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February 9, 2013 1:53:43 AM

I would appreciate input on any problems you might see, anywhere I could save money or any alternate recommendations. I am building a new system because my 4 year old laptop just won't do. I mainly use it for a few games, surfing the internet, movies, and excel. My goal is $800 for the build.

What I have so far is:

Case: Corsair Carbide 400R
Hard Drive: Western Digital Black 500GB 7200RPM, Sata 6Gb/s, 64mb cache
Video Card: Sapphire 1GB 128big GDDR5 Radeon HD 7770 PCI Express 3.0 x16
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80Plus Bronze Modular Device
Motherboard: Asus P8z77-v LGA 1155 Intel z77 with HDMI,SATA III, USB 3.0
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 1699 (came free with Motherboard)
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570k IvyBridge 3.4Ghz
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H60 Liquid CPU cooler
Optical Drive: LG Blu-ray Combo Drive, Sata Model

Thank you for all your help!

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February 9, 2013 6:45:20 AM

power supply is way overkill, save money on that and get an hd 7850.
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February 9, 2013 11:01:20 PM

Okay, I have made a few changes to the build. Feedback of any kind would be greatly appreciated. Again my price range is ~$800. Thank you all very much.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Cvn9
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Cvn9/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Cvn9/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LE ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($0.00 @ Newegg; comes with motherboard)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Networking: Rosewill RNX-N300X PCI Wireless Adapter ($24.00 @ Newegg)
Total after Rebates: $823.50
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

I changed most everything to Newegg, but will buy from somewhere else as long as they can ship and are reputable.
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February 9, 2013 11:03:21 PM

Augray37 said:
power supply is way overkill, save money on that and get an hd 7850.


I'd Love to get an HD 7850, but I'm not sure where else I can cut enough costs to get it. Any ideas? I would like to pull the trigger and order everything tonight or tomorrow so responses are VERY welcome!
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February 10, 2013 12:08:03 AM

If you're going to be gaming on high end games i would recommend either stretching your budget or skimping something for an hd 7850. You will see much better preformance
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February 10, 2013 12:13:33 AM

mkeonpc said:
If you're going to be gaming on high end games i would recommend either stretching your budget or skimping something for an hd 7850. You will see much better preformance


I'm not going to be doing too much high end gaming; the most demanding game I play is Diablo 3 on a 28" 1080p HDTV plugged up through HDMI.
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February 10, 2013 12:38:57 AM

the thinking behind getting an hd 7850 isn't so much that you'll be able to dominate games now, but the fact that it's a little more future proof than an hd 7770 is.
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February 10, 2013 12:46:38 AM

Augray37 said:
the thinking behind getting an hd 7850 isn't so much that you'll be able to dominate games now, but the fact that it's a little more future proof than an hd 7770 is.


So if i'm just a casual PC gamer (personally prefer the ps3) sticking with the radeon hd 7770 to play the few pc only games such as Diablo 3 on high setting will work?
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February 10, 2013 1:08:26 AM

shields1987 said:
I would appreciate input on any problems you might see, anywhere I could save money or any alternate recommendations. I am building a new system because my 4 year old laptop just won't do. I mainly use it for a few games, surfing the internet, movies, and excel. My goal is $800 for the build.

What I have so far is:

Case: Corsair Carbide 400R
Hard Drive: Western Digital Black 500GB 7200RPM, Sata 6Gb/s, 64mb cache
Video Card: Sapphire 1GB 128big GDDR5 Radeon HD 7770 PCI Express 3.0 x16
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80Plus Bronze Modular Device
Motherboard: Asus P8z77-v LGA 1155 Intel z77 with HDMI,SATA III, USB 3.0
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 1699 (came free with Motherboard)
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570k IvyBridge 3.4Ghz
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H60 Liquid CPU cooler
Optical Drive: LG Blu-ray Combo Drive, Sata Model

Thank you for all your help!


This is terrible. All of it, just terrible. We should begin with the Overpriced case with bad cooling, go with better for a clean look and 4 fans.

