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Is an upgrade from a 560 to a 660ti worth it or do i wait

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December 27, 2012 3:04:15 PM

Hi Guys and girls.

Would it be worth upgrading form a 560 2gb to a 660ti 2gb "what would be noticable" or do i wait for amd 8xxx or nvidias 7xx, budget not really an issue unless wife finds out. but was really wondering if id notice a big difference for the year gap. dont help that im an impatient :pt1cable:  . really want to max out all my games FC3/ BF3. PS2{cpu bound i know} and get good frame rates.

Cheers
a c 273 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 3:28:24 PM

A single 660Ti is about the same performance as SLi'd 560Ti's in games but almost exactly the same performance in GPU compute such as F@H.
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December 27, 2012 4:15:59 PM

trueh3llrazor said:
Hi Guys and girls.

Would it be worth upgrading form a 560 2gb to a 660ti 2gb "what would be noticable" or do i wait for amd 8xxx or nvidias 7xx, budget not really an issue unless wife finds out. but was really wondering if id notice a big difference for the year gap. dont help that im an impatient :pt1cable:  . really want to max out all my games FC3/ BF3. PS2{cpu bound i know} and get good frame rates.

Cheers


Hi see link below in make your decision of the difference in performance versus
the price:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/543?vs=647

seems like a big jump in performance

And I won't 'rat you out"
' to your wife!
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a c 107 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 4:31:22 PM

actually it's twice the frame rates as a single 560 but the actual performance is greater because the cards architecture is different. You can't judge it by "sli" performance data.....
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 4:33:16 PM

swifty_morgan said:
actually it's twice the frame rates as a single 560 but the actual performance is greater because the cards architecture is different. You can't judge it by "sli" performance data.....

You can if you have two of each of the cards... :whistle: 
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a c 118 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 4:55:07 PM

Mousemonkey said:
You can if you have two of each of the cards... :whistle: 


Yeah, but true3 never mentioned being interested in SLI/CF
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 5:07:19 PM

toyftw said:
Yeah, but true3 never mentioned being interested in SLI/CF

I never said that they did, I just gave an owners comparison of the cards. How is that so difficult to get your head around? :heink: 
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a c 118 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 5:24:56 PM

Mousemonkey said:
I never said that they did, I just gave an owners comparison of the cards. How is that so difficult to get your head around? :heink: 


Not difficult at all, saw no harm in mentioning what I did
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 5:37:16 PM

toyftw said:
Not difficult at all, saw no harm in mentioning what I did

Other than implying that I somehow suggested that the OP go SLi or Crossfire?
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a c 118 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 5:48:38 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Other than implying that I somehow suggested that the OP go SLi or Crossfire?


never meant to imply that at all, was merely drawing attention that trueh3 asked
a simple question; is it worth upgrading from a 560 to a 660ti.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 5:50:09 PM

yes, 660ti is a fair amount faster than a 560ti
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 5:53:01 PM

toyftw said:
never meant to imply that at all, was merely drawing attention that trueh3 asked
a simple question; is it worth upgrading from a 560 to a 660ti.

A question I answered from an owners point of view and at no point suggested that the OP went the SLi or CF route so why then did you quote my response and then point out that the OP never said that they wanted to SLi or CF?
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a c 118 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 6:05:55 PM

Mousemonkey said:
A question I answered from an owners point of view and at no point suggested that the OP went the SLi or CF route so why then did you quote my response and then point out that the OP never said that they wanted to SLi or CF?


If I quoted your reply it was an accident, I don't remmeber doing that
& op was asking about 560 not 560ti
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 6:13:11 PM

toyftw said:
If I quoted your reply it was an accident, I don't remmeber doing that
& op was asking about 560 not 560ti

It was no accident so that's not going to wash and the difference between a 560 and 560Ti is not relevant in the implication that you made in that post so stop trying to wriggle out of the corner you posted yourself into.
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a c 118 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 6:22:55 PM

Mousemonkey said:
It was no accident so that's not going to wash and the difference between a 560 and 560Ti is not relevant in the implication that you made in that post so stop trying to wriggle out of the corner you posted yourself into.



Not trying to wriggle out of anything - if I quoted you it was an accident pure
and simple, unless you are counting 'replying to your posts' as quoting you,
but i see it as a reply not a direct quote. there is a performance diff (approx 10%)
between the two cards whether you deem it relavant or not.

My conscious is clear, I gave the op a simple and direct answer to his
question. He may choose your approach better & that's ok with me.

And I'm done debating it, you can declare yourself the "winner"
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 6:30:37 PM

toyftw said:
Not trying to wriggle out of anything - if I quoted you it was an accident pure
and simple, unless you are counting 'replying to your posts' as quoting you,
but i see it as a reply not a direct quote. there is a performance diff (approx 10%)
between the two cards whether you deem it relavant or not.

My conscious is clear, I gave the op a simple and direct answer to his
question. He may choose your approach better & that's ok with me.

And I'm done debating it, you can declare yourself the "winner"

Accidental quoting? Yeah right, whatever you say. :pfff: 
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December 27, 2012 6:50:05 PM

Mousemonkey for being a MOD you sure are acting like a newbie.

