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EVGA GeForce 650 Ti 1GB SSC or Saphire Radeon HD 7770 1GB

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December 28, 2012 9:34:32 PM

So i want to buy one of these but I really don't know which one. Everyone says that the EVGA GeForce 650 Ti 1GB SSC is better but the Radeon HD 7770 has a lot of features for gaming, which the GeForce 650 Ti doesn't have it. I'd really like to know which one should i take so please help :) 
December 28, 2012 9:41:27 PM

want a 650ti, buy it. don't be swayed by inaccuracies.
December 28, 2012 11:04:07 PM

Just figure out what games you really would like to play and then check to see which of the two cards play that game the best. Then you can compair prices using the games that you want to play as a reference and decide if maybe one card cost $5 more is worth the extra 1 or 2 fps in a game. Also you see which price point for both cards seems to have a good review ie one brand maybe cheaper but poor build quality.
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December 28, 2012 11:15:29 PM

Both of them are decent at their price point.

If you pay around 15$ more for the 650 ti over the 7770, you will get a few more fps. Pay 30$ more for a 7850 than a 650 ti, you will get a huge boost in fps.




December 28, 2012 11:19:50 PM

Definitly go for GTX 650 ti, at this price point its too good to miss
December 28, 2012 11:27:20 PM

bawchicawawa said:
Both of them are decent at their price point.

If you pay around 15$ more for the 650 ti over the 7770, you will get a few more fps. Pay 30$ more for a 7850 than a 650 ti, you will get a huge boost in fps.



Here's the problem: The 650 Ti is only 8% stronger and yet costs 17% more. I would say the 7770 is a better deal and the 7850 1GB is far stronger than both and only a little more expensive at $165. However if you want ACIII then the 650 Ti is a great purchase, but the 7850 comes with FC3 witch is easily just as good at the very least...

That is all you need to know. Which of the 3 applies to you?
December 29, 2012 10:58:13 AM

Well..I just wish that i could run these last games with everything at high ( not super high or something like that ), just something decent so that i can get 50-60 fps. I'm also buying a new processor but i does it influence the game?does it boost it i mean? It's a AMD FX X4 4300, 3800MHz. About the apply, it's a bit complicated..I don't know if it's worth it to spend 13.49 more euros (17.84 dollars $ ) just for 5 fps..But if you guys say that it's much better to buy the 7850 then I'll see what i can do. Thanks for the help and I hope we can keep in touch :) .
PS: my friend said he has a 650ti and that he got 150+ fps..is that even possible?
December 29, 2012 12:40:33 PM

It is possible in an older game. My old 2007 card could get 1250fps in a really old 90s game :-) 7850 isn't quite as amazing as people are making out. It's certainly a capable card, but GTX650 Ti is right inbetween that and the 7770. And it's actually the GeForces that have all the features - nobody has mentioned that the 7770 has no features. If you get a 7850, you're best off getting the 2GB version, but it's barely any price increase then to get a GTX660 which is easily the best of all these cards.

EDIT: Here's how they stack up and why I'd take the GTX660 - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/far-cry-3-performance-ben...
December 29, 2012 1:54:08 PM

CaptainTom said:
Here's the problem: The 650 Ti is only 8% stronger and yet costs 17% more. I would say the 7770 is a better deal and the 7850 1GB is far stronger than both and only a little more expensive at $165. However if you want ACIII then the 650 Ti is a great purchase, but the 7850 comes with FC3 witch is easily just as good at the very least...

That is all you need to know. Which of the 3 applies to you?


Not true at all, the difference is huge.

Drivers are not up to date, but the drivers can't make up for such a huge leap in performance.

Just look:

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3233/19/nvidia-geforce-...
December 29, 2012 2:26:28 PM

lostgamer_03 said:
Not true at all, the difference is huge.

Drivers are not up to date, but the drivers can't make up for such a huge leap in performance.

Just look:

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3233/19/nvidia-geforce-...


The difference you just showed is tiny lol. It's like 10-20% with the 7770 still winning a couple times. SO yeah with the drivers it is only 8% LIKE I SAID. The point is, there is almost no time a game will be playable with the 650 ti and not the 7770.
December 29, 2012 2:32:52 PM

Did you click the link? They already calculated the average gain with the GTX650 Ti - 23.9%.

