Should Bush testify in front of 9/11 commission?

With all the testifying that's going on now, does anyone else think Bush and the other top dogs in the administration, like Condoleezza Rice, should formally testify? I think getting the words directly from Bush would do a lot in letting the public know exactly what he thought and was having done about terrorism prior to 9/11, especially since that Clarke dude is saying that terrorism was considered an important issue, but not an urgent one, in the Bush administration.

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Yeah I'm sure he'll tell the truth just like Clinton and every other politician in the world.

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Reply to zpyrd

Clinton is not in the same league as President Bush.

Thats comparing an old french whore (nearly literally in Clintons case, in multiple aspects), to a true American patriot.

Politics are a necessary evil.

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News flash for you uniformed types-

Rice IS testifying.

Don't speak if you arent informed.

Unlike liberals, you dont have to make the President testify to get the truth.. you already have it.
As if testifying ever made a boot-licking liberal tell the truth anyway according to recent history.

edit to add-
Just a point. I notice nearly all the posts so far are from people who arent even American... do you really think you know more about this stuff than a real American such as myself? I think not.
I'm in the Republican party, I work with them all the time.. I know in depth about the issues.
Some douche-bag from some place in a insignificant country does not know enough about us and our politics to be a judge.
So if your nations are too weak to stand up for freedom and justice then sit down and talk about your own leaders.

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Now he's a liberal.Edited by kinney on 03/26/04 01:26 PM.

Reply to kinney

Well, when I posted the topic, Rice was saying she wouldn't testify. I wasn't being uninformed.

I think this administration is not putting the truth out on it's own. What that Clarke guy, a Republican, has been saying paints a different picture of what the Bush administration was doing prior to 9/11. He said that Al Quida was more important to the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration specifically downplayed their threat solely because the Clinton administration was telling them to focus on it. He also said that invading Iraq was more of a priority to the Bush administration proir to 9/11 than Al Quida was. He also says that by invading Iraq, Bush has severely undermined the war on terrorism.

I think he has some legitimate criticisms of this administration, and Bush should come forward and tell his own version of the truth and answer the questions posed to him.

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Reply to ksoth

My understanding that Clarke wasnt a republican, but that doesn't matter to me. He is discredited on so many levels in my view. Including all his contridictions and the fact that he is promoting his book. He is just looking to cash in at any cost.

Sig for sale.

Reply to buddry

No, Richard Clarke has contradicted himself.

He has been recorded saying that President Bush increased intelligence 5-fold over Clinton and now hes slamming the Bush administration.
This was of course, before his demotion by the Bush administration to cybersecurity head.

He's got ulterior motives here, that much is clear.
Either for his own gain or for Kerrys.
Unfortunately, Clarke WAS a credible source. He is no longer and he did it to himself.

All Clarke is really saying is before September 11, like everyone else in the United States including himself, did not make al Qaeda terrorism his number one priority. Everything else he says is unrelated, or for his gain.

The whole commission, and Clarke is a farce and another distraction from yet another moron who doesnt like President Bush and would rather talk about Bush's intentions and not his stellar record.

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By you saying Bush has a stellar record, I cannot accept anything you have to say on the subject. Everyone may have different political views, but I don't see how anyone can say this country has been in top notch shape under Bush's watch, regardless of what 9/11 did.

I don't know what it is about you. Either you are just completely kidding all the time, not really believing the nonsense you say, or our hatred for liberals is so great that in your own mind you canonize everyone who is opposed to them just to make you seem more right. It is very odd...

I also find it funny that when Clarke comes out with this stuff, all the Republicans immediately jump to the argument that he is only playing partisan politics. I really don't know what the deal is with him. But, with all the lies and deciept the upper administration officials have been putting off on the American public these past few years, I think it is good to finally hear a different story, someone who may actually be telling the truth with information that can actually explain something rather than the lies that hide everything.

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Reply to ksoth

First, I wonder if you are even American.
Second, because Bush has a stellar record makes my opinion invalid? Your a moron.

Yeah you're glad someones telling the "truth"..
theres such a huge mob of people out there with information on Bush lying about ANYTHING.

I think not.

