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February 14, 2013 10:04:13 PM

Just as the title says, my goal is to build both an aesthetically pleasing and powerful PC. I have a question about the monitor, if my GPU's are good enough to get more than 60 (like 144 for instance since the monitor is 144hz) will they automatically put out that frame rate? or do i have to specify through individual games or settings or gfx settings to unlock the framerate to reach 144 fps? Also here are the specs. If you have any opinion on it let me know or if you see something that can be improved.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 90.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 12g Thermal Paste ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($192.15 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: NZXT FS-200RB 89.5 CFM 200mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE 90 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.98 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($279.00 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2444.93
February 14, 2013 10:12:06 PM

What are you going to be doing with this computer? ending world hunger?
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February 14, 2013 10:13:04 PM

Just a tip, Windows 7 Home Premium can only use a max of 8GB of RAM, so you would need to get Pro or Ultimate to be able to utilize a full 16GB
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February 14, 2013 10:15:35 PM

FlyingPigman said:
Just a tip, Windows 7 Home Premium can only use a max of 8GB of RAM, so you would need to get Pro or Ultimate to be able to utilize a full 16GB


Nope. It's 16GB
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February 14, 2013 10:49:12 PM

FlyingPigman said:
Just a tip, Windows 7 Home Premium can only use a max of 8GB of RAM, so you would need to get Pro or Ultimate to be able to utilize a full 16GB


Windows 7 Ultimate
192 GB

Windows 7 Enterprise
192 GB

Windows 7 Professional
192 GB

Windows 7 Home Premium
16 GB

Windows 7 Home Basic
8 GB

Windows 7 Starter
2 GB
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February 15, 2013 12:19:32 AM

24 inch 1080p monitor? LMAO......$2400 to game at 1080p/24. Waste of money. You need MULTIPLE (three or MORE) monitors. If you don't have the space, spend your money buying a bigger place or desk.
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February 15, 2013 12:20:47 AM

Only for gaming?
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February 15, 2013 12:34:56 AM

Eyefinity gaming :) 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DBpQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DBpQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DBpQ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($192.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($445.91 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($445.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($155.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($56.23 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($157.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($157.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($157.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2610.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-14 21:34 EST-0500)
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a b B Homebuilt system
February 15, 2013 12:41:46 AM

Single monitor gaming that can be upgraded to eyefinity.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DBwe
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DBwe/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DBwe/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($192.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($445.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($155.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($56.23 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($157.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1848.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-14 21:41 EST-0500)
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February 15, 2013 12:54:19 AM

brennon7 said:
24 inch 1080p monitor? LMAO......$2400 to game at 1080p/24. Waste of money. You need MULTIPLE (three or MORE) monitors. If you don't have the space, spend your money buying a bigger place or desk.


this rig wont even be able to handle Metro 2033 max settings at more than 60FPS at 1080.. It's not a waste.... you just don't know crap about DX11.1 gaming...
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February 15, 2013 12:54:25 AM

brennon7 said:
24 inch 1080p monitor? LMAO......$2400 to game at 1080p/24. Waste of money. You need MULTIPLE (three or MORE) monitors. If you don't have the space, spend your money buying a bigger place or desk.


this rig wont even be able to handle Metro 2033 max settings at more than 60FPS at 1080.. It's not a waste.... you just don't know crap about DX11.1 gaming...
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February 15, 2013 12:56:30 AM

James Musacchio said:
Windows 7 Ultimate
192 GB

Windows 7 Enterprise
192 GB

Windows 7 Professional
192 GB

Windows 7 Home Premium
16 GB

Windows 7 Home Basic
8 GB

Windows 7 Starter
2 GB


yeah, sorry, I meant Windows home Basic
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February 15, 2013 12:59:36 AM

Some of you seem to be missing how OP's monitor is a 144Hz 3D-capable 1080p display, not some bargain-bin 60Hz 1080p display. With 3D and going for around 144FPS, it can be used for almost as intensive of a workload as triple 1080p (about comparable to 60Hz 2560x1600 gaming). Two 7970 cards or thereabouts can easily be made great use of.

