New build - should i go value or performance

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hilalpro

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i have around for a new rig.. i came up with 2 builds

3570k 224USD
Gigabyte LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP 116USD
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR 54USD
XFX CORE Edition HD7850 860MHz 2GB DDR5 2x Mini DisplayPort/HDMI/2xDVI Graphics Card FX785ACNL4 190USD
OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS 120GB SATA 6Gb/s VTX3MI-25SAT3-120G 2.5" Solid State Drive (SSD)with up to 550MB/s read 90USD
XIGMATEK Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition CPU Cooler with Stealth Aerospace Industry Thermal conductive 47USD
Rosewill CAPSTONE Series 450W 80 Plus GoldAC Certified Modular ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply CAPSTONE-450-M 80USD
Rosewill Dual Fans MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case FBM-01 30usd

total - 831usd
final pocket total - 1122usd


this is my other build where i plan on just using my current 7200rpm hard drive

3470 184USD
AS Rock LGA1155 Intel Z77 CrossFireX SATA3 USB3.0 A GbE ATX Motherboard Z77 PRO3 90USD
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR 54USD
HIS H775F1GD Radeon HD 7750 1GB (128bit) GDDR5 Displayport HDMI DVI (HDCP) PCI Express X16 3.0 Graphics Cards 90USD
Rosewill Black ATX Computer Case with 500-Watt Power Supply R519-BK 70usd

total - 488usd
final pocket - 686usd

i have the pocket budget for the second build. i will probably have to save up for 4 to 6 month's if i choose the first one..

which one will you pick if you were in this situation ?
 
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My personal thoughts are to go with quality / longevity. To that end, the first build is superior with some definite changes. First, I do not trust OCZ Sandforce drives. Online forums are filled of tales of woe associated with these drives; it isn't a risk I'm willing to take.
Second, although the Capstone is a good PSU, 450W may be a little small to last. For a PSU that should last through at least one or two graphics card upgrades over a 5+ year period, I'd look to something in the 500W-550W range. Of course, if you don't anticipate any upgrades, it may be fine.
You may wish to mix and match between the two. Do not use the cheap Rosewill PSU that comes in the case though; years ago Rosewill had a horrible reputation for PSUs...

hilalpro

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lol, i also don't to be honest. ivy will probably get replaced by next summer and it's successor will probably also come with an integrated gpu that is around that hd 7750 performance
 

hilalpro

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this is another way to put it.

in your opinion does 436usd worth

the extra 15% cpu performance
40% gpu performance
ssd
and a more reliable PSU

i'm really indecisive right now.
 

Supermuncher85

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edit: nevermind I was blind. The k is overcloackable so I think it's worth it. At least gives you some more years out of the CPU. As for GPU that depends on how much you game. I wouldn't skimp on the GPU. Nothing worse than building a solid system and then not being able to enjoy the games you want cause you saved a few bucks.
 

hilalpro

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the problem is if i wait, 4 or 5 more month's i could potentially get the socket and the new K cpu but a hd 6850 would still worth getting over a gt3 but if i don't wait and get the second build i would not appreciate the gt3 beating that 7750 for way less money not to mention quicksync lower power consumption and all the other goods..
 
My personal thoughts are to go with quality / longevity. To that end, the first build is superior with some definite changes. First, I do not trust OCZ Sandforce drives. Online forums are filled of tales of woe associated with these drives; it isn't a risk I'm willing to take.
Second, although the Capstone is a good PSU, 450W may be a little small to last. For a PSU that should last through at least one or two graphics card upgrades over a 5+ year period, I'd look to something in the 500W-550W range. Of course, if you don't anticipate any upgrades, it may be fine.
You may wish to mix and match between the two. Do not use the cheap Rosewill PSU that comes in the case though; years ago Rosewill had a horrible reputation for PSUs, and units like that one are why. The new Capstone and Hive units are excellent, and even the RG units aren't bad, but the old ones should be avoided.
I would select a HD7770 or GTX650Ti as a comfortable minimum for games, although the HD7750 should let you at least sample anything out there. Expect considerably reduced settings unless your resolution is only 1366x768.
Which CPU you get should depend in part on your willingness and desire to overclock (if not now, then in the future). Honestly, it seems unreasonable to me to think any core-i5 Ivy Bridge chip will become insufficient any time soon, whether or not it is an unlocked "K" model.
 
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