EVGA GeForce 650 Ti 1GB SSC or Saphire Radeon HD 7770 1GB

[AngelL10]

So i want to buy one of these but I really don't know which one. Everyone says that the EVGA GeForce 650 Ti 1GB SSC is better but the Radeon HD 7770 has a lot of features for gaming, which the GeForce 650 Ti doesn't have it. I'd really like to know which one should i take so please help

 

[swifty_morgan]

want a 650ti, buy it. don't be swayed by inaccuracies.

 

[ikaz]

Just figure out what games you really would like to play and then check to see which of the two cards play that game the best. Then you can compair prices using the games that you want to play as a reference and decide if maybe one card cost $5 more is worth the extra 1 or 2 fps in a game. Also you see which price point for both cards seems to have a good review ie one brand maybe cheaper but poor build quality.

 

[bawchicawawa]

Both of them are decent at their price point.

If you pay around 15$ more for the 650 ti over the 7770, you will get a few more fps. Pay 30$ more for a 7850 than a 650 ti, you will get a huge boost in fps.

 

[burntpizza]

Definitly go for GTX 650 ti, at this price point its too good to miss

 

[CaptainTom]

Both of them are decent at their price point.

If you pay around 15$ more for the 650 ti over the 7770, you will get a few more fps. Pay 30$ more for a 7850 than a 650 ti, you will get a huge boost in fps.

Here's the problem: The 650 Ti is only 8% stronger and yet costs 17% more. I would say the 7770 is a better deal and the 7850 1GB is far stronger than both and only a little more expensive at $165. However if you want ACIII then the 650 Ti is a great purchase, but the 7850 comes with FC3 witch is easily just as good at the very least...

That is all you need to know. Which of the 3 applies to you?

 

[AngelL10]

Well..I just wish that i could run these last games with everything at high ( not super high or something like that ), just something decent so that i can get 50-60 fps. I'm also buying a new processor but i does it influence the game?does it boost it i mean? It's a AMD FX X4 4300, 3800MHz. About the apply, it's a bit complicated..I don't know if it's worth it to spend 13.49 more euros (17.84 dollars $ ) just for 5 fps..But if you guys say that it's much better to buy the 7850 then I'll see what i can do. Thanks for the help and I hope we can keep in touch .
PS: my friend said he has a 650ti and that he got 150+ fps..is that even possible?

 

[sam_p_lay]

It is possible in an older game. My old 2007 card could get 1250fps in a really old 90s game 7850 isn't quite as amazing as people are making out. It's certainly a capable card, but GTX650 Ti is right inbetween that and the 7770. And it's actually the GeForces that have all the features - nobody has mentioned that the 7770 has no features. If you get a 7850, you're best off getting the 2GB version, but it's barely any price increase then to get a GTX660 which is easily the best of all these cards.

EDIT: Here's how they stack up and why I'd take the GTX660 - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/far-cry-3-performance-benchmark,review-32584-5.html

 

[lostgamer_03]

Here's the problem: The 650 Ti is only 8% stronger and yet costs 17% more. I would say the 7770 is a better deal and the 7850 1GB is far stronger than both and only a little more expensive at $165. However if you want ACIII then the 650 Ti is a great purchase, but the 7850 comes with FC3 witch is easily just as good at the very least...

That is all you need to know. Which of the 3 applies to you?

Not true at all, the difference is huge.

Drivers are not up to date, but the drivers can't make up for such a huge leap in performance.

Just look:

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3233/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-review-gigabyte-vs-msi-vs-zotac-geforce-gtx-650-ti-vs-radeon-hd-7770

 

[CaptainTom]

Not true at all, the difference is huge.

Drivers are not up to date, but the drivers can't make up for such a huge leap in performance.

Just look:

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3233/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-review-gigabyte-vs-msi-vs-zotac-geforce-gtx-650-ti-vs-radeon-hd-7770

The difference you just showed is tiny lol. It's like 10-20% with the 7770 still winning a couple times. SO yeah with the drivers it is only 8% LIKE I SAID. The point is, there is almost no time a game will be playable with the 650 ti and not the 7770.

 

[sam_p_lay]

Did you click the link? They already calculated the average gain with the GTX650 Ti - 23.9%.

EDIT: Also the Radeon only won once, by 2.2%.

 

[CaptainTom]

Did you click the link? They already calculated the average gain with the GTX650 Ti - 23.9%.

EDIT: Also the Radeon only won once, by 2.2%.

I suppose that might be the average, but that was only because a few games gave it a huge boost while the 7770 was already getting a ton of frames. I wouldn't count those as much of win...

 

[sam_p_lay]

Haha I think most of us would I see what you're saying, but the gains from a 7850 over the GTX650 Ti are no more significant. That would be the equivalent of stepping up from a GTX560 to a GTX570.

 

[burntpizza]

It is possible in an older game. My old 2007 card could get 1250fps in a really old 90s game 7850 isn't quite as amazing as people are making out. It's certainly a capable card, but GTX650 Ti is right inbetween that and the 7770. And it's actually the GeForces that have all the features - nobody has mentioned that the 7770 has no features. If you get a 7850, you're best off getting the 2GB version, but it's barely any price increase then to get a GTX660 which is easily the best of all these cards.

EDIT: Here's how they stack up and why I'd take the GTX660 - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/far-cry-3-performance-benchmark,review-32584-5.html

Might as well get a radeon hd 7870 then since its even faster for the same price.