HDD is small and discontinued this is better

GPU is bad get this

PSU is bad get that

MOB is badly overpriced and looks even worse zat

Memory to match mobo Corsair nom nom

This CPU is fine I agree with you

h60 is dumb, I don't know why they sell them stop it plz. Hyper 212 will give you a 4500mhz oc while keeping you plenty cool.

This Optical has spectacular reviews and a nice logo

Total Price: $824.92 before the +40 bucks in rebates. I would mail rebates in, whore myself out for 60 bucks and buy an SSD bootable drive for icing on the proverbial cake.

What's been fixed? TL;DR version, everything.

Details:

Good case with proper cooling pre-installed combined with a nice finish, a bigger 1TB HDD 7200rpm/64MB Cache/Good Success Rating(at the same price I presume), MSI 7850 2 fan model which is voltage unlocked and ready to be cranked up in afterburner, downsized psu to 500W but can be upped to a 600-750W corsair for 20-40 bucks if you so feel the need(you don't need to), better looking/functioning motherboard at a better price, better ram(Insert Corsair Here) that matches that better motherboard, and finally an equivalent cooler for the 4000-4500 frequency range. MSI motherboards come with OC genie which is marketed toward casual builders. The bios in MSI boards make it extremely easy/stable to go 4-4500mhz on the overclock with 3 clicks if you are someone that is iffy about OC, it'd be the board for you even IF the price wasn't right. Heed these changes and you'll have a much nicer system so saith me.
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February 10, 2013 2:16:16 AM

Praxeology said:
This is terrible. All of it, just terrible. We should begin with the Overpriced case with bad cooling, go with better for a clean look and 4 fans.

HDD is small and discontinued this is better

GPU is bad get this

PSU is bad get that

MOB is badly overpriced and looks even worse zat

Memory to match mobo Corsair nom nom

This CPU is fine I agree with you

h60 is dumb, I don't know why they sell them stop it plz. Hyper 212 will give you a 4500mhz oc while keeping you plenty cool.

This Optical has spectacular reviews and a nice logo

Total Price: $824.92 before the +40 bucks in rebates. I would mail rebates in, whore myself out for 60 bucks and buy an SSD bootable drive for icing on the proverbial cake.

What's been fixed? TL;DR version, everything.

Details:

Good case with proper cooling pre-installed combined with a nice finish, a bigger 1TB HDD 7200rpm/64MB Cache/Good Success Rating(at the same price I presume), MSI 7850 2 fan model which is voltage unlocked and ready to be cranked up in afterburner, downsized psu to 500W but can be upped to a 600-750W corsair for 20-40 bucks if you so feel the need(you don't need to), better looking/functioning motherboard at a better price, better ram(Insert Corsair Here) that matches that better motherboard, and finally an equivalent cooler for the 4000-4500 frequency range. MSI motherboards come with OC genie which is marketed toward casual builders. The bios in MSI boards make it extremely easy/stable to go 4-4500mhz on the overclock with 3 clicks if you are someone that is iffy about OC, it'd be the board for you even IF the price wasn't right. Heed these changes and you'll have a much nicer system so saith me.


couldn't stand to just politely give your alternatives could you?
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February 10, 2013 2:22:38 AM

I love your choices and thank you very much for your input! I wish I could afford to do that, but It's almost $1,000 which I am not willing to spend at the time.

Case: 69.99
Optical Drive: 19.99
Hard Drive: 79.99
CPU: 214.99
CPU Cooler: 34.99
Motherboard: 109.99
Power Supply: 59.99
Graphics Card: 219.99
PCI Wireless Adapter: 24.99
Memory: ~50.00
OS Windows 7: 99.99
Shipping: 14.83
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Sub Total: $999.73
- $45 in Rebates
TOTAL: $954.73

If you scroll up to the 4th post,it will show what I had changed a lot of stuff too. I will sub out my case, motherboard, optical drive, HD, memory and power supply with yours. which would bring the overall total to $811.90. But I'm not sure where else to try and save to get a better graphics card than the 7770. Any advice?