And IF there was anything on Bush lying it WOULD BE OUT AND IT'D BE KNOWN.

Your pal Clarke has said what he had to say and its done.
Theres nothing there.
He contradicts himself.

So his words are pointless.
You may enjoy listening to any anti-Bush propaganda but watch, this will be revealed and forgotten (as it already has) to be as credible as the whole "AWOL Bush" bullshit that was such a huge deal to some of the morons across the world but now isnt even spoken about.
My suggestion to liberals propagating this distraction is to get a life and realize that your going to lose this election.

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Some douche-bag from some place in a insignificant country does not know enough about us and our politics to be a judge.

If that comment is directed at me then I think you live under a rock if you think Canada is an insignificant country when it is the United States largest trading partner.
By the way we know more about your country than 90% of your own citizens.

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Reply to zpyrd

come on dude at least have a little respect and say 56%.

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Reply to mrface

No wasnt meant towards anyone in particular.

You are correct in that many Americans are uniformed, it disgusts me.
I wont disagree there!

Most just listen to the liberal media and follow. I notice liberals (at least in this nation where the majority of the media IS liberal) are good at doing what their told.
Contrary to the usual assumption that the good little conservative boy "does what he's told".

Many Americans let people tell them how to think and feel.

Unlike the period of time in American history when the "counter culture" meant thinking for yourself.. it is now the norm and the opposite is true!

Ironic.

BTW I love Canada, my loyalties lie with America first, then North America, then the hemisphere then the rest of the world.. you get the pic.

I believe in North American solidarity and unity, we should be brothers and not be divided as the EU winds up with their unity and gathers clout.
We dont have to have a "union" but certainly need stronger pacts and relations IMO... and our politicians need to work together- period.

2sense.

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Second, because Bush has a stellar record makes my opinion invalid? Your a moron.

You must be insane. You do realize that Bush having a stellar record is an opinion in and of itself, don't you? What about my "a moron?"

You really don't think Bush, or the administration, has lied about anything? Wow... Here are just a few lies for you.

Bush himself said, "You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two. And we'll find more weapons as time goes on, but for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong. We found them." Of course this turned out to be a lie, said only to try to prove his case for war.

On "Meet the Press," Dick Cheney publically declared that Iraq was involved in the 9/11 attacks. When Bush was asked the same question the next day, he said Iraq was not involved. One of them was of course lying, most likely Cheney.

I could go into depth about the astonishing amount of lies Ari Fleisher has spewed on Bush's behalf, but it would probably take a million pages to do so. One such lie is Fleisher saying that Bush never in his campaigning said he was against nation building, which I'm sure you would even say is a lie.

More later, I have to go...

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Reply to ksoth

That was not a lie.. wtf are you talking about. He said they found two biochemical labs so far at that point.

That was a true statement.
I hope you used your "quote" in appropriate fashion and it is exactly what he DID say btw.. to put somethign in quotes when its not exactly correct to the letter and word is wrong.
Not saying you did that.
But just a reminder.

BTW what nationality are you?
I'm not going to use it against you, I'm merely curious if every-single-person-in-this thread at the time when I first posted was/is a foreigner.
I remember you saying at one time you lived in the USA for a short while and then left, or something to that extent.. but I dont recall the nation you live in now.

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Yes I was a bit harsh.
Proportionately comparing, we have the same number of idiots in Canada.

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Reply to zpyrd

Our Liberal party in Canada should be reclassified as socialist.
All they do is raise taxes and give away money. The middle class citizen is stuck with the bill while the poor get a free ride and the rich have a good time.
I'm not against assisting the under privledged. I believe they should contribute something (community services) to be eligable for benefits.
I'm not including farmers affected by drought or cattle ranchers affected by mad cow or fishermen affected by imposed catch restrictions. These people have jobs and contribute but have lost income because of circumstances out of their control.
The people who collect welfare and sit around and do nothing to help themselves should be made to contribute a few hours a month of community service.

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Reply to zpyrd

It was a lie because they didn't find any biochemical labs. They were hydrogen generators for either weather balloons or conventional weapons. It was not a true statement. It just goes to show you how this administration warps the facts or lies to justify its actions. That was also an exact quote.

