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February 12, 2013 6:28:45 PM

Hello,

I have been out of the pc hardware loop , and will be building a new pc in the next month. I already have monitor (1024x765 resolution), keyboard and mouse. I will also need to buy an OS on this budget. I plan to play Skyrim, L4D 1&2, as well as web browsing, and watching Netflix and DVD movies.
From the research I've done, an AMD A10-5800K Trinity APU build looks like it may be up my alley- but I wanted to check with you guys first.
Thanks in advance for any help!
February 12, 2013 8:40:19 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($104.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $550.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-12 17:40 EST-0500)
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a b B Homebuilt system
February 12, 2013 8:44:37 PM

That PSU is overkill! Look for a cheaper alternative, like a Corsair CX430.
February 12, 2013 10:16:49 PM

TheN00bBuilder said:
That PSU is overkill! Look for a cheaper alternative, like a Corsair CX430.


A 430 watt PSU is most likely not to have the correct connectors for the Video and theotherboard and is not going to provide adequate power requiremens for the PC build. Actually, in Australia (not sure about the rest of the world) you can't even buy a PSU less than 620 watts in any retail PC store so as to where you are gonna get a 430 watt PSU is beyond me.

A few months ago, I did purchase a 550 watt PSU from a retail store. It was high on the shelf and the box was covered in dust. The retail store manager asked "what the heck would you want such a PSU for anyway?" and I replied "Oh, t's for an old system for running Windows XP sp2 (for playing those older XP games)" He still charged me $50 for it.

For this build, I'd suggest at least a 700 watt PSU.
February 12, 2013 10:29:24 PM

Thanks for the info guys, but I'm confused which PSU, and for which build, you are speaking of.
February 12, 2013 10:48:47 PM

get at least a 550w (not a cheap *ss psu please)
550w may seem like an overkill, but it somewhat prepares you for future upgrades. if you somehow saved some money and decided to get a new gpu, then 550w will serve you well. that is better than going back here a year or two and wondering if your 430 can handle your new gpu.
may 550w served me for 4-5 years, thats like 2-3 gpu upgrades, it is still working now i just decided to replace it
February 12, 2013 10:50:51 PM

Cons29 said:
get at least a 550w (not a cheap *ss psu please)
550w may seem like an overkill, but it somewhat prepares you for future upgrades. if you somehow saved some money and decided to get a new gpu, then 550w will serve you well. that is better than going back here a year or two and wondering if your 430 can handle your new gpu.
may 550w served me for 4-5 years, thats like 2-3 gpu upgrades, it is still working now i just decided to replace it


Gotcha, and will do. Thanks amigo!
February 12, 2013 10:58:42 PM

If you are relying just on the onboard video out then get at least a 600 watt PSU, streaming and watching videos draw more power than just typing text.

Most power supplies don't actually give you the total power, as on the label, only up to 80% anyhow unless otherwise stated. You can get away with a 550 watt PSU that does give you the total power output but if you choose to add a graphics card later on, you might have to upgrade to a 700 watt PSU.
a b B Homebuilt system
February 12, 2013 11:19:16 PM

TenPC, the CX430 would be fine. 1 PCIE 6 pin, 20 or 24 pin mobo, P4. It would be fine. And, the OP does NOT need 600 watts. Why did you say that?
a b B Homebuilt system
February 12, 2013 11:42:12 PM

drunkducki said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($104.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $550.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-12 17:40 EST-0500)



This is the obvious best choice by far. Do it.

February 12, 2013 11:45:44 PM

GV-R777D5-1GD
Power requirement 450 W
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...

So even by your suggestion, the 430 watt is still under powered for the suggested video card.

A 430 Watt PSU is actuall only about 375 total power output.

Don't skimp on power to save a few bucks, you will only have to spend more in the future replacing a shorted video card and possibly motherboard, as well (if not everything else).



a b B Homebuilt system
February 12, 2013 11:48:04 PM

TenPc said:
GV-R777D5-1GD
Power requirement 450 W
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...

So even by your suggestion, the 430 watt is still under powered for the suggested video card.

A 430 Watt PSU is actuall only about 375 total power output.

Don't skimp on power to save a few bucks, you will only have to spend more in the future replacing a shorted video card and possibly motherboard, as well (if not everything else).


Do so research before you call people out. Plenty of people have run 7850's on a cx430. Its makes 548w peak power.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-Po...
a b B Homebuilt system
February 12, 2013 11:52:18 PM

TheN00bBuilder said:
Sorry; Its about 20 dollars over the budget, but its worth it. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/D8rX


Also, don't pay $140 bucks for plain old gtx 650. You can get a gtx 650ti for the same money. or a 7770 for less and it will be more powerful.
February 13, 2013 12:03:12 AM

tiny voices said:
Do so research before you call people out. Plenty of people have run 7850's on a cx430. Its makes 548w peak power.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-Po...