What I would suggest is getting a better, cheaper SSD such as a Plextor M5S for about $180 last I checked. It's faster and more compatible with UEFI BIOS motherboards (the M4 has a known bug with some UEFI systems).
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February 15, 2013 1:05:20 AM

blazorthon said:
Some of you seem to be missing how OP's monitor is a 144Hz 3D-capable 1080p display, not some bargain-bin 60Hz 1080p display. With 3D and going for around 144FPS, it can be used for almost as intensive of a workload as triple 1080p (about comparable to 60Hz 2560x1600 gaming). Two 7970 GHz Edition cards or thereabouts can easily be made great use of.

What I would suggest is getting a better, cheaper SSD such as a Plextor M5S for about $180 last I checked. It's faster and more compatible with UEFI BIOS motherboards (the M4 has a known bug with some UEFI systems).


and thus the reason blazorthon is titled as an "Expert"

But a friend of mine told me I'll have to turn off v-sync to get more than 60fps, but if i turn it off, i could get screen splicing/shredding. So what am i supposed to do? He also said more than 60FPS could make it blurry but i thought it would make it smoother and more clear, any ideas?
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February 15, 2013 1:08:04 AM

blazorthon said:
Some of you seem to be missing how OP's monitor is a 144Hz 3D-capable 1080p display, not some bargain-bin 60Hz 1080p display. With 3D and going for around 144FPS, it can be used for almost as intensive of a workload as triple 1080p (about comparable to 60Hz 2560x1600 gaming). Two 7970 cards or thereabouts can easily be made great use of.

What I would suggest is getting a better, cheaper SSD such as a Plextor M5S for about $180 last I checked. It's faster and more compatible with UEFI BIOS motherboards (the M4 has a known bug with some UEFI systems).


wow thanx dude for all the info, especially on the SSD.
Also, i don't like the idea of using multiple displays because of the spit in the screen where the screens meet. but i dont have money for a good 1440p or 1600p display so thats why I choose this one. plus i like the idea of being able to experience games at more than 60 FPS.

The only thing that I'm worried about is the manufacturer of that SSD, I've never heard of them.

Also I read up on the M4 bug. it has to do with its firmware, was it ever fixed or fixable?
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February 15, 2013 1:13:54 AM

$2400 and you don't think you can afford a good 1440p/1600p monitor??

Let's get things straight first, which do you prefer, 1080p @144Hz (fast) or 2560x1440/2560x1600 (higher res+great color)?
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February 15, 2013 1:21:40 AM

EzioAs said:
$2400 and you don't think you can afford a good 1440p/1600p monitor??

Let's get things straight first, which do you prefer, 1080p @144Hz (fast) or 2560x1440/2560x1600 (higher res+great color)?


so that's an additional 400$ dude... when i could pay 400$ less for a high end 1080p monitor with also great color... I don't have the extra money for a 700$ monitor because i will also be buying 7.1 surround sound and a good sound card.
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February 15, 2013 1:22:30 AM

EzioAs said:
$2400 and you don't think you can afford a good 1440p/1600p monitor??

Let's get things straight first, which do you prefer, 1080p @144Hz (fast) or 2560x1440/2560x1600 (higher res+great color)?


Unless you can link some good quality 1440p or 1600p displays, stop flaming. lol
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February 15, 2013 1:30:22 AM

Hi, it's not that expensive, this one is 400$ : http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS...

It has a higher resolution, it's a larger screen and it's an ips monitor.
Trim down the case for a nxzt phantom or switch(from nzxt) or CM HAF X or corsair 650D, there's cheaper seasonic units within 850W which will be plenty for the setup.
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February 15, 2013 1:32:30 AM

properbuilds said:
Hi, it's not that expensive, this one is 400$ : http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS...