I'm an American, and always have been. I've only left this country on a vacation to South America, where the people live in hell, which really showed me how great America is. That is why the actions of this administration are worrying me, as I feel they are destroying what makes this country great.

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:smile:

I think along the same lines as you do, generally.

My philosophy on government spending is simply that
I believe I know how to better spend my money than the government does.

Also that a smaller, tighter government.. governs better (generally). Or, I believe in states rights.. not federal tyranny.

Short and sweet!

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The people who collect welfare and sit around and do nothing to help themselves should be made to contribute a few hours a month of community service.

I'm not against some kind of assistance for disabled war veterans or someone in an extreme circumstance.. but most "disabled" people here in the USA are merely extremely overweight.
And most not because of a a real thyroid problem.

I always found it funny that while this is true, those are the people who take the handicapped spots that are closer to the door... if anything, those people should have their spots FARTHER away!!
I dont know if I'm completely serious but you get my drift..

bloated governments tend to make silly decisions and activists (such as myself) have a harder time infiltrating the enormous system. Not that I will ever give up.
I put out more effort both as an armchair and and physical activist as any one of these so called liberal activists. I'm planning a counter protest as of now with some like-minded friends..

Liberal has also essentially become socialist here as well IMO.
"Liberal" as far as from a intellectual standpoint such as the writings on the topic by Martin Luther King Jr is a beautiful thing IMO..
when I say "liberal", I am referring to the modern use of the word..
essentially the word has been hijacked by the FAR left.
Hence, it becoming nearly a "dirty" word.. it all makes sense if you stand back and look at it.

I dont know much about this lady, or Canada's politics to be honest.. but I think I like her.. very cute as well!
<A HREF="http://www.belinda.ca/Belinda/index.html" target="_new">Belinda Stronach</A> Though I couldnt see her ideas being popular with most of you guys there in the wild north (from merely glancing at your society) but I sure hope her party does gain power.
Whether you are conservative or not...I only wonder if your media attacks people like her like conservatives are biased against in our media as well.

We have our American equivalents!
<A HREF="http://www.townhall.com/acimgs/webimages/silver-dress.jpg" target="_new">*wink*</A>
Thats Ann Coulter in case you dont recognize the GOP (Grand Old Party) babe!

If you would like to see into the my mind, I am fairly far right in my thinking so bear with me... this site is one of my favorites.. and a great planner for conservative American activists such as myself, and might fit in some of your Canadian issues?
<A HREF="http://www.protestwarrior.com" target="_new">Protest Warrior</A>
Check out the tshirts and posters... you will see into my mind.

I dont know how old you are, but if you truly are more conservative than your nations "liberal party", then know you are fighting the good fight!!!

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Thanks for the reply.
I was dissapointed Belinda Stronach didn't win the Conservative party leadership.
IMO the Conservative party will not do well with Stephen Harper as leader.

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Reply to zpyrd

I seriously would like to take the time and show you how you are misled, yes I'm sure that Iraq was interested in flying weather balloons LOL.

IIRC they found a nuclear power plant in Iraq.
What does an oil driven nation need with a nuclear power plant??

What makes this nation great, is its diversity of ideas.. but not those that attempt to destroy the very foundations of its creation.
Lawyerizing the constitution and misinterpreting it until you have it say what you wish is the liberal agenda.

Essentially I see it as such-

Abraham Lincoln saw a nation divided, as do we. Between those who want liberty, and those who want power.*

You can either join us, the conservatives who are not misled by the far left agendas of groups such as ANSWER (if you even know who they are), those who have invaded deeply into the modern Democratic party..
or join the Republicans who still hold the core values that created this nation so dear.

I'm sorry.. but I will not, and can not ever support stabbing babies in the head and sucking out their brains.
That for me is simply ENOUGH reason to vote Republican as long as they stand for this.

The rest of their beliefs, just happen to be as honorable and true.

(*) For those who are not American.. Abraham Lincoln was our Republican President during our Civil War, he opposed slavery.
The same struggle continues today with the great Republican party at the helm for human rights and justice for all who come into our contact.
The modern Democratic party has been hijacked by leftist extremists in the post 1960s America. They wish to bring socialism to America and the world, and we all know where socialism leads to.
ie. Hitler and Stalin

Frankly put, America has its heart back after years of disgrace, disregard for human rights and tyranny under the Clinton administration.
My conservative brethern and myself are not going anywhere in this country.