EDIT: Also the Radeon only won once, by 2.2%.
December 29, 2012 2:38:36 PM

sam_p_lay said:
Did you click the link? They already calculated the average gain with the GTX650 Ti - 23.9%.

EDIT: Also the Radeon only won once, by 2.2%.


I suppose that might be the average, but that was only because a few games gave it a huge boost while the 7770 was already getting a ton of frames. I wouldn't count those as much of win...
December 29, 2012 2:42:01 PM

Haha I think most of us would :-) I see what you're saying, but the gains from a 7850 over the GTX650 Ti are no more significant. That would be the equivalent of stepping up from a GTX560 to a GTX570.
December 29, 2012 6:16:45 PM

sam_p_lay said:
It is possible in an older game. My old 2007 card could get 1250fps in a really old 90s game :-) 7850 isn't quite as amazing as people are making out. It's certainly a capable card, but GTX650 Ti is right inbetween that and the 7770. And it's actually the GeForces that have all the features - nobody has mentioned that the 7770 has no features. If you get a 7850, you're best off getting the 2GB version, but it's barely any price increase then to get a GTX660 which is easily the best of all these cards.

EDIT: Here's how they stack up and why I'd take the GTX660 - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/far-cry-3-performance-ben...


Might as well get a radeon hd 7870 then since its even faster for the same price.
December 29, 2012 6:30:02 PM

burntpizza said:
Might as well get a radeon hd 7870 then since its even faster for the same price.


Depends what country you're in. Where I am, 7870s cost more. And only deliver <5% gain interms of frames/second. In other ways, they're lacking compared to the GTX660. So I'd personally let the GTX660 be my limit - diminishing returns beyond that point.

EDIT: And take a look at the benchmark - barely any gain at all from 7870. In AMD-friendly games there may be more gain, while the GTX660 will actually beat it in nVidia-friendly games. Far Cry 3 is the really performance-critical game though - only game I've seen that even a GTX660/7870 can't handle maxed at 1080p.
December 29, 2012 8:01:01 PM

burntpizza said:
Might as well get a radeon hd 7870 then since its even faster for the same price.


The lack of FXAA, TXAA, boost and PhysX on the Radeon 7870 makes it a win for the GTX 660. GTX 660 also produces less heat and uses less power.

The Twin Frozr 3 on GTX 660 gets 60 celsius on full load while Twin Frozr 3 on Radeon 7870 gets 73 celcius.
December 29, 2012 8:40:55 PM

Don't forget adaptive v-sync ;-)
December 30, 2012 6:21:09 PM

lostgamer_03 said:
The lack of FXAA, TXAA, boost and PhysX on the Radeon 7870 makes it a win for the GTX 660. GTX 660 also produces less heat and uses less power.

The Twin Frozr 3 on GTX 660 gets 60 celsius on full load while Twin Frozr 3 on Radeon 7870 gets 73 celcius.


Both depends on model

Power:



TDP=/= Power Consumption

Temp:





HD 7870 is a good price is when its the priced the same as GTX 660 like in the United States and Europe. And, it comes with 2 free games. When, it is a lot more expensive then yea. GTX 660 wins

FXAA and TXAA blurs crap somethings and MSAA miss edges.

The extra boost does nothing at all when benchmarks already speak the truth.


Adaptive Vsync is pretty cool. AMD needs to integrate radeon pro into CCC.


HD 7870 embarrassed GTX 680 in computation. So, thats one very useful function GTX 660 fail to have.
December 30, 2012 7:10:00 PM

burntpizza said:
Both depends on model

Power:

http://media.bestofmicro.com/U/N/352319/original/Power.png

TDP=/= Power Consumption

Temp:

http://media.bestofmicro.com/U/S/352324/original/Temp.png



HD 7870 is a good price is when its the priced the same as GTX 660 like in the United States and Europe. And, it comes with 2 free games. When, it is a lot more expensive then yea. GTX 660 wins

FXAA and TXAA blurs crap somethings and MSAA miss edges.