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February 10, 2013 2:32:33 AM

shields1987 said:
I love your choices and thank you very much for your input! I wish I could afford to do that, but It's almost $1,000 which I am not willing to spend at the time.

Case: 69.99
Optical Drive: 19.99
Hard Drive: 79.99
CPU: 214.99
CPU Cooler: 34.99
Motherboard: 109.99
Power Supply: 59.99
Graphics Card: 219.99
PCI Wireless Adapter: 24.99
Memory: ~50.00
OS Windows 7: 99.99
Shipping: 14.83
--------------------------------------
Sub Total: $999.73
- $45 in Rebates
TOTAL: $954.73

If you scroll up to the 4th post,it will show what I had changed a lot of stuff too. I will sub out my case, motherboard, optical drive, HD, memory and power supply with yours. which would bring the overall total to $811.90. But I'm not sure where else to try and save to get a better graphics card than the 7770. Any advice?


Ya you're stuck. It can't be brought down anymore for a 7850 because windows and the wireless adapter eat it away. I would splurge a bit for Best 7770 and try be content(It has 2GB of Vram so you will, with some work, be able to overclock to atleast a stock 7850 if not better than a stock 7850). Its a solid build if you configure it right. With this 7770 you can easily overclock it to a 7850 and even at stock current games will run just as well, so don't fret about it. The only difference is in future fps but in that case, just upgrade the card if you need to xD. You're platform is solid.

From 219.99 to 159.99 with 20$ Rebate making total price 80 dollars cheaper before rebate = $920 before rebates, including shipping. And if you want a cheaper 7770 go with MSI
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February 10, 2013 2:49:07 AM

if ur a collage student or know someone in collage u can most likely find windows 7 for free save u 100 bucks
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February 10, 2013 3:25:38 AM

locke9342 said:
if ur a collage student or know someone in collage u can most likely find windows 7 for free save u 100 bucks


I'm just a few years out, but unfortunatly I do not know anyone in college anymore. Anything else you would recommend?
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February 10, 2013 3:57:37 PM

drop the wireless adapter and buy a really long cord
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February 10, 2013 4:12:04 PM

that's just not feasible with the location of the router, but I could atleast upgrade the video card to the 650TI. The only way I see it is if someone has an additional copy of windows 7 they would like to sell cheap... then I could upgrade the video card to the 7850
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February 10, 2013 4:28:38 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CDH4
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CDH4/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CDH4/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $769.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-10 13:24 EST-0500)

Ok a 7770 will run Diablo fine but the problem is that in the future, more demanding games will come out that you may want to play and then it will start to struggle. I had to drop the i5-3570k and go for a locked processor with this build so you cannot overclock, which I assume you were planning on doing. The build is actually right around $800 because those microcenter deals are in-store only.
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February 10, 2013 4:49:16 PM

shields1987 said:
Okay, I have made a few changes to the build. Feedback of any kind would be greatly appreciated. Again my price range is ~$800. Thank you all very much.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Cvn9
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Cvn9/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Cvn9/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LE ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($0.00 @ Newegg; comes with motherboard)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Networking: Rosewill RNX-N300X PCI Wireless Adapter ($24.00 @ Newegg)
Total after Rebates: $823.50
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

I changed most everything to Newegg, but will buy from somewhere else as long as they can ship and are reputable.


If you really want to keep that 3570k, you can cut costs from the case (Corsair 200r) and power supply (you don't need 650w for a 7850/7770 500W is enough if it is good quality). It's your call on the blue ray reader; I'd personally never use it. You can also just go for the blue instead of black version of the HDD. With those cuts, you can get a 7850, I believe. Also, if you live near a Microcenter you can save money on the processor there.

The problem I see with the build above is that you have an unlocked processor, Z77 motherboard, but no aftermarket cooler? How would you go about overclocking with the stock cooler?
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February 10, 2013 8:18:26 PM

u could try using linux instead of 7 because its free and steam beta is out
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