And we have all the guns, so good luck rooting us out!

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Reply to kinney

Also, I must add this...

IF President Bush DID lie, THEN-

he would already be impeached and be out of office... BELIEVE ME.

Your absolutely crazy if you think he lied to the American people.
Bad intelligence? Maybe.
Lies? Nope.

It'd be common knowledge and the liberal media would be spouting your "facts of lying" all over the place...

give it up!

Edit- Sitting here I am frankly amazed that you believe what you are saying.
This whole "9/11 Commission" is a charade.
This is an election year and they are searching for bad press.
Think of the stuff you're saying as the same league as the "AWOL Bush" thing you were probably ranting about a month ago... it is baseless and will soon be forgotten by everyone other than the mindless far leftists.
Because it isnt true.
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Reply to kinney

WOW!

Thanks for the entertaining read. I even saved this page to show other people.

I'm not going to spend time arguing with you since that's obviously useless. I would just like to say thanks and give a bit of advice:

Take your head out of your ass, the air is fresher out here. How someone with any level of intelligence, something you obviously have, can be so naive is way beyond me. How can you possibly put so much blind faith into anything?

-'Ma government would nota lie to me, cuase iss all like the constitution or somin, ana Im gonna go get me guns and go shootin y'all for trying to think for ur selfes. An, im a gonna get ma militia buddies too. An we'l biul' a new world ordar wit mr. Bush as the soupreme leader for life, an we'ra gonna kill all them librals an abortin folks an them strange strangers wit their strange belifes, an all the no good lazy inner-city bums an then, we're gonna bomb all them other people who ain't so so enli..enl...eh bright as we are...'

A long long time ago, but I can still remember, how that music used to make me smile... <A HREF="http://www.nexus.hu/zonix/DIGGER.MID" target="_new">Digger rulz</A>Edited by Snorkius on 03/29/04 08:24 AM.

Reply to Snorkius

Ok, find the proof that showed those two trailers were WMD related vehicles. I'll save you some time and just tell you that you won't find it, because the CIA has come out and said they were for either weather balloons or conventional weapons programs! WAKE UP! Here is just one source for you:

<A HREF="http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,977853,00.html" target="_new">http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,977853,00.html</A>

Hey, the Bush administration has repeatedly come out and said Iraq has no WMD's, and had no real WMD programs. Why won't you accept that?

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Lawyerizing the constitution and misinterpreting it until you have it say what you wish is the liberal agenda.

Hey, liberals try to defend civil rights. In many cases they are right, but yes, in some cases they go to far. You are applying your blind hatred to everyone, which is not a good thing. But, I think you just pulled this statement out of your ass anyways? Please back it up with some facts. I bet if the Republicans had their way, the Constituition would be scrapped and replaced with a super-PATRIOT Act.

You do realize that the Republican party of the 1800's is nothing like the Republican party of today, don't you? What was the political group that argued for civil rights in the 1960's, while which group opposed them? Hmmm...

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or join the Republicans who still hold the core values that created this nation so dear.

That is an opinion. Democrats just have different ideas of what the "right" values should be. I personally feel what the Bush administration is doing socially, fiscally, politically, and militarily are extremely damaging to our country.

Here is a question for you, that I would like an honest answer. Do you really feel a $500 billion defecit is good thing that is indicative of Bush having a "stellar record" during his presidency?

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Reply to ksoth

I dont have to prove anything to you.

If you were right, everyone would know it.

You dont hear what you are saying on the news.. your viewpoints arent valid or true.
The media is not mainstream and it would agree with you if you were correct.
I'm not going to sit here and argue with you when most democrats dont even agree with you.

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Democrats just have different ideas of what the "right" values should be.

You said it first.
"Just have different ideas of what the "right" values should be".
NOT what they actually ARE!

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Here is a question for you, that I would like an honest answer. Do you really feel a $500 billion defecit is good thing that is indicative of Bush having a "stellar record" during his presidency?

