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February 10, 2013 1:51:03 AM

Parts selected, buying the Video Card, Heatsink, and BD Drive in the future.

Parts bought: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hic7


CASE:
AZZA Solano 1000R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOTHERBOARD:
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

POWER SUPPLY:
CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PROCESSOR:
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU HEAT SINK*:
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

VIDEO CARD:
GeForce GTX 660
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM:
CORSAIR Vengeance (2x 8GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

WIRELESS ADAPTER:
TP-LINK TL-WDN4800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD:
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 (1TB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD DRIVE:
SAMSUNG Model SH-224BB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS:
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (OEM)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I hope for some suggestions concerning my PC Build since I have a few months until I can build it. One thing I'm worried about in particular is whether or not the power supply will hold or whether or not I'll need a different one. The power supply runs at 90% efficiency so it should be enough but I don't know how much power I'll be using up. Not many parts seem to say how much power they'll use up so it's hard to calculate it. In the future I will be adding another video card and more RAM of the same brand so I hope that anyone who is considerate enough to calculate the power used will take that into consideration.

I'm not new to computers but I'm far from being considered an expert since this is my first time building a PC from scratch rather than taking apart old XP PCs and mixing them together. I didn't even know much about video cards until a year ago when my friend gave me his old 7600GT so I've got a lot to learn and I'm hoping that some of you are willing to share a little bit of your time and knowledge so that I don't end up with a PC I can't fit together.

Some more information since I didn't read the "How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice" thread before asking.

I'm upgrading since I want to play PC games but my current PC is holding me back and I can't afford more than 1300.

I'll be building this PC some time before August, 2013.

My price range is $1300 without any kind of external equipment.

I would like to stick to Newegg if possible since I'll be getting all of my parts at once and want them all on a warranty.

I won't stray from Intel or NVIDIA and I want a video card with at least 2GB and supports DirectX 11.

I'm currently using my TV as a monitor so the resolution will be 1920 x 1080 or higher if my TV can support it.

*I'm extremely interested in swapping out this heatsink but I don't know what to replace it with. I've heard bad things about it and wouldn't mind increasing my price limit to $1350 for a better heatsink. I'm looking at the Noctua NH-D14 but it looks weird and I'm not sure how it works.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Please read this entire comment before responding so that you may know my exact intentions and respond more accurately.

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a b U Graphics card
February 10, 2013 3:09:05 AM

Get the 7870, it's stronger and comes with free games. you don't need 16 gb ram, and you can get 16 for way cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You can get a way cheaper wireless card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I don't think you need a 450mbps wireless card.
All you need is windows 7 home premium
You could get this psu and be fine
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
it will supply the same amount of power, but it won't be as efficient. Now that $130 have been saved, you can get a 7970. I know you said you won't stray from nvidia, but you have to realize, the last time you built a pc ati was a different company. AMD cards now have good drivers and their cards have excellent price per performance. This card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
is only 1% weaker than a 680, and almost $100 cheaper. There is no way you can do better than that. The heatsink you have is very good, especially for the price. Also, the time you are going to buy this is a month before Q4, the time the next gen of cards is being released, so that is something to consider.




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February 10, 2013 3:23:46 AM

As for the 450 Mb/s wireless card, that's only because I'm getting a new router from my ISP this year and it should be 450 Mb/s since my current one is 300 Mb/s and it's a few years old. I have a USB adapter that's better than that and only half a year old but I want one that is hard-wired into the computer although that may change in the future. I want the RAM as I'll be adding another 16 GB later on since I plan on upgrading this PC to the maximum it can go until I can afford a new PC and then give this PC to my brother.

You're right about Q4 coming up soon. Maybe some of these parts will be cheaper then.

I want to go cheap now but with enough quality parts to be able to upgrade it without much hassle.
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a b U Graphics card
February 10, 2013 3:34:35 AM

All of the parts that I recommended are high quality. I think you are talking about the psu, it is just as reliable as yours, but it won't be quite as power efficient. Is your actual internet speed that fast though? If so, tell me the internet company you are using! You don't need more than 8gb for games. Honestly most game won't even go over to 4gb, so you will be fine for a while with 8. If you want to keep your build for 2 years, you will probably only need to 16 when you upgrade the rest of your pc. Also that 660 probably wouldn't be able to run on all games on high for two years. With a 7970, you may be able to. Also, I am recommending parts, for their value right now. When you are getting your build in possibly August, every part may be different.
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February 10, 2013 3:41:28 AM

IMO the 7870 LE is where the real value is. You will be getting a 7900 series card for the price of a 7870 :) .
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February 10, 2013 11:10:45 PM

lt_dan_zsu said:
All of the parts that I recommended are high quality. I think you are talking about the psu, it is just as reliable as yours, but it won't be quite as power efficient. Is your actual internet speed that fast though? If so, tell me the internet company you are using! You don't need more than 8gb for games. Honestly most game won't even go over to 4gb, so you will be fine for a while with 8. If you want to keep your build for 2 years, you will probably only need to 16 when you upgrade the rest of your pc. Also that 660 probably wouldn't be able to run on all games on high for two years. With a 7970, you may be able to. Also, I am recommending parts, for their value right now. When you are getting your build in possibly August, every part may be different.


If the price of the 7970 goes down then it's definitely a possibility that I'd buy it. Assuming it has Crossfire enabled since I plan on using a dual-card system in the future. I plan on getting the 16 GB now so that if I really do start animation like I've been wanting to for years then it would help me out a bit more. Probably should have mentioned that in the first post but I've been feeling a bit ill so my mind is in a state of confusion right now. I'll be creating a few builds and finding out which build would be best. I plan on updating it every day so after Q4 then I'll likely do a major overhaul on the design.

