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First Time Build - Gaming Budget $700.

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February 16, 2013 3:57:17 PM

Hey guys,

Im putting together a build and it will be my first build ever. Kind of excited however it sucks that im on a budget. Heres the following i put together. I want to start of with a base build but as i hopefully land a job out of college, this will be my little project that i will keep adding to. Ill list a reason for each selection however I would really like suggestions for them as well.

Case - Rosewill THOR V2-W -$139 on Amazon.
- I chose this cuz of the expansion ability and the included fans. I really would like any cheaper suggestions as will but a USB 3.0 front is a must.
(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005XUAAP2/ref=ox_sc_a...)

Motherboard - ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 Motherboard - $139.
- I picked this cuz its a decent motherboard, covers all the req i need plus it comes with a 8GB Vengeance DDR3 RAM chip. I dont think i need much RAM for starters and its cheap and i can add it back in couple of months later. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

HDD - Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM - $79.00
- Cheap, enough to get me started. Im gonna be saving up for a SSD and then move this for extra storage.
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

GPU - HIS iCooler H775F1GD Radeon HD 7750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 - $89
-Again decent enough for my current gaming. I would be willing to sacrifice the HDD and upgrade this as i have a spare 750gb HDD at home.
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - $99.
- Cheap, fast and still reliable.
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

Power Supply - Rosewill HIVE-750 750W 80 Plus Bronze ATX12V Certified Power Supply - $89
- cheap, powerful.
(http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005ILWYT6/?tag=pcpapi-20)

Subtotal - $634
February 16, 2013 4:02:02 PM

that CPU and motherboard do not go together, and that power supply is overkill. Wait a few mins, I can show you a better build
February 16, 2013 4:04:25 PM

Your spending too much on the case and motherboard. The PSU is complete overkill. What's your budget?
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February 16, 2013 4:06:16 PM

realchaos said:
Your spending too much on the case and motherboard. The PSU is complete overkill. What's your budget?


Well i wanted to get those so i have room for expansion later as i will be continuing to build on this. As for right now, my budget is $700.
February 16, 2013 4:09:23 PM

plasmaj12345 said:
that CPU and motherboard do not go together, and that power supply is overkill. Wait a few mins, I can show you a better build


I appreciate it. However i got this setup because like i said, i want to be able to add stuff later on.
February 16, 2013 4:11:21 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.21 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.64 @ Newegg)
Total: $660.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-16 13:10 EST-0500)

Alot better than your build. How much expansion do you plan to do?

Plasma has a really solid build. Get his instead.
February 16, 2013 4:13:09 PM

Not sure if you neede RAM so I added that too.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($133.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Line ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $663.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-16 13:12 EST-0500)
February 16, 2013 4:15:23 PM

plasmaj12345 said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DTLt

Get this, also you forgot RAM in the op. If you already have dual channel 8GB of 1600 DDR3, you can save $50 from the list I provided.



Would i need a fan with this?
February 16, 2013 4:15:43 PM

rsinghtoor said:
I appreciate it. However i got this setup because like i said, i want to be able to add stuff later on.


I hope you realize that AMD CPU's do not fit into Intel Socketed motherboards. They are incompatible components. Plus, there isn't a lot to add on that isn't replacing current parts. The motherboard and case I provided has enough room to store multiple SSD's and/ or HDD's and you can even Crossfire two GPU"s or add on a sound card at a later time. By the time you add on more components, you are better off just upgrading your current components (such as your power supply so that you can crossfire at a later time)
February 16, 2013 4:17:35 PM

rsinghtoor said:
Would i need a fan with this?


You do not, however the FX 6300 may bottleneck in some games, so having the option to overclock the CPU carefully is good and may prevent your CPU from bottlenecking the GPU. Unless you have a Microcenter nearby, the intel i5's are too expensive and would cause to have to get a weaker Graphics card like the 7850. Its better to spend much more on the GPU then on the CPU, as long as no major bottlenecks occur.
February 16, 2013 4:19:47 PM

plasmaj12345 said:
I hope you realize that AMD CPU's do not fit into Intel Socketed motherboards. They are incompatible components. Plus, there isn't a lot to add on that isn't replacing current parts. The motherboard and case I provided has enough room to store multiple SSD's and/ or HDD's and you can even Crossfire two GPU"s or add on a sound card at a later time. By the time you add on more components, you are better off just upgrading your current components (such as your power supply so that you can crossfire at a later time)


Yea when i picked that, i was actually looking at some i7s. Yea, i just wanted to add a SSD later on and maybe crossfire two GPUs. You think the FX would be good enough, i dont want bottleneck
February 16, 2013 4:22:22 PM

It might bottleneck if you crossfire. On the 7870 XT, it might a little. Consider overclocking a bit so you won't bottleneck. He added in the hyper 212 cooler for a reason :) 
February 16, 2013 4:26:33 PM

What about taking in this CPU?

