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February 9, 2013 6:33:47 AM

Finished picking out parts. Cheap budget computer for my mother to stream Korean Soap Operas.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Cndu / http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Cndu/benchmarks/c

Video Card: Onboard
Case: Some Old Case
Optical Drive: Random Drive
Operating System: Friends got many

Price for me including shipping
$465 before mail in rebates.

My questions are: Are these items compatible. Do you think that it is futureproof/worth my money. Am I forgetting something? Could something be downgraded and not change any performance due to the use of the computer? Will she love me as a son for doing this?

This is not for any serious anything really, her computer right now just sucks.

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February 9, 2013 7:09:57 AM

Absolute budget build that will perform better and for cheaper
CPU is about the same due to optimizations
You do not need a extra cooler, just use the bundled one since you are not overclocking
This will have way better graphics which will effect page load and rendering times
Getting 1600mhz ram will give noticeable gains for very little cost
Getting a SSD is a nice touch as long as she doesn't save a lot of files, otherwise just get a 7200rpm 500GB HDD

If you order from NCIX.COM, they will price match so you can get everything from 1 vendor adn they have stores in Toronto and Vancouver area for pickup

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A8-3870K 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.81 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus F1A55-M LE R2.0 Micro ATX FM1 Motherboard ($45.12 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($27.04 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Sandisk 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $286.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-09 04:07 EST-0500)

Unless you can't spend the extra $10 get 8GB of ram

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A8-3870K 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.81 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus F1A55-M LE R2.0 Micro ATX FM1 Motherboard ($45.12 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.80 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Sandisk 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $299.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-09 04:10 EST-0500)

Using this board will get you SATA 6gb/s to make full use of the SSD

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A8-3870K 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.81 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-A75M-S2V Micro ATX FM1 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.80 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Sandisk 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $304.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-09 04:16 EST-0500)


If you really want to grab a cooler, this is a good cheap one and will let you OC decently, its actually onsale for $7 after MIR at NCIX

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-cpu-cooler-cnps5...

Good HDD's to get at your price point (though the 1tb/1.5tb/2tb offer more space for only a bit more cash)
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-d...
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/hitachi-internal-hard-d...

I recently built this myself and the temps are fine and its quiet on the stock cooler
The 7200rpm 2TB from seagate is actually pretty snappy
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/b/zNA
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February 9, 2013 7:43:09 AM

Is the A8 better than 965? And you are saying I can omit the Evo 212?

Well I am only going to install windows 7 and programs she uses often. She will not know to install different programs into the SSD or the HDD.
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February 9, 2013 7:54:07 AM

well in that case the 64GB SSD will be enough
yes you can omit the 212 evo as it is uncessary and since you're not overclocking (and the cnpsx5 will do fine if you're worrid about non-overclocking heat due to a stuffy case)


The A8 has similar/slightly weaker CPU performance but will have way better Gpu acceration to load web pages, videos, desktop in general, etc way faster while costing about the same
Motherboard integrated video is slow even for non gaming uses

getting the latest gen a8 5600k for $10 more will get more cpu and more gpu power butfor streaming it is unnecessary
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February 9, 2013 7:58:42 AM

stickmansam said:
well in that case the 64GB SSD will be enough

The A8 has similar/slightly weaker CPU performance but will have way better Gpu acceration to load web pages, videos, desktop in general, etc way faster while costing about the same
Motherboard integrated video is slow even for non gaming uses

getting the latest gen a8 5600k for $10 more will get more cpu and more gpu power butfor streaming it is unnecessary


Sorry but could you explain a APU simply?
I was under the impression that if you have a certain APU, it accelerates a certain GPU and only that GPU like it was made for it. I'm assuming I'm wrong now. You think that if I got the A8 it would be sufficient instead of getting an actual GPU? Or should I say, would getting an actual GPU be faster than if I had a A8?
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February 9, 2013 4:12:29 PM

The AMD APU's just basically have a strong graphics chip integrated into the CPU die

The A8 Llano has basically a Phenom II x 4 CPU combined with a 6570 combined onto one die

So you basically get the GPU part for free
For just basic web browsing and video streaming, the APU will do just fine and better than Intel's HD2500 [low end comparable price graphics] (grabbing the HD4000 which is competitive, will bump costs about $35 for no gain) and any motherboard intergrated solution


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Fusion

The APU i am suggesting is a bit faster than the one in this

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-a8-3850-llano,2...

