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February 15, 2013 8:15:21 AM


Approximate Purchase Date: next week
 
Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) $1100 after rebate
 
System Usage from Most to Least Important: video watching, gaming such as fps, rts, etc and photoshop
 
Are you buying a monitor: No
  
Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) **Include Power Supply Make & Model If Re-using**
 none
Do you need to buy OS: Yes
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.
 
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, ncix.com -- to show us selection & pricing)
 newegg, amazon
Location: City, State/Region, Country - souhern California
Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to upgrade to Intel CPU)
 asus, msi, etc as long it is good. I prefer reliability and quality
Overclocking: Yes
SLI or Crossfire: / Maybe
 
Your Monitor Resolution: (e.g.: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or if you're upgrading please state what you'd want to get)
 1920*1080
Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC. Please also list specific software or games you're using)
 
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: (e.g. I'm having trouble running game X or my PSU broke) new pc build after 8 years!

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February 15, 2013 8:17:10 AM

Parts to upgrade:all
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February 15, 2013 9:01:13 AM

This should be good for your needs.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($107.95 @ Mac Connection)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1049.81
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-15 06:01 EST-0500)
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February 15, 2013 10:59:29 AM

Rather than better or worse it's usually more useful to explain why. Personally i see nothing wrong with it. The mobo's you have linked of course will be better because they are $50 more expensive.

The 7870 XT is a reasonable choice, it does offer good performance at the price, but it is not the same power. It sits comfortably between the 7870 and the 7950. It uses the same architecture as the 7950 but the hardware isn't utilised to its full potential.

If you give reasoning behind your thoughts it can help the OP to make an informed choice rather than just giving opinions.
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February 15, 2013 11:19:14 AM

Has no one told you that size doesn't matter :lol: 

When you say better at low priced mobo's, you mean the ones you listed that are $50 more expensive?

Pro 4 and extreme 4 are better choices yes but they are also more expensive.

"AsRock have problem to delivery enough power to CPU and Memory." - Do you have some sources to show this because i've not heard of this issue?
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February 15, 2013 11:39:32 AM

Could you kindly link to the information? As i said i've not heard of it and if it's true i'd like to read into it.

Would you elaborate further on why size matters here? The mobo fits the case and can take the hardware, still i see no issue.

The fact that they come with 2 extra sata cables doesn't really justify $50 extra to me.

I suspect you could find forum posts complaining about all kinds of motherboards, even the top end ones. People rarely come to a forum to praise that their hardware is working, they post when they have a problem.
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February 15, 2013 12:00:40 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.56 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($107.95 @ Mac Connection)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($273.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($106.24 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1098.63
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-15 09:00 EST-0500)
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February 15, 2013 12:39:18 PM

Noob12 said:
Sure I can link to that test.

Here we go:

http://www.sf3d.fi/artikkelit/ASUS-vs-ASRock-Ylikellotu...

Hope you can read it. Google helps :) 


I can get the jist of it. Essentially the mobo struggles to supply power to the CPU when you are over clocking with largely increased voltages pushing the CPU up to ~4.8 ghz.

Essentially as long as you're not planning to do really large over clocks there's nothing wrong with the board. As this isn't a top end rig with custom water cooling i doubt the OP will be pushing for clocks as big as this, probably more around the norm of 4-4.3ghz i doubt this issue will become a problem.

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February 15, 2013 1:49:22 PM

Overclocking on any board or CPU will shorten the lifespan of the components.

"It makes no sense to buy substandard parts for the same price if you can get a better one at same price." - I agree entirely, but the boards you are suggesting are not the same price, they are $50 more, that's the point i'm trying to make.

The Xeon isn't faster it just has hyper threading enabled, which as we all know, does nothing for a gaming rig.
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February 16, 2013 5:50:03 AM

Thanks for reply,

Should I go for 660ti or 7950? Which card might be able to give me more future proof. Planning on using this system for 4years or so without upgrading
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February 16, 2013 6:25:23 AM

http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-ge...

Read this review, and choose the card according to the games you play... I chose the 660 Ti over the 7950 and i get 62fps Crysis 2 ULTRA!

Dont see the older reviews as that was when the 660 Ti drivers were not optimized... choose based on the review above ;) 
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February 16, 2013 6:54:57 AM

Personally i would go 7950 but as timarp has said you should base your choice on what games you play. One will do better in some while the other will do better in different games.
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February 16, 2013 8:49:17 AM

^^ Exactly!
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February 18, 2013 1:16:15 AM

Thanks,

got a few more questions:

1. what is the main difference between Z77X-UD3H and D3H?
2. for PSU, is 550W enough to power Geforce 660ti or do I need 650W? There's a 20% chance I might do SLI in the future such as using one card for dedicated physx.
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February 18, 2013 6:11:12 AM

550 is enough for one, aim for 750 for two. Just make sure it is a good quality PSU such as Seasonic, antec, xfx, pc p&c etc
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February 18, 2013 8:38:17 AM

tenchi155 said:
Thanks,

got a few more questions:

1. what is the main difference between Z77X-UD3H and D3H?
2. for PSU, is 550W enough to power Geforce 660ti or do I need 650W? There's a 20% chance I might do SLI in the future such as using one card for dedicated physx.

There isn't any noticeable difference between the UD3H and the D3H... go for the D3H

For a single 660 ti, a 450W is enough... And for SLI a 650 Is actually enough, but make sure you buy a good quality 650W power supply which has 4 PCIe power connectors... The 660 Ti and whole system needs 450W and a 660 Ti needs 150W so for SLI you will need 600W. If you are not OCing you will be fine, but if you are OCing and 750W would be better... The new corsair HX650 doesnt have 2 PCIe power connectors, so you cant use that for SLI but the old one (The one i have) Has 4 so i can do SLI! Also 450W means generic cheap ones... With a good 80+Bronze or higher you will be fine ;) 
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