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February 15, 2013 10:08:14 AM

Hi, I'm looking to build a computer.

I've opted to go for 2 DELL 2412M monitors which I have purchased from laptops direct.

I want the option of an extra graphics card slot should I need more monitors in the future but is not really necessary.

I have been in the www.boards.ie PC Building thread Triple Monitor Trading Computer

They are advising building a computer with parts from hardwareversand.de

I will prob buy parts from them because they do ex VAT to Ireland.


So basically I'm looking for a build with either an
i3 or i5 and
128 gb SSD hard drive...
4+gb ram(prob 8 if possible).
no need for OS.
cooler
case
decent mouse and keyboard

I'm a noob so whatever else I need too....

thanks
February 15, 2013 11:21:56 AM

so you want to a gaming rig that can play games with those 2 monitors?
Whats your budget
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a b C Monitor
February 15, 2013 11:50:09 AM
February 15, 2013 11:53:58 AM

oh wow lol didnt read the thread xD
February 15, 2013 11:59:57 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: within next month

Budget Range: 600 incl shipping or less ex VAT

System Usage from Most to Least Important: general office use, surfing web, watching movies, trading using esignal charts or general trading software

Are you buying a monitor: Yes I have purchased 2 DELL 2412M Ultrasharp monitors from laptopsdirect for 435 euro ex VAT.

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: people seem to recommend www.hardwareversand.de and they do ex VAT to Ireland but any other sites you recommend are good too once they are ex VAT to Ireland

Location: Dublin, Ireland

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU preferably i3 or i5

Overclocking: I'm not too sure what it is or if there is an advantage so maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Don't know what this is

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200 . 2 of these monitors DELL U2412M

Additional Comments: a quiet PC, no bling. good cooler and not a noisy fan

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Its a new build and will mostly be used for general office use, trading, movies. not really gaming as I prefer xbox so no to gaming.
February 15, 2013 12:08:51 PM



thanks. this all seems very good. what do you think about a cooler or fan and a case?

if I upgraded the processor to maybe i3 or i5 is there any point and would that change other things in the build?

Not sure if I need 2 1tb hard drives. maybe 1 500gb hard drive and keep the solid state 128gb or 256gb?

Getting excited now. This seems nicer build than what was suggested on www.boards.ie . You know your stuff ;) 
a b C Monitor
February 15, 2013 1:03:41 PM

you dont need an i3 or and i5 if your doing web and word and light aps. the g line of new ib cpu will pretty much eat up any word or light ap or photoshop. the i3 and i5 would be used if you were to get into light gaming. intel cpu come with a stock cooler that ok for day to day stuff. if you want a better cooler the evo 212 .
http://lb.hardwareversand.de/Intel+AMD/59387/Cooler+Mas...

http://lb.hardwareversand.de/Midi/63622/Corsair+Carbide...

http://lb.hardwareversand.de/Midi/50575/BitFenix+Merc+A...

the r300 is a better buy if you do start gaming the larger case let you put standard video cards into it. the cheaper case you have to be care full of the cpu cooler hight and gpu card length. on a new build it easy to buy two of the same drives and a good drive clone or back up software. hard drive fail and when they do if you dont have a good backup on a work/money making pc ouch.lot people use a cheap ext usb drive they have two faults i dont like..they use small power/usb boards inside..if the board dies if your lucky the drive will be fine...but you got pull the drive out to get the data off of them..the second is if your kids/spouse/pets knock the unit over...now have a hard drive head crash. you can buy this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and stick your back up drive in it. if you have small data and a good internet connection you could also do online cloud storage.
one up from having the drive in a hot swap case would be a small home nas for the house.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
something like these two disk systems to back your stuff up to.
on the power supply i used a model that know good unit here in the us. look at ps in your price range and see if anyone did a review on them. cheap power supply's can take out your rig when they fail. a lot of cheap ones cant out put there rated load.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWioBNHwwb4
for the ram look for 1600 ram at 1.5v with 9x timing.