It has a higher resolution, it's a larger screen and it's an ips monitor.
Trim down the case for a nxzt phantom or switch(from nzxt) or CM HAF X or corsair 650D, there's cheaper seasonic units within 850W which will be plenty for the setup.


I like the case LED's of the 820. its a must have because this is also an aesthetic build. but are you sure about the 850w being enough for this?
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February 15, 2013 1:34:37 AM

Not flaming or whatever.

If you get a 3570K (which is fine for gaming) and 2 7950s instead of 7970s (still great performance), you can get a good 2560x1440 monitor like this one.

You can still save some money by getting a different psu like XFX ProSeries 850W, 8GB memory instead of 16GB and a cheaper motherboard instead of the PRO like these

ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Asus P8Z77-V
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
MSI Z77A-GD55

Heck, with the cheaper parts, I'm sure 2 7970s can still be affordable.
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February 15, 2013 1:37:51 AM

EzioAs said:
Not flaming or whatever.

If you get a 3570K (which is fine for gaming) and 2 7950s instead of 7970s (still great performance), you can get a good 2560x1440 monitor like this one.

You can still save some money by getting a different psu like XFX ProSeries 850W, 8GB memory instead of 16GB and a cheaper motherboard instead of the PRO like these

ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Asus P8Z77-V
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
MSI Z77A-GD55

Heck, with the cheaper parts, I'm sure 2 7970s can still be affordable.


haha youre right, let me run that trough and see what it turns out to be.
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February 15, 2013 1:43:55 AM

EzioAs said:
Not flaming or whatever.

If you get a 3570K (which is fine for gaming) and 2 7950s instead of 7970s (still great performance), you can get a good 2560x1440 monitor like this one.

You can still save some money by getting a different psu like XFX ProSeries 850W, 8GB memory instead of 16GB and a cheaper motherboard instead of the PRO like these

ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Asus P8Z77-V
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
MSI Z77A-GD55

Heck, with the cheaper parts, I'm sure 2 7970s can still be affordable.


eh, not really. I'm getting the 3770k processor for about the same price as the one you mentioned and i don't mind paying an extra 50-70$ for the PSU and RAM.
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February 15, 2013 1:44:00 AM

EzioAs said:
Not flaming or whatever.

If you get a 3570K (which is fine for gaming) and 2 7950s instead of 7970s (still great performance), you can get a good 2560x1440 monitor like this one.

You can still save some money by getting a different psu like XFX ProSeries 850W, 8GB memory instead of 16GB and a cheaper motherboard instead of the PRO like these

ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Asus P8Z77-V
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
MSI Z77A-GD55

Heck, with the cheaper parts, I'm sure 2 7970s can still be affordable.


eh, not really. I'm getting the 3770k processor for about the same price as the one you mentioned and i don't mind paying an extra 50-70$ for the PSU and RAM.
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February 15, 2013 1:51:20 AM

Hi, you can stay with the case, but some changes were made, still it's as good as you initial setup, you'll not notice any performance difference and with the auria ips monitor :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 90.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: NZXT FS-200RB 89.5 CFM 200mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($122.75 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Best Buy)
Other: AURIA EQ276W 27" IPS LED Monitor IN MICROCENTER ($400.00)
Total: $2384.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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February 15, 2013 2:11:42 AM

properbuilds said:
Hi, you can stay with the case, but some changes were made, still it's as good as you initial setup, you'll not notice any performance difference and with the auria ips monitor :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 90.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: NZXT FS-200RB 89.5 CFM 200mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($122.75 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Best Buy)
Other: AURIA EQ276W 27" IPS LED Monitor IN MICROCENTER ($400.00)
Total: $2384.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