About the heatsink, I'll probably go with the Cooler Master one since I would also have that side fan on my case. I don't think that I'll have to remove it with my current setup but the other heatsink would require it. Wish I could have the GTX 690 but that's out of my price range.

As for the internet, I can't get full speed due to using a USB adapter for my internet but according to my ISP I should get that speed. It's Verizon Fios and it's called the fastest in the US for a reason. Costs a pretty penny though. I have some slight issues since my router seems to only be able to hold one wireless signal properly when it used to work for half a dozen. Actually, the most I've had was 5 but they were all downloading at their maximum. Some at 2.2 MB/s while others maxed out at 600 MB/s since they were older PCs.


Now, again with the video card. At first I was worried when I saw some reviews of one of the video cards that I was looking at. Either the 7970 or 7870, not sure which. However, I found the MYST Edition which is pretty nice looking. I've added that to my second PC build. Don't really need to build only one computer when I can build multiple and then choose from the best on Newegg.

Using your suggestion I have cut the cost $80 but lost 8 GB of RAM and about 10-20% of efficiency to the Power Supply. It's not a bad trade-off but I'll figure out in the end if it's worth it. I'll likely go with the 16 GB of RAM so I don't have to replace any cards later on but only if it gets cheaper. For now I'm saving it as an alternative build in my wish list.
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February 10, 2013 11:13:22 PM

blake1243 said:
IMO the 7870 LE is where the real value is. You will be getting a 7900 series card for the price of a 7870 :) .



It seems like the most stable of 7870s so I'll add it to the list for my alternate Gaming PC.
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February 10, 2013 11:58:08 PM

A little update. On the bottom on this page there's a compatibility error and I need to know if it's something to worry about.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CJBf
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a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 12:15:13 AM

That psu is only 3-5% less efficient at most. For 7970, I would look into getting the vapor-x edition. That isn't a compatibility issue by the way. It's just saying that you won't be able to use the usb 3.0 header with your case.
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February 11, 2013 12:24:31 AM

lol a $1200 gaming pc that only has GTX 660.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.72 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($107.95 @ Mac Connection)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Tempest 410 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1167.54
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-10 21:23 EST-0500)

Honestly, a $50 wireless adapter sounds like its comming from best buy lol. My $10 edimax usb adapter works wonders.
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a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 1:16:14 AM

blake1243 said:
lol a $1200 gaming pc that only has GTX 660.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.72 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($107.95 @ Mac Connection)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Tempest 410 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1167.54
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-10 21:23 EST-0500)

Honestly, a $50 wireless adapter sounds like its comming from best buy lol. My $10 edimax usb adapter works
wonders.

If you don't care about crossfire, this build is perfect. I would say a 600w psu is a better option though.
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February 11, 2013 2:45:51 AM

lt_dan_zsu said:
If you don't care about crossfire, this build is perfect. I would say a 600w psu is a better option though.


Yeah, but Crossfire/SLI is important to me. Why get a $400 card with 3GB when I can get two 2GB cards for $230 each with SLI or Crossfire? They have the same OpenGL and DirectX support and will last just as long but be 1.33 times the power and if one of them gets fried then at least I won't have lost them both.
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February 11, 2013 2:59:35 AM

Well, I found a bit more to look at and it seems as if I'm switching to a Radeon since it's good looking so far yet I need to do a bit more research to be certain. Hell, I have 5 months but can't really wait because I'm extremely excited by the idea of building my own PC. I've been wanting to do this for a while now.
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February 11, 2013 9:21:15 AM

Junoh315 said:
Yeah, but Crossfire/SLI is important to me. Why get a $400 card with 3GB when I can get two 2GB cards for $230 each with SLI or Crossfire? They have the same OpenGL and DirectX support and will last just as long but be 1.33 times the power and if one of them gets fried then at least I won't have lost them both.

The one card solution is always better with drivers etc. Also, crossfire doesn't work like that, if you crossfire 2 2gb cards then you will still only have 2gb.
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February 12, 2013 9:00:56 AM

You could crossfire 7950's.
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February 25, 2013 1:16:30 PM

According to benchmarks, you almost get as much power as the GTX 690 when you SLI 670s. That's why I'm going to get a GTX 670 since they're good enough for what I want to use them for. I'll get one at a time.

My new build is a bit more but it is better in a lot of ways. I don't want an SSD, I've decided that it's not worth the extra time saved booting up Windows 7. Especially since I don't want to lose all of my data. I've upgraded to the i7 since I'll be using this PC for just about everything. I plan on designing games in the future so I'll want a PC that can handle making small games. I've given this build a lot of thought but still would like some feedback.

While I'm currently only using my HDTV as a monitor, I'll be upgrading to a dual-monitor setup later on. The larger HDD and all other parts that I've modified in my build all compliment the fact that I have always wanted to make games. I figure that it's about time that I make a PC capable of helping me fulfill my dream.

While I loved the Azza Solano 1000R, the lack of USB 3.0 in the front may have inhibited the use of a drawing pad.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FTpW
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March 3, 2013 7:39:41 PM

Okay, I have finally ordered the parts for it after deciding to get it while it's cheap. I'll get a heatsink, Blu-Ray Drive, and video card in the future but for now, this is my PC.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hic7

I'll be using my Mom's Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) so I don't need to buy a copy.
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