a b C Monitor
February 15, 2013 1:14:43 PM

with the video card look for a unti that has two of the same ports you need. on pc the white ones are dvi ports. if your monitors have hdmi inputs you can pick up some dvi to hdmi cables. the only extra parts would be a tube of good thermal paste..a small case of computer screws and two extra sata cables...spares. some mb give you one/two cables.
Screw Kit Assorted Variety 68pcs SCR-K68
you never know when you need a jumper or a screw always better to by a little extra stuff when ordering the build. if the build going to be near you for a long part of the day..you may want to pick up one of these new low speed fans for the case you buy.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Fan-Noctua-Cooling-NF-...
the slower the fan can run the less white noise from the case. the same goes for the power supply...buy one with an active fan control and size it right. if it sized right the fan wont come on at all. the fan i listed they also make high end cpu coolers..if your looking for low noise.
February 15, 2013 1:46:20 PM

ok so this where I'm at. your original build looks fine. Processor and all seems good.

I'll basically stick with the fan it has and go with the dearer case you mentioned.

I'll prob back up to the cloud and keep one SSD 128GB and one 500GB HDD

One question.....theGraphics card appears cheap so I hope I'm getting the best from those monitors as they cost nearly as much as the computer?
And someone mentioned the motherboard needs to be SLI to support this graphics card?

Thanks for time and dedication
February 15, 2013 1:54:31 PM

I have a wireless printer so excuse my ignorance but will I be able to print to the wireless printer if the comp is wired in(ethernet cable) to router.
February 15, 2013 2:40:35 PM

ignore that last post. it should be fine. I'm presuming there is space for wireless card in any case for the future if needs be
a b C Monitor
February 15, 2013 9:31:29 PM

yep you need a wireless card for your printer and pc if you want to not have a hard wire pc. sli is nvidia name for a two card system set up. crossfire is amd/ati name for two card system. sli/crosfire is used for people that going to run high end games and use low end or mid end cards to get the same or close of one main card. gpu card running web aps and two monitors wont get stressed that much. if you want to add some room in your build if you want to game..the 7770/650ti will game and are faster then the card i posted. the next level cards up is the amd 7850/7870 and the nvidia 660/660ti. these card run around 200-250. for the gpu. nvidia cores are called cuda cores. the gt 640 has 384/650 same. the 650ti has 768. the 660 has 960 and the 660ti has 1344. as you go up the product list for nvidia and amd the cards as you can see get twice as fast due to more cores. more cores more work the gpu can do with each clock cycle. also with more costly cards some of them have larger bus with. think of it as a starting with a one lane road. (64bit). then two lane road (128) bit. (256) (3xx) (512). the trick with a video card in a build is uying the card for your needs and getting the best card for the money. right now amd cards have better value for the perforce you get.some nvidia cards have max of two monitors per card..some amd cards you can have up to 6 monitors on one cards. when you buy higher end video card you also have the extra cost of installing a larger power supply to handle the load of the gpu and cpu. on a power supply is not the total wattage of the ps it the wattage and amp rating of the 12v rail. to low and ps wont start or it lock up or cause your system shut down.
February 18, 2013 4:17:04 PM

this is where I'm at now. Nearly complete.

Any more opinions:

[TABLE]Item|Price
8GB Corsair Vengeance Low Profile schwarz PC3-12800U CL9-9-9-24|€43.91
FRACTAL DESIGN Gehäuse Define Mini|€84.00
Samsung SH-224BB bare schwarz|€16.99
Intel Core i3-3225 Box, LGA1155|€115.57
Super Flower 400W Golden Green Pro 80plus|€58.99
ASRock B75 Pro3-M, Sockel 1155, mATX|€58.79
Crucial M4 256GB SSD 6,4cm (2,5")|€173.24
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€570.48[/TABLE]

Will this motherboard support 2 Ultrasharp DELL U2412M monitors?