First I'd like to respond by saying that this would be the first time in my life that a LIBERAL is complaining about OVERSPENDING!!

Second, I dont believe you can put a price on freedom or liberty for the people all around the globe.
So I find it irrelevant to his record.
I DO know that a liberal would overspend, AND overtax!!!!!!
As well as get nothing done.
THATS the difference between my philosophy and yours.

You asked an honest question and you got my honest answer.

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Reply to kinney

wtf are you talking about?

BTW where do you live?

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Ok, this is the last straw. You are the not only filled with hate, you are incredibly stupid. I have given you proof, the administration itself has said so, the media reports so, yet you deny it because it puts cracks in the shiny armor of your beloved saint of a president.

You won't sit here and argue with me because there is nothing to argue, you mental midget. You aren't right about everything, and never will be. Hide behind your hatred of those who are different. Hide behind the lies that justify your beliefs. I visit and post on these forums because it is interesting to get the view points of others from around the country and around the world. But, you have no viewpoints. You contribute hatred and toxic opinions that aren't backed up by facts.

Who the [-peep-] asked about abortion? Was that statement really needed in this discussion? I don't agree with abortion, so what's your [-peep-] point?

You seem to have no concept of what opinions are, and what facts are. I thought those simple definitions were learned in the second grade? Did you even get that far, or did you spend your whole adolescence watching your pa shoot holes in rusty old pickups while picking up empty beer cans he was throwing at your head?

You seem to have no idea what you are saying. You blindly label me as a liberal for the sole reason that I disagree with you about Jesus Christ, uhh, I mean George Bush. Your labelling of others as liberals, as well as your utter contempt for them, seems like just some pathetic defense mechanism, and it makes you look stupider with every bit of nonsense you spout about it.

Yes, liberals overspend and overtax. Oh god, I can't believe the defecits Clinton was running. Oh wait, what's that? There was actually a budget surplus at the end? If he was just another stupid tyrannical liberal, why the f*ck would he allow a surplus and not just spend it all and run even larger defecits? Yeah, overtax. Who was the ass hole who said "READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES!" and then [-peep-] raised taxes? In case you don't know history, it was the your saint's daddy!

You are full of sh!t. You probably always will be too. I know some Republicans. You are not a Republican. You are a [-peep-] hate filled dingbat that doesn't know sh!t, but the most pathetic part is that you think you do.

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Reply to ksoth

Abortion is one of the issues, one of the most relevant in our times.
Its about murder.. about life and death, it DOES matter.
That issue alone makes Democrats reveals the party to be the sick and twisted abhorration they have become.

Your name calling is unnecessary.

I answered your question about the deficit.
Clinton rode the wave from the work Ronald Reagan did in the 80s.
That was where the work was done.
He unchained the economy from people like Jimmy Carter who inhibited us greatly.
Learn about history, and how economics work.

Grow up.

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Reply to kinney

CONGRATULATIONS.

YOUR A NEO-NAZI

how does it feel to be a nazi?

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And the new question is:

Should everybody testify as to the quality of my poop in the Polls forum?

Let's see....the magic 8-ball says.....YES!

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Reply to phial

I'm confused.

I'm actually pro-Israeli and a zionist.

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I'm confused.

I'm actually pro-Israeli and a zionist.

Isreal is Nazi too.

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Reply to alltaken

You've lost it.

I'm amazed at how you anti-American folks have the nerve to state such things and call me the moron..
wow.

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Main Entry: Na·zi
Pronunciation: 'nät-sE, 'nat-
Function: noun
Etymology: German, by shortening & alteration from Nationalsozialist, from national national + Sozialist socialist
1 : a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler

This thread is truly a testament to the anti-semetic beliefs of the Left.
And why liberals are such scum.

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Reply to kinney

Reread my post.

You are a naive idiot: not one single post you have ever written on this forum comes from clear logical thought. You spout propaganda like it's the Lords very own truth. It's not. Liberal, conservative etc. are just pointless labels used by people like you to further petty useless debates when they have nothing of content to say.

Simple really.

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As usual, <A HREF="http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2004/032204.asp" target="_new"> Whitehouse.org </A> had something to say about recent events.