OP. The upgrade is well worth it. The new gpu is a dream come true and can easily OC the mem clock to 6,800. Heck one gtx 660 runs assassins creed 3 on normal settings in 720p (1680x1050) just fine. Kepler is the stuff....
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 6:54:28 PM

us11csalyer said:
Mousemonkey for being a MOD you sure are acting like a newbie.

How so? Is it because I wish to know why people make seemingly strange comments? Or because unlike many others on this forum I'm not into telling people what to spend their money on?
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December 27, 2012 6:58:08 PM

no, for carrying on with someone who pointed out this isn't a sli question nor did they imply you tried to get the OP to go sli. IDK, just seemed a little immature for a MOD.
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 7:03:21 PM

us11csalyer said:
no, for carrying on with someone who pointed out this isn't a sli question nor did they imply you tried to get the OP to go sli. IDK, just seemed a little immature for a MOD.

At no point did I say or imply that it was an SLi question and as I find your tone rather insulting I think you may need a holiday.
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a c 107 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 7:31:54 PM

Mousemonkey said:
You can if you have two of each of the cards... :whistle: 



this might be a bad time but..... I was looking at the cards.... 560's ( and ti's ) and 660's trying to figure out what made them different and what made them ( 660's ) more powerful than the 560's...........

only thing I could come up with is cuda cores. but something i noticed was shader clocks disappeared in the descriptions of the gtx600 series cards. any way to find what the shader count is on the 600 series? and how it corelate's into performance from one series of cards to the next.

something has to be making the 600 series beefier than the 500 series.

and do cuda cores double when you put 2 cards together or is it treated the same as them memory, as if it's non existent?
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a b U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 7:32:20 PM

I'm said buy a new 660Ti insert in x16 1st slot and 560 in x16 2nd slot.so sli.
Gpu set up look like this. 1x gpu=x16; 2x gpu=x16+x16=(x32); 3x gpu=x16+x8+x8=(x32); 4x gpu=x16+x8+x4+x4=(x32). so 2xgpu=4xgpu.
I'm said 2xGpu configuration is better than 1x gpu.
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a b U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 7:37:05 PM

Sli means not silly.sli means combine 2 Gpus and act like 1.
example 560gpu+660gpu combine both cards by using sli cable.
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a b U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 7:42:23 PM

Mousemonkey said:
In short yes, two cards will always give more performance than one on its own. I'm not sure how that relates to your link though or exactly what it is you're asking.

Speed variations between both cards in the link.
I'm said don't remove the old Gpu combine both cards .
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December 27, 2012 7:42:33 PM

swifty_morgan said:
this might be a bad time but..... I was looking at the cards.... 560's ( and ti's ) and 660's trying to figure out what made them different and what made them ( 660's ) more powerful than the 560's...........

only thing I could come up with is cuda cores. but something i noticed was shader clocks disappeared in the descriptions of the gtx600 series cards. any way to find what the shader count is on the 600 series? and how it corelate's into performance from one series of cards to the next.

something has to be making the 600 series beefier than the 500 series.

and do cuda cores double when you put 2 cards together or is it treated the same as them memory, as if it's non existent?

No the CUDA core don't "double up" when you SLi, it's like the RAM in that both cards are doing exactly the same amount of work at the same time with the same data. What makes the 660's more powerful is the amount of cores they have in relation to the 5xx series and the way that the Kepler arch has been tuned more for gaming than for GPU Compute.
hytecgowthaman said:
I'm said buy a new 660Ti insert in x16 1st slot and 560 in x16 2nd slot.so sli.
Gpu set up look like this. 1x gpu=x16; 2x gpu=x16+x16=(x32); 3x gpu=x16+x8+x8=(x32); 4x gpu=x16+x8+x4+x4=(x32). so 2xgpu=4xgpu.
I'm said 2xGpu configuration is better than 1x gpu.

A 560 and 660 will not run in SLi together. As for your GPU setup list, I have no idea what you are trying to say with that because it seems like gibberish to me.
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 27, 2012 7:44:11 PM

hytecgowthaman said:
Sli means not silly.sli means combine 2 Gpus and act like 1.
example 560gpu+660gpu combine both cards by using sli cable.

I know full well what SLi means and how it is achieved, you obviously don't.
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a b U Graphics card
December 28, 2012 12:04:46 AM

The 660Ti is a very nice card, and excels in many games, a decent upgrade.
If your card is slightly struggling in some of your games, then yes, get the 660, if not, you may wish to wait
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December 28, 2012 10:21:13 AM

Value for money wise, the GTX 660 is superior, but if you demand that extra ounce of performance a GTX 660 Ti is more appropriate.
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December 28, 2012 12:35:59 PM

I would recommend you to wait for the 700 series
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a c 107 U Graphics card
December 28, 2012 12:37:41 PM

wait for what? 6 or 9 month's?
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December 28, 2012 12:51:43 PM

Always an option I guess.

Improvement will be incremental. Not a full node shift like 40nm to 28nm.
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December 28, 2012 1:37:25 PM


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