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February 15, 2013 3:38:21 AM

Hello,
Just wondering if you guys can give a few suggestion if on whether this is good or bad. A little worried about the psu.. dont know if the estimated it true or not. Also my budget is 1000 or less. I will NOT spend over 1k.


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DBUG

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February 15, 2013 3:39:12 AM

Hi, there's no list.
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February 15, 2013 3:44:49 AM

List added, sorry.. my mistake!


***going to bed, will reply to responses in the morning. Night folks!
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February 15, 2013 3:56:00 AM

Two Problems.

First of all, you need two RAM sticks. Just one will halve your throughput which will slow down your computer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That RAM is just an extra eight dollars, but you have to get it. Halved RAM speed will slow down everything.

Second is your power supply. DO NOT SKIMP on your power supply, it can destroy components. How about:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A top quality SeaSonic at 620 watts. You are still well below $1,000

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February 15, 2013 4:01:04 AM

exkingb12 said:
List added, sorry.. my mistake!


***going to bed, will reply to responses in the morning. Night folks!



Hi, switch the psu, and get an i5 ivybridge, you can get the z75 board for less, and the 7870XT for about the same price, here's the list : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DDCU
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February 15, 2013 4:08:24 AM

properbuilds said:
Hi, switch the psu, and get an i5 ivybridge, you can get the z75 board for less, and the 7870XT for about the same price, here's the list : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DDCU


I'd recommend going for the Antec BP-550 Plus over the Rosewill Green 530 for the same price (well, it's technically a few cents more expensive, but practically the same at just under $55). It has better reviews (both professional and customer) from what I can tell and the advantage of being modular for the same price is nice.
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February 15, 2013 4:14:35 AM

Hi, actually the rosewill green is better, the antec bp-550 isn't a good unit, it cannot deliver the full power, it has +12v dual rail, the rosewill green has good reviews on common websites who reviews psus.
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February 15, 2013 4:28:35 AM

I know for a fact that it can deliver more than enough power for OP's system as I've used it multiple times with systems which pull more power than OP's will and not had any issues. I never said that the Rosewill Green 530 is not good. Having multiple +12V rails is not bad. Also, it has three, not two, +12V rails. The BP-550+ is also more reliable and has a longer warranty (3 years instead of 2). I'll admit that it doesn't look as nice, but I fail to see reason to get the Rosewill unit over it.
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February 15, 2013 4:42:01 AM

The first two are clearly not the same PSU as the third (just looking at the internal pictures shows that the first two are not the same as the third) and the third rated it highly and I quote from Google Translate "Internal workmanship is absolutely the first class". I fail to see your point.

Also, I'll add to that by saying that having the same components (assuming that they do) doesn't mean that they're the same quality if they aren't manufactured the same, which they clearly aren't. For example, some RAIDMAX PSUs have top-notch components, but are put together like crap and run much worse than some well-assembled PSUs that have inferior components.
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February 15, 2013 4:46:42 AM

Hi, you're in denial, the two are the same, both made by delta, the pictures show it, the antec bp 550 plus is a low end psu , it has in fact 32A on the total, it's really low for a 550W psu, it's a budget psu made by delta.
It doesn't mean it's a crappy psu, but it's not better than the rosewill green, but it's still inferior, i rather get the rosewill psu.
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February 15, 2013 4:47:53 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
"+3.3V@28A, +5V@26A, +12V1@22A, +12V2@22A, +12V3@25A, -12V@0.5A, +5VSB@2.5A"

Better to be in denial than to be wrong about the specs, mister "it has two rails +12V rails". Also:





Obviously not the same layout. I'll also take this opportunity to mention how Delta makes some of the best PSUs available. They're no Seasonic, but they make some excellent units.

EDIT: I just noticed the price went up and it's now only $55 with an MIR, so it's not the same price anymore (must have changed very recently because I was looking at it a few hours ago and it was $55 without an MIR).
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February 15, 2013 4:51:51 AM

Hi, the two rails will not add up to 44A if is that what you're thinking, it's the same internal parts, i fail to see why i'm lying when i'm right.
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February 15, 2013 4:53:09 AM

It has THREE rails for +12V. Furthermore even if its the same internal parts, that doesn't make it the same PSU. For example, RAIDMAX's 1000W Gold PSU has better components than most of the Bronze and Silver 1000W models by better companies, yet the shoddy assembly still makes it perform like crap. Components are only part of quality and one of your reviews, the one that's actually about it, explicitly states "first class workmanship".
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February 15, 2013 5:00:54 AM

properbuilds said:
Yes, the three rails, correction, it's usually a typical thing from delta, but it's way less than 40A in the total, the 2.2V has 32A.