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You say my naming calling is unnecessary, but yours is perfectly okay? Yeah, that makes sense. I'd call you a hypocrite, but I'm sure you don't know what that means.

And now you say the left is anti-semetic?!? It's astounding, just astounding. What group was criticizing "The Passion..." because of the supposed anti-semitism in it? Liberals! What group had a Jew running for vice president and actually voted for him more than conservatives voted for Bush? Liberals! And who do you always hear complaining about the Jews for killing Jesus? The Christian Right! You completely make sh!t up for the sole purpose to spew hate and make you look right, when in fact you couldn't be more wrong. You are a pathetic, sad little man that obviously has no original thought. You seem to just regurgitate crap that you hear or read from others, and maybe give it a little extra insanity from the hate that feeds your life.

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Reply to ksoth

be quiet you Anti-systematic Nazi (meaning you have no logic )

you realise i call you a Nazi because you are german, or because you are belonging to a political party which happened to be lead by hitler and was against jews

i call you a nazi because you are american, you belong to a political party which happens to be lead by bush, and is against arabs. (note that arabs are semites too, hence you ARE infact anti sematic)

You are a Nazi in the true underlying sence of the word, not the pedantic definitions of it in the dictionary, but the emotion, the feeling, the hatred, and the wish for extermination. this is what you have. you want all arabs to be dead, you want the empire of George Bush to take over the world.

well you are a Nazi sorry. you gonna have to face it some day.

P.s. don't blame liberals for me, don't say they have anything to do with me, i am not a liberal at all. i make the coments on my own, as an individual

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Reply to alltaken

Individual?

What's that? Can you put a label on that? You see, I'm kind of lost if there is no clear-cut black and white label. How can I direct my hate towards you if you are'nt defined in the dictionary! Don't confuse me!!!

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Reply to Snorkius

You are strange.
Republicans arent against Arabs, they are against terrorist elements.
We'd target civilians on purpose if we were against Arabs.

Much like how they target our civilians.

We target military installations.
They target American civilians.
Huge difference.

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Reply to kinney

You did the majority of the name calling here. I target liberals, you in turn target me.

Do you need proof that much of the Left is anti-semetic?
I've heard them say it myself.

I dont see how anyone could not be in support of Israel and their right to exist.
The radical Islamic terrorists are definitely the ones doing wrong in the world, the majority of it by far.
They target civilians.
Israel and the USA target military installations.

To be against assisting Israel is utter insanity.
Allowing such murderous behavior be done by the terrorists is only encouraging it.
You need to wake up.

The Passion was attacked by the left because it portrayed Christianity in a good light.. they were looking for anything to smear it.

BTW your name calling means nothing and no one is impressed.

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Reply to kinney

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You are a naive idiot:

Why do liberals always resort to smearing peoples character?

Oh wait, I forgot. You dont like labels because being called a liberal is a dirty word, and rightfully so.

Enjoy whatever country you live in.
Its nice to see you pay so much attention to ours, which in effect is you admitting to our supremacy and relevancy in the world.
Thanks!

Trust me, no one cares about your nation or where you are from.

Keep pretending your opinions on OUR government mean anything at all.
Enjoy being miserable!

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Reply to kinney

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Why do liberals always resort to smearing peoples character?

kinney do you realise how funny this is coming from you?

i find it to be one of the funniest things all day.

Alltaken

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Reply to alltaken

I didnt try to smear u alltaken..

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Reply to kinney

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-'Ma government would nota lie to me, cuase iss all like the constitution or somin, ana Im gonna go get me guns and go shootin y'all for trying to think for ur selfes. An, im a gonna get ma militia buddies too. An we'l biul' a new world ordar wit mr. Bush as the soupreme leader for life, an we'ra gonna kill all them librals an abortin folks an them strange strangers wit their strange belifes, an all the no good lazy inner-city bums an then, we're gonna bomb all them other people who ain't so enlightened as we are...'

O man, you ruined that by spelling "enlightened" correctly.

Should have been something like:
"..other people who ain't so enli..enl...eh bright as we are..."

BigMac

<A HREF="http://www.p3int.com/product_center_NWO_The_Story.asp" target="_new">New World Order</A>Edited by BigMac on 03/29/04 09:14 AM.