Nice build, but just get the Extreme4 for $70 cheaper? And i suggest the HAF X which is $60 cheaper.
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February 15, 2013 2:25:04 AM

properbuilds said:
Hi, you can stay with the case, but some changes were made, still it's as good as you initial setup, you'll not notice any performance difference and with the auria ips monitor :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 90.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: NZXT FS-200RB 89.5 CFM 200mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($122.75 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Best Buy)
Other: AURIA EQ276W 27" IPS LED Monitor IN MICROCENTER ($400.00)
Total: $2384.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


wow I really like the changes you made, but i rather have the i7, i know its necessary for gaming but I'm not just a gamer. I also model in 3DS max and do video and audio editing etc. thats also why i'm going for the 16 gb of ram.
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February 15, 2013 2:27:03 AM

camohanna said:
Nice build, but just get the Extreme4 for $70 cheaper? And i suggest the HAF X which is $60 cheaper.

extreme4 and HAF X?
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February 15, 2013 2:28:01 AM

Hi, if you can get the i7 on microcenter, get change for it then, you can find the same ram in microcenter with 16GB for less than 80$, so it still fits the budget, if you're going to a microcenter store, you'll get a discount on the motherboard of 50$.
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February 15, 2013 2:32:07 AM

James Musacchio said:
extreme4 and HAF X?


ASRock Extreme4 Motherboard and Cooler Master HAF X Case
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February 15, 2013 2:35:52 AM

James Musacchio said:
extreme4 and HAF X?


ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 is one of the most underrated boards around. It's a very excellent board that's often priced very low. HAF X is a great case too.
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February 15, 2013 2:37:33 AM

properbuilds said:
Hi, if you can get the i7 on microcenter, get change for it then, you can find the same ram in microcenter with 16GB for less than 80$, so it still fits the budget, if you're going to a microcenter store, you'll get a discount on the motherboard of 50$.

oh wow, thank you so much man, i didn't know :D 
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February 15, 2013 2:38:09 AM

James Musacchio said:
and thus the reason blazorthon is titled as an "Expert"

But a friend of mine told me I'll have to turn off v-sync to get more than 60fps, but if i turn it off, i could get screen splicing/shredding. So what am i supposed to do? He also said more than 60FPS could make it blurry but i thought it would make it smoother and more clear, any ideas?


Your friend is wrong. V-Sync is limited by your display's refresh rate. Most monitors are 60Hz or at least are ran at 60Hz even if they're capable of more, so that's what most people are limited to, but you'll have no such problem with your monitor.
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February 15, 2013 2:41:40 AM

James Musacchio said:
wow thanx dude for all the info, especially on the SSD.
Also, i don't like the idea of using multiple displays because of the spit in the screen where the screens meet. but i dont have money for a good 1440p or 1600p display so thats why I choose this one. plus i like the idea of being able to experience games at more than 60 FPS.

The only thing that I'm worried about is the manufacturer of that SSD, I've never heard of them.

Also I read up on the M4 bug. it has to do with its firmware, was it ever fixed or fixable?


You do have the money for a decent Korean IPS panel if you want one, but it'd be a very different experience from your display. Not necessarily better or worse, just different. For example, instead of high refresh rate and 3D, you'd have a somewhat larger screen with better picture, viewing angle, and denser pixels.

I agree with you on split displays (I just can't stand bezels for multi-monitor gaming).

Plextor is not heard of a lot in the consumer area because they're a more professional brand. I guarantee it to be one of the most reliable SSDs ever. It even has a controller from the same company as the Crucial M4's controller, Marvell, granted it's a higher performance drive.

I don't know if the bug has been fixed yet, but I recently read someone talking about it, so I don't think so.
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February 15, 2013 2:52:03 AM

blazorthon said:
You do have the money for a decent Korean IPS panel if you want one, but it'd be a very different experience from your display. Not necessarily better or worse, just different. For example, instead of high refresh rate and 3D, you'd have a somewhat larger screen with better picture, viewing angle, and denser pixels.

I agree with you on split displays (I just can't stand bezels for multi-monitor gaming).

Plextor is not heard of a lot in the consumer area because they're a more professional brand. I guarantee it to be one of the most reliable SSDs ever. It even has a controller from the same company as the Crucial M4's controller, Marvell, granted it's a higher performance drive.