I presume I need all power cables and what not?
a b C Monitor
February 18, 2013 11:54:01 PM

look under the mb vendor info..download the mb guild. it tell you if the mb can turn on two ports at the same time.
February 19, 2013 8:03:03 AM

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B75%20Pro3-M/

It says Multi VGA Output options : D-Sub, DVI-D, HDMI so I'll take that as a yes


100% All Solid Capacitor Design
Supports Dual Channel DDR3 2200(OC)
1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 Slot, Supports AMD Quad CrossFireX™, CrossFireX™
PCIE Gigabit LAN
Supports Intel® HD Graphics with Built-in Visuals
Multi VGA Output options : D-Sub, DVI-D, HDMI
Combo Cooler Option (C.C.O.)
7.1 CH HD Audio with Content Protection (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec), Supports THX TruStudio™
Supports ASRock XFast RAM, XFast LAN, XFast USB, OMG, Internet Flash, On/Off Play, Dehumidifier, UEFI System Browser
Supports Intel® Smart Connect, Intel® Rapid Start, Intel® Small Business Advantage
Free Bundle : CyberLink MediaEspresso 6.5 Trial, ASRock MAGIX Multimedia Suite
February 19, 2013 8:08:08 AM

http://lb.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=7273...
8GB Corsair Vengeance Low Profile schwarz PC3-12800U CL9-9-9-24|€43.91
http://lb.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=4919... FRACTAL DESIGN Gehäuse Define Mini|€84.00
http://lb.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=6744... Samsung SH-224BB bare schwarz|€16.99
http://lb.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=6635... Core i3-3225 Box, LGA1155|€115.57
http://lb.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=5085... Super Flower 400W Golden Green Pro 80plus|€58.99
http://lb.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=5930... ASRock B75 Pro3-M, Sockel 1155, mATX|€58.79
http://lb.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=4611... Crucial M4 256GB SSD 6,4cm (2,5")|€173.24
Shipping|€18.99
Total €570.48


Any last opinions.

1. Any preference on the SSD. Sandisk, Crucial M4 or Samsung?
2. Is all this compatible e.g. mboard, case, components?
3. Am I missign anything that I need to have this working out of the box?

Thanks again for all the help. This is my first build so hopefully it goes well and I'll post photos
a b C Monitor
February 19, 2013 8:12:40 AM

1. Not sandisk, m4 or samsung 840 pro or 830 is fine.
2. Everything looks to be compatible from what i can see.
3. You should be good to go.
February 19, 2013 8:19:12 AM

mikerockett said:
1. Not sandisk, m4 or samsung 840 pro or 830 is fine.
2. Everything looks to be compatible from what i can see.
3. You should be good to go.


This will be a 64 bit machine then? so Windows 8 64 bit will be the OS.

thanks
February 19, 2013 9:55:46 AM

changed the PSU to this http://lb.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=5112... based on others opinions



I have everything in the basket ready to order but will wait 24 hours to see if anyone has any further opinions here. thanks

I might just go for a 128GB SSD and save 100 euro. I think I won't need huge amount of space and can use an external drive or cloud if needs be.



February 19, 2013 2:20:53 PM

any decent mouse + keyboard(wired preferably) deals?
February 19, 2013 8:04:12 PM

got these:

7 Piece Screwdriver Tool Kit
G400 Optical Gaming Mouse
Keyboard K200 for Business
SPHEX GAMING MOUSE MAT
March 14, 2013 6:59:37 AM

receiving computer tomorrow. any tips on assembly or its straightforward to do?
a b C Monitor
March 14, 2013 7:07:01 AM

It's quite straightforward but if it's your first time you should probably watch some of the video tutorials available. Easy enough to find, just a quick search in google or youtube.
March 14, 2013 7:13:39 AM

mikerockett said:
It's quite straightforward but if it's your first time you should probably watch some of the video tutorials available. Easy enough to find, just a quick search in google or youtube.


ye first time so I got some guide from gizmodo I think. I'm sure most things are plug and go. If you follow any guides please advise. thanks

a b C Monitor
March 14, 2013 7:19:29 AM

I don't follow any i'm afraid, i've built enough to get on and go. Most things are plug in and thats it. Main areas to watch out for are fitting the CPU, fitting the heatsink, and remember to install the mobo stand offs.

Here's a thread from Tom's on step by step building.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...
April 5, 2013 6:57:10 AM

thanks to everyone. building wasn't too bad and the computer is super fast. those monitors are amazing! cheers
!