548w was the maximum that the Testers could draw from the PSU before it shut down. It;s not advisable to draw its maximum for any length of time,.

a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 12:13:21 AM

Mail me one and I will run my 7870 on it. Point is the 7770 pulls 250w MAXIMUM and can easily be safely run on a cx430.
February 13, 2013 12:30:03 AM

If you (the asker) are unsure about what PSU, go ask in the PSU section, they are quite well-informed.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/forum-10-175.html

I think the point here is to ensure that the PC will run smoothly without having to squeeze out every drop of power without issue.

When a manufacturer website suggest the power reqiurement like 450 watts for example, that is not the actual power supply unit but the total power output of the PSU. Also, that does not take int0 account of heavy duty PC gaming or video editing or programming or other apps like Autocad that do weigh heavily on the video card and the CPU (as well as the hdd).
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 12:34:03 AM

You also have to understand that video card manufactures WAY over-state the power need of their cards. A cx430 for example, Could run a 7770, 90w CPU, fast RAM, tons of fans, an SSD, a HDD, and still have room to spare.
February 13, 2013 12:51:48 AM

tiny voices said:
You also have to understand that video card manufactures WAY over-state the power need of their cards. A cx430 for example, Could run a 7770, 90w CPU, fast RAM, tons of fans, an SSD, a HDD, and still have room to spare.


I suppose you could be right if you only were using Notepad for your word-processing and possibly only gaming with Spider Solitaire.

And no, manufacturers do not overstate power requirements, they are just assuming standard hardware installed.
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 12:54:53 AM

Your comment doesn't even make sense. The cx430 could run a system with a 7770 at full load without issue. Its a better PSU than you give it credit for. It can easily run a 7770 no problem at max load. Its just a fact.
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 1:13:37 AM

I know what it says. I also know that under full load it will only pull 250w MAX. This will easily be supported with a cx430. No problem. Go make a thread in the PSU forum if you don't believe me.
February 13, 2013 1:19:55 AM

TenPC. You are a troll. Stop spreading your ignorance.

I shudder to think that when your friends buy a 670 and ask you what PSU requirements they need. I think you'll say 1500w.

WTF 7770 on a 700w PSU?
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 1:51:48 AM

tiny voices said:
I know what it says. I also know that under full load it will only pull 250w MAX. This will easily be supported with a cx430. No problem. Go make a thread in the PSU forum if you don't believe me.


I agree to the last 2 posts. Actually, at mid load, according to MSI, the 7770 is only 80 watts. Sorry, if i am wrong. Blame it on MSI, lol!
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 2:55:16 AM

TenPc said:
A 430 watt PSU is most likely not to have the correct connectors for the Video and theotherboard and is not going to provide adequate power requiremens for the PC build. Actually, in Australia (not sure about the rest of the world) you can't even buy a PSU less than 620 watts in any retail PC store so as to where you are gonna get a 430 watt PSU is beyond me.

A few months ago, I did purchase a 550 watt PSU from a retail store. It was high on the shelf and the box was covered in dust. The retail store manager asked "what the heck would you want such a PSU for anyway?" and I replied "Oh, t's for an old system for running Windows XP sp2 (for playing those older XP games)" He still charged me $50 for it.

For this build, I'd suggest at least a 700 watt PSU.


You got ripped of for that power supply. You can get a corsair 500W for $40.... Please stop misinforming people about power supplies..... Please... You dont know what you are saying.
February 13, 2013 11:23:08 AM

a 700w is an overkill for most of us.

just to set a reference, my 550w (yes it does give 550w sustained) survived the following:
8800gt, gtx 260, 560Ti, the gtx 260 is a power hungry beast, the 560Ti actually consumes less power.
so a good 550w is, for me, the sweet spot. a 680 can even run at 550w according to nvidia (but i would not be comfortable personally)

don't get me wrong, i now use an x760 from seasonic, but that is my personal choice even though i know it is a bit much.

if you don't believe me, read every review of gpu, go to the power consumption section and you will see that a typical gaming rig (no sli/xfire) runs at 300-400w

but i would not recommend running your psu at max capacity, always leave some headroom. esp since capacitors do age over the years. for your peace of mind
February 13, 2013 6:16:26 PM

You all can do as you please but you will note on the Corsair site that the lowest PSU is 650 watt -

"VS Series PSUs: the entry-level 240V power supplies with high-end features.The Corsair VS Series are a great choice if you’re building a home or office system with lower power demands,..."
http://www.corsair.com/en/power-supply-units.html

However, I'm sure that we will be seeing most of you asking Questions in the Power Supply Units section in the near future...
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 6:21:59 PM

I won't be in the PSU section because i'm not stupid. The VS series isn't even what we are talking about. The cx430 is made by Seasonic and re-branded. Its basically the best 430w PSU money can buy. It will run a 7770 with absolutely ZERO problems at max load.
February 13, 2013 7:31:19 PM

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($104.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $550.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-12 17:40 EST-0500)[/quotemsg]

+1 on this suggestion.
I ran a quad core AMD processor, HD 6850, HDD, DVD drive and all kinds of USB stuff on a 500W power supply, and it worked great. Also that power supply looks like it supplies 44 amps on the 12 volt rail. That should be plenty for that card. I was looking on Newegg and the power requirements for a 660ti said 450W. 500W for a 7770 should work great. Having said that please do your own homework before spending money. Don't take any one person's word on it.
February 13, 2013 7:46:45 PM

44 amps is no good, you need at least 48 amps.
February 13, 2013 8:07:21 PM

I should have known better than to feed the troll.
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 8:23:59 PM

DR_No said:
I should have known better than to feed the troll.