I don't know if the bug has been fixed yet, but I recently read someone talking about it, so I don't think so.


Thanx again for telling me all about this. Ill go with the SSD you mentioned b4. I like how you explained the difference between the two monitors too. very informative.
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February 15, 2013 2:52:15 AM

Best answer selected by James Musacchio.
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February 15, 2013 2:53:03 AM

blazorthon said:
You do have the money for a decent Korean IPS panel if you want one, but it'd be a very different experience from your display. Not necessarily better or worse, just different. For example, instead of high refresh rate and 3D, you'd have a somewhat larger screen with better picture, viewing angle, and denser pixels.

I agree with you on split displays (I just can't stand bezels for multi-monitor gaming).

Plextor is not heard of a lot in the consumer area because they're a more professional brand. I guarantee it to be one of the most reliable SSDs ever. It even has a controller from the same company as the Crucial M4's controller, Marvell, granted it's a higher performance drive.

I don't know if the bug has been fixed yet, but I recently read someone talking about it, so I don't think so.


I'm just not sure what I want now, high refresh rate or better quality picture...
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February 15, 2013 4:05:43 AM

James Musacchio said:
Thanx again for telling me all about this. Ill go with the SSD you mentioned b4. I like how you explained the difference between the two monitors too. very informative.


Glad to help.

James Musacchio said:
I'm just not sure what I want now, high refresh rate or better quality picture...


Yeah, IDK which way to suggest going. The higher resolution may be nice outside of gaming, but in gaming, I find it difficult to objectively argue one over the other.
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February 15, 2013 4:43:33 AM

Personally, I'd go with higher res and better quality picture and color. Having been using 1080p TN monitor for quite some time, I personally would not settle for another TN panel for my next monitor. Viewing angles are horrible (I knew that before buying but on a bigger screen, it'll be even more pronouce). And I was able to be more productive (for work) with higher res coming from 17" 1280x1024 to 22" 1920x1080, so I can get the gist working with an even bigger screen and higher res. That's my preference though.
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February 16, 2013 12:02:58 AM

EzioAs said:
Personally, I'd go with higher res and better quality picture and color. Having been using 1080p TN monitor for quite some time, I personally would not settle for another TN panel for my next monitor. Viewing angles are horrible (I knew that before buying but on a bigger screen, it'll be even more pronouce). And I was able to be more productive (for work) with higher res coming from 17" 1280x1024 to 22" 1920x1080, so I can get the gist working with an even bigger screen and higher res. That's my preference though.


I'm going to get the ASUS PB278Q 1440p one :D  I'm not much of a competitive gamer (depends though) and i love a crisper display :D  thank you all so much for helping me to decide.
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February 16, 2013 12:25:47 AM

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Glad to help.



Yeah, IDK which way to suggest going. The higher resolution may be nice outside of gaming, but in gaming, I find it difficult to objectively argue one over the other.


Here's what I've got now, any suggestions? try to keep aesthetics in mind too

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 90.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 12g Thermal Paste ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($182.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: NZXT FS-200RB 89.5 CFM 200mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: NZXT FX-140LB 98.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE 90 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.98 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($649.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2816.75
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February 17, 2013 1:36:20 AM

It looks good to me :) 
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February 17, 2013 1:43:27 AM

Looks good.
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February 17, 2013 2:40:32 AM

blazorthon said:
It looks good to me :) 

Thanx, just what i wanted to hear. The o ly problem is that ive never pasted a processor. Anygood tutorials or tips?
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February 17, 2013 3:42:49 AM

Putting the paste on is easy. You just put a drop or two of paste on and if you want to, spread it a little with a piece of paper or something like that. Heck, it's usually fine to just put the drop or two on the CPU and attach the cooler without manually spreading the paste. Pressing the cooler down should spread it just fine so long as its near the center of the CPU's IHS.
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