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Ah, yet another thread where the socialist bunch around here are stuck to quabbling over the scraps of their defeats.

Defeated by themselves by resorting to senseless claims of myself and ISRAEL as being "nazi". In any sense of the word... give me a break you silly b*stards.
My grandfather fought the nazis. The Jews were murdered by them.
It takes a mentally deficient group of people to start calling Americans and Israeli's "nazis"... all I can respond is wow, what a bunch of low-life scoundrels to even utter this.
No respect for anything not life nor death of 6 million Jews.
You people disgust me. You wonder why people rip into liberals.
Call yourselves what you will, you are sided with those that call themselves "liberals" in this nation.
Oh, AND you ARE speaking of AMERICAN issues.. and since I'm probably the only one in this thread that is an American citizen I have the right to tell you what you would be here in THIS nation... yes, the one that you are taking sides on issues about!!!

If you dont want an American label then dont pretend to know about American issues.. foreigners!
STICK TO YOUR MISERABLE QUASI-SOCIALIST EUROPEAN NATIONS, OR WHEREVER THE HELL YOUR FROM!

You dont have to be liberals, you are individual idiots if you prefer!

Defeated upon the issues- now the mainly NON-American, foreign posters of this forum continue to attempt to understand American culture and thought. Defeated in issues that are not even THEIRS!
Comedy.
The supposed Americans posting here resorted to anger as usual.
I know those are real American liberals, they are truly vile, hate-filled people.. I live with them everyday in my city.
Funny and satisfying to find that Leftists around the globe are also frustrated, miserable welps just like here!

Presenting their "facts" which are nothing more than propaganda.
Backed up by the mobbing of my personal character.
Impressive.

One word: weak.
Business as usual for this crew.

And I'm out. I'll whoop you guys again later.

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Reply to kinney

Oops, I did'nt notice.

I'll Change it right away.

Thanks!

A long long time ago, but I can still remember, how that music used to make me smile... <A HREF="http://www.nexus.hu/zonix/DIGGER.MID" target="_new">Digger rulz</A>Edited by Snorkius on 03/29/04 08:26 AM.

Reply to Snorkius

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If you dont want an American label then dont pretend to know about American issues.. foreigners!
STICK TO YOUR MISERABLE QUASI-SOCIALIST EUROPEAN NATIONS, OR WHEREVER THE HELL YOUR FROM!

Maybe you want to do a little research before labelling every country in a continent, because you sure as hell got your facts wrong on this occasion.

"If Little Red Riding Hood shows up with a bazooka and a bad attitude, I expect you to chin the bitch." - Sean Pertwee

Reply to RobD

Nazi the way Alltaken used it had nothing to do with jews and hitler.

Just like when you use the word 'brutal' it has nothing to do with Ceasar and Brutus. Lots of examples like that through out history.

Ever read a chinese fable about a dragon? I don't remember it exactly but there was a dragon which villagers tried to kill. No one ever came back because as soon as they killed it, they were captured by it's treasure and became the dragon in turn.

The same way, just because you're from Israel, does'nt mean you can't be a 'nazi'.

I spent half my life in the US. I think I know about americans and their issues. Plus I know about the other side of the world, something you have, apparently, no idea about.

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Reply to Snorkius

I know what he meant.
Its just not right to apply that term, in any sense, to a Jew. Or the Americans, who fought and died by the thousands to stop them. Thats immaturity.

As far as the rest of the world.
The rest of the world makes no difference.

The topic here was President Bush and his administration, as well as the 9/11 attacks on our ground.
Enlighten me how this has to do with the other side of the world you know so much about sir.

edit to add-
You and the rest of the world were made irrelevant in this entire argument when President Bush put a huge f*cking boot in the UN's a$$.

Bowing down to some government faction to maintain our liberty is NOT the way we Americans work.
You do not understand that and thus, enough proof I need to know you are not American.
You do not understand us.
So you mock us and our President.

We arent going anywhere. We're more technically advanced, wealthier and more powerful than you.
You cant match the power that capitalism brings, socialist welps.

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Now he's a liberal.Edited by kinney on 03/29/04 05:41 AM.

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