You can grab the chip from the review and put the money towards the ram
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad3850wngxbox
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February 10, 2013 4:54:41 AM

stickmansam said:
The AMD APU's just basically have a strong graphics chip integrated into the CPU die

The A8 Llano has basically a Phenom II x 4 CPU combined with a 6570 combined onto one die

So you basically get the GPU part for free
For just basic web browsing and video streaming, the APU will do just fine and better than Intel's HD2500 [low end comparable price graphics] (grabbing the HD4000 which is competitive, will bump costs about $35 for no gain) and any motherboard intergrated solution


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Fusion

The APU i am suggesting is a bit faster than the one in this

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-a8-3850-llano,2...

You can grab the chip from the review and put the money towards the ram
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad3850wngxbox


That makes as much sense as a Wookie living on Endor. It actually makes a bit of sense but I wanted to say that. So how the heck does a processor chip have a GPU in it? Does it just improve the Mobo's GPU? What if I put an APU into my gaming rig which already has a GPU, would my computer just not use the APU and just continue using the GPU?
Just a really weird and new concept to me. A processor with graphics.
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February 10, 2013 5:03:03 AM

Well it basically moves the GPU off the motherboard and into the CPU to reduce latency and make low end upgrades easier without having to add in a dedicated gpu
Its like how intel cpu's have graphics on them too, just that the intel version is considerably overpriced

It doesn't actually accelerate anything yet but AMD plans to move FPU tasks from the CPU to the GPU in the future

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review
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February 10, 2013 5:11:19 AM

Ok then. I switched processors to the AMD A8-5600K. Is this going to change compatibility for the Mobo, or anything?
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February 10, 2013 5:00:18 PM

it will be faster (wibdows boot, webpage load(dependin on your internet speed) broswer load) but probably not noticable over sata 3gb/s
The usb3 is worth getting if you have usb3 devices or will get them soon
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February 10, 2013 9:10:14 PM

yes it looks all good
you can stick with 1333mhz ram since you're not gaming
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February 10, 2013 9:18:52 PM

stickmansam said:
yes it looks all good
you can stick with 1333mhz ram since you're not gaming


That was the cheapest 8gbs of ram I could find.
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February 10, 2013 9:24:26 PM

bad wording on my part but i meant you should just stick with the 8gb set you chose
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February 10, 2013 11:28:55 PM

It was 4gb
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February 10, 2013 11:36:43 PM

Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory

Pulled it right from you pcpartpicker link
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February 11, 2013 12:17:46 AM

Oh yea, that went up in price like 20$
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February 11, 2013 12:50:49 AM

Get this then

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A8-5600K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($105.46 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($57.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($40.12 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Sandisk 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $323.55
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-10 21:50 EST-0500)
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February 11, 2013 9:27:34 AM

Thats the same list lol. I am ordering now.

Thanks alot Stick
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February 11, 2013 9:27:47 AM

Best answer selected by kolkim.
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February 11, 2013 5:19:56 PM

No problem :) 
Have fun building :D 
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February 18, 2013 12:19:29 AM

Hey, so for the heat sink my motherboard came with, do I need to get extra goop? I forget what it's called but the heat sink doesn't come with a tube, only a little bit stuck onto the heat sink.
I have a little bit of goop from when I was fiddling with my xbox 360 but it's 'designed' for xbox if that makes a difference or if it's not a good quality.
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February 18, 2013 12:53:27 AM

The pre applied stuff is probably as good as if not better than the xbox360 stuff IMO

Using the stuff that comes with it will be more than fine since you're not over clocking
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