The extra boost does nothing at all when benchmarks already speak the truth.


Adaptive Vsync is pretty cool. AMD needs to integrate radeon pro into CCC.


HD 7870 embarrassed GTX 680 in computation. So, thats one very useful function GTX 660 fail to have.


http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_hd_7870... Radeon 7870

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_66... GTX 660

They use same cooler, which Means GTX 660 is a cooler chip. You can't compare 2 GPUs with different coolers on.
December 30, 2012 8:50:17 PM

Compute being "very useful" is highly debatable :-) For non-gaming stuff sure, but in games, PhysX is used in a lot more games than GPU compute (and the usefulness of PhysX is highly debated based on number of games!).
December 30, 2012 8:56:44 PM

lol, from a 650 ti vs 7770, to a war of 7870 vs 660...war...war never changes.
Get the 650 ti, it's better, and only cause you asked for those two.
December 30, 2012 11:45:09 PM

burntpizza said:
Both depends on model

Power:

http://media.bestofmicro.com/U/N/352319/original/Power.png

TDP=/= Power Consumption

Temp:

http://media.bestofmicro.com/U/S/352324/original/Temp.png



HD 7870 is a good price is when its the priced the same as GTX 660 like in the United States and Europe. And, it comes with 2 free games. When, it is a lot more expensive then yea. GTX 660 wins

FXAA and TXAA blurs crap somethings and MSAA miss edges.

The extra boost does nothing at all when benchmarks already speak the truth.


Adaptive Vsync is pretty cool. AMD needs to integrate radeon pro into CCC.


HD 7870 embarrassed GTX 680 in computation. So, thats one very useful function GTX 660 fail to have.


And if we look at the power consumptio nwith the same cooler, then it will surprise you that GTX 660 uses less power aswell!

108 watt vs 161 watt

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_hd_7870... - 7870

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_66... - GTX 660
December 31, 2012 9:06:14 AM

djangoringo said:
a war of 7870 vs 660...war...war never changes.


LOL :-D
January 1, 2013 6:03:55 PM

Guys, it seems like i can't afford the 7850 or 660.. it's just too much money. The most money I can spend on a video card it's 145 euros.. It's really annoying because if i put like 50 euros, I can get a much better one and if I put again 50 euros i can get again a much better one than the previous. I am so confused right now..:(  . Could you guys tell me what's the best video card I can afford with these money and the exact model? At first I wanted to buy the Saphire Radeon 7770 but then I saw the GTX650 TI and i just don't know which one is best for gaming ( Black ops 2 , Assassin's creed 3 and mostly new games ). I also feel pretty embarased because you guys spent all this time trying to figure out the best videocard and I REALLY wanted a gtx 660.. so.. what is the best video card I can get for 145 euros?
January 1, 2013 7:53:09 PM

if you don't buy the card you want you'll never be happy.
January 1, 2013 10:24:02 PM

swifty_morgan said:
if you don't buy the card you want you'll never be happy.


it's too much money.. I'm buying a whole pc. Processor , RAM , mother board and if i take the 660 , the pc won't keep up with the video card. just to know, I'm buying a FX x4 3800 mhz , 4 gb ram 1600mhz and motherboard..still have to find one.
January 2, 2013 1:36:51 PM

The best thing any of us can do is buy the best we can afford. Best you can afford is the GTX650 Ti (miles better than the 7770) so go for it :-) It won't max all games at 1080p, but it'll max the majority of them! Only the most demanding games that will require reducing settings a little. Fun isn't all about the graphics anyway - look at Dishonored or Mark of the Ninja.
January 2, 2013 1:53:17 PM

sam_p_lay said:
The best thing any of us can do is buy the best we can afford. Best you can afford is the GTX650 Ti (miles better than the 7770) so go for it :-) It won't max all games at 1080p, but it'll max the majority of them! Only the most demanding games that will require reducing settings a little. Fun isn't all about the graphics anyway - look at Dishonored or Mark of the Ninja.