AMD FX-8150 8-Core Black Edition Processor Socket AM3+ FD8150FRGUBOX
February 16, 2013 4:29:18 PM

rsinghtoor said:
Yea when i picked that, i was actually looking at some i7s. Yea, i just wanted to add a SSD later on and maybe crossfire two GPUs. You think the FX would be good enough, i dont want bottleneck


Only get an i7 later on if you are video editing and are willing to get a new motherboard in addition to paying a lot more. Games do not take advantage of the hyperthreads in the i7 vs. the i5. We assume you are trying to make a gaming build as most people on this site do. As for crossfire, you can either spend a little more now and buy a 750w 80+ power supply or buy another power supply (750w) when it comes down to crossfiring. However, you may find it better to just upgrade your card to a single card setup when the time comes for an upgrade.
February 16, 2013 4:29:31 PM

realchaos said:
It might bottleneck if you crossfire. On the 7870 XT, it might a little. Consider overclocking a bit so you won't bottleneck. He added in the hyper 212 cooler for a reason :) 


Absolutely no bottleneck will be present. The FX 6300 is plenty CPU for even Tri-SLI/CrossFire. I had an old Phenom II X4 925 OC'd to 3.5 GHz running 560 Ti's in SLI. No bottleneck present.
February 16, 2013 4:31:28 PM

rsinghtoor said:
What about taking in this CPU?

AMD FX-8150 8-Core Black Edition Processor Socket AM3+ FD8150FRGUBOX



NO. Its last gen and performs below the phenom II processors (hence the nickname for the architecture Faildozer). The FX 6300 is current gen and is a competent CPU. However, the 8350 is good if you are willing to shell out a bit more money.
February 16, 2013 4:32:34 PM

FX-8150 is a bulldozer cpu. The FX-6300 is a piledriver. The FX-6300 is newer and preforms better.
February 16, 2013 4:33:39 PM

plasmaj12345 said:
NO. Its last gen and performs below the phenom II processors (hence the nickname for the architecture Faildozer). The FX 6300 is current gen and is a competent CPU. However, the 8350 is good if you are willing to shell out a bit more money.

If he's willing to dish out $200 on a the 8350, it's probably a better idea to get an i5 instead.
February 16, 2013 4:34:59 PM

realchaos said:
If he's willing to dish out $200 on a the 8350, it's probably a better idea to get an i5 instead.


that's true for gaming, unless he/she's into video editing, where the 8350>i5
February 16, 2013 4:37:03 PM

plasmaj12345 said:
NO. Its last gen and performs below the phenom II processors (hence the nickname for the architecture Faildozer). The FX 6300 is current gen and is a competent CPU. However, the 8350 is good if you are willing to shell out a bit more money.


Oh ok. the reason i asked was because it was $20 more for the 8150
February 16, 2013 4:38:16 PM

plasmaj12345 said:
that's true for gaming, unless he/she's into video editing, where the 8350>i5


Yea i wont be doing any video editing.
February 16, 2013 4:38:25 PM

plasmaj12345 said:
that's true for gaming, unless he/she's into video editing, where the 8350>i5


Yea i wont be doing any video editing.
February 16, 2013 4:43:59 PM

Stick with plasmaj original build with the fx-6300 then.
February 16, 2013 5:03:35 PM

yeah... whomever said the 6300 will bottleneck doesn't know what they're talking about.

A beastly GPU > then a beastly CPU these days. rarely do you need much more then an i3/FX x3xx /a10/PhII x4-x6 for gameplay from your CPU. and the little bottlenecking you might get from a lower end CPU can usually be overcome by a little overclocking, or a better GPU.

So when you're working with a budget (less then 700 for example) the idea is to get the cheapest CPU you can that will give you the best bang for the buck performance wise... and spend all the saved cash on a higher end GPU... Right now the Tahiti core 7870 LE are going for less then $210 on newegg... which is the steal of the century.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Obviously when money is no concern, getting a better CPU will give you some moderate improvements in gameplay... but the difference in frame rates will be almost negligible either way.
February 16, 2013 5:40:03 PM

I appreciate all the help guys. As this is my very first build. Do you guys have any tips or any links to tutorials that could be useful? Thanks
February 16, 2013 5:43:45 PM

Watch the newegg tv how to build a computer part 1 2 and 3. That's what I watched before I built my first build and it made it really easy.
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