Each of the three rails would need to be limited to less than half of max load to run at your predicted 32Amp number. They can go to at least 2/3 or 3/4 of max altogether. Besides, the BP-550+ is rated for up to about 44amps altogether on the +12V rails (states right on the box that it is rated for up to 534W total on the +12V rails), aka about the same as that Rosewill Green 530's rating.

Also, there is no 2.2V rail that I've ever heard of and if you meant 3.3, then IDC what it's rated for because it doesn't matter.

Furthermore, I know form my own use of the BP550+ that it can in fact go to at least 38Amps on the +12V rails because I've tested several units in several builds at that load.
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February 15, 2013 5:02:07 AM

You can do a bit better for $1k

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DE3Z
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DE3Z/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DE3Z/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N180UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.21 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($157.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $880.09
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-15 02:01 EST-0500)
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February 15, 2013 5:02:22 AM

blazorthon said:
Each of the three rails would need to be limited to less than half of max load to run at your predicted 32Amp number. They can go to at least 2/3 or 3/4 of max altogether. Besides, the BP-550+ is rated for up to about 44amps altogether on the +12V rails (states right on the box that it is rated for up to 534W total on the +12V rails), aka about the same as that Rosewill Green 530's rating.

Also, there is no 2.2V rail that I've ever heard of and if you meant 3.3, then IDC what it's rated for because it doesn't matter.

Furthermore, I know form my own use of the BP550+ that it can in fact go to at least 38Amps on the +12V rails because I've tested several units in several builds at that load.


I mean it's the ATX12V 2.2 version.
Just get it, that psu is a old model, and it isn't that good compared to some of the other psus around, and it's the same as the asus, so that review is valid.
Maybe you should do a review of it ? :lol: 
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February 15, 2013 5:03:28 AM

camohanna said:
You can do a bit better for $1k

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DE3Z
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DE3Z/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DE3Z/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N180UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.21 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($157.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $880.09
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-15 02:01 EST-0500)


Unless that Corsair model is a V3, I suggest against using it. The V2 CX/Builder series models have bad caps and the V1 models has all sorts of issues.
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February 15, 2013 5:07:04 AM

properbuilds said:
I mean it's the ATX12V 2.2 version.
Just get it, that psu is a old model, and it isn't that good compared to some of the other psus around, and it's the same as the asus, so that review is valid.
Maybe you should do a review of it ? :lol: 


At the least, their layouts are very different and that's not to even get into the potential for assembly differences. Besides, if they're the same, then why does your third link (the one that's about it) praise it so much while the first two (about a an Asus model you claim to be the same) don't?
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February 15, 2013 5:21:36 AM

blazorthon said:
At the least, their layouts are very different and that's not to even get into the potential for assembly differences. Besides, if they're the same, then why does your third link (the one that's about it) praise it so much while the first two (about a an Asus model you claim to be the same) don't?


The review doesn't praise it in the electrical performance, this all started with this :

blazorthon said:
I'd recommend going for the Antec BP-550 Plus over the Rosewill Green 530 for the same price (well, it's technically a few cents more expensive, but practically the same at just under $55). It has better reviews (both professional and customer) from what I can tell and the advantage of being modular for the same price is nice.



Where are the reviews in the first place and what makes it better than the rosewill green ? :pfff: 
So i just showed it's not.
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February 15, 2013 5:48:37 AM

properbuilds said:
The review doesn't praise it in the electrical performance, this all started with this :




Where are the reviews in the first place and what makes it better than the rosewill green ? :pfff: 
So i just showed it's not.


You did not show me that it's not better. Quite the opposite, in fact. The whole review that you gave a link to about it had nothing but praise for it.

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

EggXpert's list has the Antec Basiq models listed as higher quality.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-ma...
Some of the best PSUs are made by Delta as shown here.

As for consumer reviews, the Antec has fewer failures on Newegg despite having many more reviews in total and has a somewhat higher satisfaction rate. Also, the BP550+ is modular whereas the Rosewill Green 530 is not.

I'm still looking for my other links (it's been a while since I looked up this PSU) and if I find anything more, I'll also provide them.

Regardless, if still you're that adamant against it, then w/e. The Rosewill Green 530 is still a good model and there are other options too.
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February 15, 2013 1:39:46 PM

......... come back to very few people actually being of help while.. *certain others* argued over psu. Please use pm for that kind of stuff. Any thanks for the replys at least.
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February 15, 2013 2:26:00 PM

exkingb12 said:
......... come back to very few people actually being of help while.. *certain others* argued over psu. Please use pm for that kind of stuff. Any thanks for the replys at least.


Hi, i was trying to help, i linked a decent and overall good psu, since new rosewill green line is are good psus and the change for a 7870 XT, which has more shaders and overall is better than the standard 7870.
It's just that some try to change the psu for worse, and with more expenses.
You can always change for another like this one(this should end the discussion), it's a seasonic oem unit : http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb...
Good luck!
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