 

[sam_p_lay]

Might as well get a radeon hd 7870 then since its even faster for the same price.

Depends what country you're in. Where I am, 7870s cost more. And only deliver <5% gain interms of frames/second. In other ways, they're lacking compared to the GTX660. So I'd personally let the GTX660 be my limit - diminishing returns beyond that point.

EDIT: And take a look at the benchmark - barely any gain at all from 7870. In AMD-friendly games there may be more gain, while the GTX660 will actually beat it in nVidia-friendly games. Far Cry 3 is the really performance-critical game though - only game I've seen that even a GTX660/7870 can't handle maxed at 1080p.

 

[lostgamer_03]

Might as well get a radeon hd 7870 then since its even faster for the same price.

The lack of FXAA, TXAA, boost and PhysX on the Radeon 7870 makes it a win for the GTX 660. GTX 660 also produces less heat and uses less power.

The Twin Frozr 3 on GTX 660 gets 60 celsius on full load while Twin Frozr 3 on Radeon 7870 gets 73 celcius.

 

[sam_p_lay]

Don't forget adaptive v-sync ;-)

 

[burntpizza]

The lack of FXAA, TXAA, boost and PhysX on the Radeon 7870 makes it a win for the GTX 660. GTX 660 also produces less heat and uses less power.

The Twin Frozr 3 on GTX 660 gets 60 celsius on full load while Twin Frozr 3 on Radeon 7870 gets 73 celcius.

Both depends on model

Power:

TDP=/= Power Consumption

Temp:

HD 7870 is a good price is when its the priced the same as GTX 660 like in the United States and Europe. And, it comes with 2 free games. When, it is a lot more expensive then yea. GTX 660 wins

FXAA and TXAA blurs crap somethings and MSAA miss edges.

The extra boost does nothing at all when benchmarks already speak the truth.


Adaptive Vsync is pretty cool. AMD needs to integrate radeon pro into CCC.


HD 7870 embarrassed GTX 680 in computation. So, thats one very useful function GTX 660 fail to have.

 

[lostgamer_03]

Both depends on model

Power:

http://media.bestofmicro.com/U/N/352319/original/Power.png

TDP=/= Power Consumption

Temp:

http://media.bestofmicro.com/U/S/352324/original/Temp.png



HD 7870 is a good price is when its the priced the same as GTX 660 like in the United States and Europe. And, it comes with 2 free games. When, it is a lot more expensive then yea. GTX 660 wins

FXAA and TXAA blurs crap somethings and MSAA miss edges.

The extra boost does nothing at all when benchmarks already speak the truth.


Adaptive Vsync is pretty cool. AMD needs to integrate radeon pro into CCC.


HD 7870 embarrassed GTX 680 in computation. So, thats one very useful function GTX 660 fail to have.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_hd_7870_twinfrozr_iii_oc_review,8.html Radeon 7870

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_660_twinfrozr_iii_review,8.html GTX 660

They use same cooler, which Means GTX 660 is a cooler chip. You can't compare 2 GPUs with different coolers on.

 

[sam_p_lay]

Compute being "very useful" is highly debatable For non-gaming stuff sure, but in games, PhysX is used in a lot more games than GPU compute (and the usefulness of PhysX is highly debated based on number of games!).

 

[djangoringo]

lol, from a 650 ti vs 7770, to a war of 7870 vs 660...war...war never changes.
Get the 650 ti, it's better, and only cause you asked for those two.

 

[lostgamer_03]

Both depends on model

Power:

http://media.bestofmicro.com/U/N/352319/original/Power.png

TDP=/= Power Consumption

Temp:

http://media.bestofmicro.com/U/S/352324/original/Temp.png



HD 7870 is a good price is when its the priced the same as GTX 660 like in the United States and Europe. And, it comes with 2 free games. When, it is a lot more expensive then yea. GTX 660 wins

FXAA and TXAA blurs crap somethings and MSAA miss edges.

The extra boost does nothing at all when benchmarks already speak the truth.


Adaptive Vsync is pretty cool. AMD needs to integrate radeon pro into CCC.


HD 7870 embarrassed GTX 680 in computation. So, thats one very useful function GTX 660 fail to have.

And if we look at the power consumptio nwith the same cooler, then it will surprise you that GTX 660 uses less power aswell!

108 watt vs 161 watt

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_hd_7870_twinfrozr_iii_oc_review,7.html - 7870

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_660_twinfrozr_iii_review,7.html - GTX 660

 

[sam_p_lay]

a war of 7870 vs 660...war...war never changes.

LOL :-D

 

[AngelL10]

Guys, it seems like i can't afford the 7850 or 660.. it's just too much money. The most money I can spend on a video card it's 145 euros.. It's really annoying because if i put like 50 euros, I can get a much better one and if I put again 50 euros i can get again a much better one than the previous. I am so confused right now.. . Could you guys tell me what's the best video card I can afford with these money and the exact model? At first I wanted to buy the Saphire Radeon 7770 but then I saw the GTX650 TI and i just don't know which one is best for gaming ( Black ops 2 , Assassin's creed 3 and mostly new games ). I also feel pretty embarased because you guys spent all this time trying to figure out the best videocard and I REALLY wanted a gtx 660.. so.. what is the best video card I can get for 145 euros?

 

[swifty_morgan]

if you don't buy the card you want you'll never be happy.