LOLOL
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 8:25:02 PM

Double post.
February 13, 2013 8:41:17 PM

Me personally, i would not save on the 3 given things i believe (subjective) are often bottlenecks in any gamers rig i seen or played on, or read about.

1 get a DECENT powerful power-unit, i would just check even Amazon.com for a good bargain.
The reason is that a beefy vid card will hog lots of watts. And keeps the door open for upgrades in the near future.
a 500 watt decent brand cost about 35 to 40usd.

2 Do no spare on a beefy video card (often a huge bottleneck with on budget gamer rigs)

3 Memory, if you can afford it and place it into the budget i would even step down the cpu (price wise) and specs wise. Then loosing a couple of modules...

This is my 5 cents on the subject..good luck !
February 13, 2013 8:46:27 PM

Considering that the Asker is wanting a PC rig, perhaps Camohanna's specs is a better reference considering that he(?) is using a 750 watt PSU for a video card not mch better than the 7770.

i5-3570 / Gigabyte H77M-D3H / 8GB Ripjaws / Sapphire 7870 GHz / Antec 302 / XFX 750w
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 8:53:08 PM

TenPc said:
Considering that the Asker is wanting a PC rig, perhaps Camohanna's specs is a better reference considering that he(?) is using a 750 watt PSU for a video card not mch better than the 7770.

i5-3570 / Gigabyte H77M-D3H / 8GB Ripjaws / Sapphire 7870 GHz / Antec 302 / XFX 750w


I brought that 750w as the 550w was out of stock.... Plus i plan to crossfire down the track.
February 13, 2013 8:59:23 PM

camohanna said:
I brought that 750w as the 550w was out of stock.... Plus i plan to crossfire down the track.

Considering that you were going to buy a 550 watt PSU shows that you were not going to shortfall on power for your rig.
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 9:01:18 PM

TenPc said:
Considering that you were going to buy a 550 watt PSU shows that you were not going to shortfall on power for your rig.


It was more of availability . Im in new zealand and it has crap availability
February 13, 2013 9:16:46 PM

Let's consider Tiny Voices specs and his choice of a PSU -
Intel i3 3225 | MSI Z77A-G41 | GeIl 8gb ram | Gigabyte Windforce HD7870 | Corsair CX600 | Rosewill Challenger

The Gigabyte Windforce HD7870 http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=... requires a 500 watt PSU so his choice for 600 watts was to ensure that there was no power shortfall and I doubt that he would have chosen a 430 watt PSU.

a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 9:23:16 PM

I got the corsair free from a fiend's father who was selling some parts he got from work. Previously I was using a seasonic 450w. No problems at all. If I had a cx430 I would put it in my computer and max my graphics card with confidence. It would be ok. The seasonic is now in my girlfriend's computer to power her i3+gtx650ti. No problems.
February 13, 2013 9:23:24 PM

Perhaps we should consider NoobBuilders' Question about his 480 watt PSU?
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/362755-28-will-logisy...
Will my Logisys 480 watt power supply blow up?

I think the last answer by Pinhedd sums it all up.

Using a PSU to almost its peak level will mean a very noisy PSU struggling to maintain its output.
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 9:26:04 PM

TenPc said:
Perhaps we should consider NoobBuilders' Question about his 480 watt PSU?
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/362755-28-will-logisy...
Will my Logisys 480 watt power supply blow up?

I think the last answer by Pinhedd sums it all up.

Using a PSU to almost its peak level will mean a very noisy PSU struggling to maintain its output.


Thats a LOGISYS psu not xfx/corsair/seasonic....
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 9:26:32 PM

TenPc said:
Let's consider Tiny Voices specs and his choice of a PSU -
Intel i3 3225 | MSI Z77A-G41 | GeIl 8gb ram | Gigabyte Windforce HD7870 | Corsair CX600 | Rosewill Challenger

The Gigabyte Windforce HD7870 http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=... requires a 500 watt PSU so his choice for 600 watts was to ensure that there was no power shortfall and I doubt that he would have chosen a 430 watt PSU.


Please stop this psu debate.
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 9:28:35 PM

Agreed. I will have the mods lock the thread.
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 9:31:16 PM

tiny voices said:
Agreed. I will have the mods lock the thread.


Thank you. Can you get them to do something about Ten please?
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 9:34:59 PM

I think he learned he was wrong and hat it isn't nice to argue for the sake of arguing, which I may be a bit guilty of as well. All will be well.

See you around the forum!
a b B Homebuilt system
February 13, 2013 9:36:32 PM

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