True :)  I played most of game with everything on low, except the textures or details. These were on high. Anyway, you sadi that the 650 ti is better but there are several models. I'm talking about the EVGA 650ti.
January 2, 2013 9:33:53 PM

EVGA is a solid choice. Check out their warranties for your country. Where I am, they offer three years standard, extended to five or ten if you register with them within 30 days of purchase. Miles better than what any of the other manufacturers offer. Means even if that card dies in 8 years, EVGA replace it with the 2021 equivalent! I think that's pretty awesome :-) Could be different in your country though. If you're more interested in overclocking than warranty, MSI or Asus might be your best choice.
January 3, 2013 6:32:55 PM

sam_p_lay said:
EVGA is a solid choice. Check out their warranties for your country. Where I am, they offer three years standard, extended to five or ten if you register with them within 30 days of purchase. Miles better than what any of the other manufacturers offer. Means even if that card dies in 8 years, EVGA replace it with the 2021 equivalent! I think that's pretty awesome :-) Could be different in your country though. If you're more interested in overclocking than warranty, MSI or Asus might be your best choice.


I'm not overclocking anything because I'm pretty afraid that I might brake something or it will be worse in time. All I want is to play games with mostly on high..anti alysing, anti stropic..just like everyone. Anyway, how much will this card support me untill i put everything on medium? will it keep 5 years?:) 

PS: I want to thank everyone for helping me with the videocard. I saw all the hard work and i never thought i would find such kindness here:) . Hope we can keep in touch.
January 3, 2013 6:40:22 PM

Glad to help :-) And that's fine - plenty of people prefer to not overclock (myself included). At least not until warranty is already void and replacement time is coming up anyway. Five years is a long time though - it's doubtful it'll still be good by then. But that's also true for a GTX680 or 7970 - any current card will be low-end in 2018 (though today's high-end cards may still be fine for low settings).
January 26, 2013 11:50:58 PM

AngelL10 said:
So i want to buy one of these but I really don't know which one. Everyone says that the EVGA GeForce 650 Ti 1GB SSC is better but the Radeon HD 7770 has a lot of features for gaming, which the GeForce 650 Ti doesn't have it. I'd really like to know which one should i take so please help :) 



I have a Dell Precision 390 with the QX6700 cpu (2.66 Ghz extreme, Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit).
As you can tell, it's an older machine which means I'm very budget conscious.

I just purchased the EVGA GX650 Ti SSC 2Gb and I couldn't be happier.
I'm playing Crysis 2 on Ultra settings with an average FPS of 50 to 60.
Monitor settings are 1600 x 900.

I was in the market for the HD 7770, (because I couldn't afford the HD 7850) but when I saw the GTX 650 Ti on sale, I just figured it's the best mid-range bang-for-buck graphics card out there.

You can only tell so much with all the stats and graphs the arm-chair generals are shoving down your throat.
The only thing that matters is talking with people who are actually using one in their systems.

Go for facts, not suppositions ... or is that "suppositories"?
I always get the two mixed up.

April 26, 2013 6:11:11 PM

I upgraded a GTS 250 to the EVGA GTX 650 ti SSC and it is amazing. I have a low-mid gaming rig that the EVGA GTX 650 ti ssc runs everything high settings with 45+ FPS at 1080 resolution. For the price the gtx 650 ti ssc is a beast!

System:
i3 530 CPU w/ Windows 7
Seagate 500GB 7200 RPM HD
Ultra 600 Watt PSU
8 GB Corsair 1333 DDR3
EVGA P55 Mobo
EVGA GTX 650 Ti SSC
December 18, 2013 6:00:16 AM

TRAVIS FAULK is your evga the 1gb or 2gb version?
December 18, 2013 6:04:22 AM

Travis Faulk said:
I upgraded a GTS 250 to the EVGA GTX 650 ti SSC and it is amazing. I have a low-mid gaming rig that the EVGA GTX 650 ti ssc runs everything high settings with 45+ FPS at 1080 resolution. For the price the gtx 650 ti ssc is a beast!

System:
i3 530 CPU w/ Windows 7
Seagate 500GB 7200 RPM HD
Ultra 600 Watt PSU
8 GB Corsair 1333 DDR3
EVGA P55 Mobo
EVGA GTX 650 Ti SSC


is your EVGA 650 the 1gb or 2gb, because the 2gb is like a downgraded version of 660

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