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February 16, 2013 11:39:32 PM

This will be my first attempt at building a PC. I plan to make my order in the next week or so, that way I can build it while I am on spring break.

I am not a hardware expert by no means but I have been reading quite a bit for the past few weeks so if I have made a an ignorant or bonehead choice about something, I thought this would be a good place to figure that out.

I am not a huge PC gamer but I do want to have the capability to play something in the rare case that I take a notion to do so, although I am not a first person shooter fan at all, nor do I need the ability to run Crysis at full capability either. I will mostly be do web design, coding, watching video and all the other stuff that people do. The one thing that I really hope to do it run dual monitors and have a TV hooked up as well so essentially triple monitors, and I think I have chosen the proper MOBO and video card.

Anyway, I would love to hear some thoughts and/or suggestions.

I was kind of hoping to stay under $800 but I am a bit over that.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DYuB

Edit:

Here is what I have come up with now. My price continues to creep but I don't care as long as I stay under $1000. I just don't want to put something together and then be disappointed a few months later, or see something that I should/would have went with had I noticed it. I do plan to order by the end of the week so I have to make up my mine in the next few days.

Here is what I have now. I may kick out the RAM since the MOBO comes with 8GB as a promo.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/EiVW

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February 17, 2013 12:37:29 AM

I really like that card but not so much the price tag. It looks like with a few of your other suggestions, I can stay close to my range if I go with that card. I know I would not have any trouble running three monitors with that one. That's for sure.

As far as the CPU, why i5 over A10? I have always been very happy with AMD products.

What about the SSD? I was trying to find things with a lot of good ratings and seems like it does not have that many, but of course that does not mean it is not good. Think it will be as good as many of the others?

Care to discuss why you chose the NZXT case over the one I listed? They are the same price so what makes that one better? I only ask because I do not know.

I was hoping to buy everything at newegg but with some of those prices elsewhere, it would be silly do to that.

Thanks for the input!
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February 17, 2013 12:41:15 AM

thats a great psu for a great price...dont change that
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February 17, 2013 12:48:04 AM

wevie13 said:
I really like that card but not so much the price tag. It looks like with a few of your other suggestions, I can stay close to my range if I go with that card. I know I would not have any trouble running three monitors with that one. That's for sure.

As far as the CPU, why i5 over A10? I have always been very happy with AMD products.

What about the SSD? I was trying to find things with a lot of good ratings and seems like it does not have that many, but of course that does not mean it is not good. Think it will be as good as many of the others?

Care to discuss why you chose the NZXT case over the one I listed? They are the same price so what makes that one better? I only ask because I do not know.

I was hoping to buy everything at newegg but with some of those prices elsewhere, it would be silly do to that.

Thanks for the input!


The i5 is a far better cpu, much, much better than the A10.
The samsung 840 as tlc nand which is inferior to ssd with mlc nand, the plextor m5s has mlc nand, it will have more durability and it will be faster under heavy load.
If you need to cut the price a little down, get a 128GB ssd, depending on the games that you play, the 7850 might be worth it to you.
The nzxt source 220 is a solid quality case, it's just my preference for the case.
The XFX 550 core edition is a seasonic oem psu, so you'll have a good psu, but cheaper.
Like this : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DZPE
And the rest of the stuff in ncix us for about 753.50$
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February 17, 2013 12:52:24 AM

ARICH5 said:
thats a great psu for a great price...dont change that


The one I chose? I really liked that one because of the ratings and because it is modular. The one that djangoringo suggested is not and I would rather stay away from one that is not. I don't really want a bunch of extra cables laying around.
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February 17, 2013 12:54:31 AM

So you want a modular psu, both are seasonic psus, but the one you have in the list is modular, the xfx isn't.
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February 17, 2013 1:03:31 AM

i meant you dont see many psu's that are gold certified for under 100$
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February 17, 2013 1:07:38 AM

