770.8

7979 GHz
Alan Wake 84.3
AvP 59.5
Batman Arkham City 77.5
BF3 64.4
BattleForge 145.7
CoD4 222.0
Civilization 5 83.0
Crysis 55.7
Crysis 2 62.2
Dirt 3 174.6
Dragon Age II 58.2
Hard Reset 82.7
Metro 2033 33.9
Stalker CoP 91.7
Starcraft 2 113.4
Shogun 2 61.8
Skyrim 74.4
WoW 102.9
Total 1647.9



HD - $200 Caviar Black 2TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD - $250 - Samsung 840 pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD Writer - $60 - ASUS Blue Ray Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Whaddya need to change to get within your budget range ?

Save $70 - That's a 5 year warranty fast HD, you could pay half as much for a 2TB drive but likely 1 - 2 year warranty.


Save $100 - Save $135 with the Asus Saberttooth .... 5 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
+ $15 off w/ promo code cmptupgrd1, ends 2/11

Save $100 by dropping to a 3570k if its a gaming box, the 3770k's hyperthreading wont benefit ya much.

Save $16 by dropping to CAS 9 memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Save $40 by dropping to 8GB....thats the absolute minimum tho......games do in fact do better > 4GB .... even old gamed like half life
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-memory-upgrade,...

And I can't agree on the SLI is useless thing @ 1920 x 1080..... Not all games will trouble a single 670 but some will. Metro 2033 w/ one 670 is about 30 fps at high settings .... two gets ya to 50.
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/2725/15/nvidia-geforce-...
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February 7, 2013 11:28:50 PM

Get a 3570k.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.97 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: EVGA Z77 FTW EATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($216.50 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Gun Metal) ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1863.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-07 20:26 EST-0500)

Thats why i would probably get. I have a hard time telling someone to get a 670 when the 7970's are the same price lol. This is obviously overkill. Unless you really wanna spend 2 grand, drop one 7970, drop ssd to 128gb ssd, drop the psu to a 550w seasonic, drop the expensive motherboard etc. But this is about the best your gonna get for 2k.
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February 7, 2013 11:51:24 PM

The only concern I have with ATI stems from an Alienware m17x R2 that I had with 5870s (I think). I noticed alot more incompatabillity and micro stutter on those compared to my Nvidia 470s on my desktop. In your opinions do you think that ATI and Nvidia have cought up some in the SLI/Crossfire thing? I know theres always a game that plays better on one or the other in crossfire but im just talking majority at the time went to nvidia.
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February 8, 2013 12:14:11 AM

CF and SLI compete pretty well at the $200 card and up range and microstutter in this category remains something people "read about" in a forum post some where ... caveats are:

1. No more than 2 cards in CF.
2. nVidia is a bit faster out the gate the AMD with new game profiles, but that gap is shrinking.

Once ya get below the $200 per card mark, microstutter becomes a concern and apparently more of a concern on AMD according to the THG article on the topic.

Latency is the new catchword in the GFX card battle .... the link below covers the 660 Ti vs 7950 battle .... I'm real interested to see how this carries up the ladder to the high end cards.

http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-ge...

Check out the graph in the link above .....loss of "smoothness" in gameplay is represented by how many spikes high (and low) ya see.
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February 8, 2013 12:35:47 AM

Whats your opinion of dropping to that sabertooth combo instead of first board you suggested? Im kind of digging the all black an covered circuits. Performance the same? Also id like to drop the HD to 1 tb and SSD can go 128. Warranty not a big concern for me past a year. I dont wanna drop ram to cas9 thats certain. Any suggestions on more economical HD and SSD?
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February 8, 2013 12:49:07 AM

ECONOMICAL would be WD Caviar Green and SSDs don't use much power. However I would recommend a WD Caviar Blue or Black as for SSD, the Samsung 840 Pro.
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