Actually, there's the capstone 650M for 75$ in newegg, it's made by super flower and it's gold certified and modular, but the gold certification make little difference vs bronze certification.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrel...
But if he wants a modular quality psu, the seasonic is a good choice.
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February 17, 2013 1:29:53 AM

djangoringo said:
The i5 is a far better cpu, much, much better than the A10.
The samsung 840 as tlc nand which is inferior to ssd with mlc nand, the plextor m5s has mlc nand, it will have more durability and it will be faster under heavy load.
If you need to cut the price a little down, get a 128GB ssd, depending on the games that you play, the 7850 might be worth it to you.
The nzxt source 220 is a solid quality case, it's just my preference for the case.
The XFX 550 core edition is a seasonic oem psu, so you'll have a good psu, but cheaper.
Like this : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DZPE
And the rest of the stuff in ncix us for about 753.50$


Like I said, I have always went with AMD in the computers I have purchased mainly because of the price and they have never let me down.

This time, while price is a factor, it is more about speed, performance, etc. I had originally chose the Trinity and the MOBO because of the integrated graphics. I thought maybe I would just do without a card but then figured if I am going to build one, I should try to build a good one.

Anyway, the i5 and the board you pointed out actually a bit cheaper than the Trinity and the board I picked out.

What makes the i5 so much better?
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February 17, 2013 1:35:43 AM

The i5 is a much faster cpu, there's no comparison with the apu as for cpu choice, the apu doesn't even have l3 cache, even the X4 965 BE is a better cpu than the A10-5800K, the i5 is better than the FX-6300 or even the FX-8350 in most cases.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/675?vs=702

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-83...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-83...

Since you'll have a discrete gpu, it invalidates the use of the apu, since there're better cpus out there, i would go with the i5.
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February 17, 2013 2:01:32 AM

I would say you're looking pretty good, but dump that pricey power supply and get a cheapy in the $30-$40 range and use that left over $50 for another 8Gb of RAM. I promise you that any $30 ps is as good as any $90 ps and you'll appreciate that extra RAM, big time!
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February 17, 2013 2:36:02 AM

My original plan was to go with 16GB of RAM but I had several people tell me that it is unnecessary. That has been something I have been debating about. I thought if anything else I would grab a couple more sticks later.

Suggestions on a modular PSU? I am looking now.

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February 17, 2013 2:47:35 AM

What does semi-modualr mean? Some unhook and some does not?
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February 17, 2013 2:56:14 AM

Yes, the semi-modular has two cables fixed(which are necessary anyway) :
1x 20+4-Pin Main Connector
1x 4+4-Pin ATX12V/EPS12V Connector
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February 17, 2013 5:21:30 PM

So with the advice of djangoringo I have an i5 build and also have the one I originally posted with the Trinity. Anyone have any further thoughts on either of these? As of right now, I am leaning toward the i5.

i5
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/E0yd

A10 Trinity
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DYuB

And I am still considering the Capstone PSU. It just worries me a bit since here are not a lot of reviews on it.
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February 17, 2013 5:28:26 PM

Do you really need the 256GB ssd ? and like i said it depends on the games that you'll play, but the i5+7850 is miles better that the apu build, but you can drop for a 128GB ssd and get the 7870 tahiti le if you want to play some demanding games at 1080p, also a psu within 450-500W will do, get the capstone 450M or 650M(with the rebate).
Review : http://www.anandtech.com/show/5698/rosewill-capstone-45...
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February 17, 2013 6:31:55 PM

djangoringo said:
Do you really need the 256GB ssd ? and like i said it depends on the games that you'll play, but the i5+7850 is miles better that the apu build, but you can drop for a 128GB ssd and get the 7870 tahiti le if you want to play some demanding games at 1080p, also a psu within 450-500W will do, get the capstone 450M or 650M(with the rebate).
Review : http://www.anandtech.com/show/5698/rosewill-capstone-45...



I don't necessarily need a 256GB SSD drive, but I don't want to end up regret not getting one later on if I end up adding a few more programs or games on it than I think I will now so I figured since the price difference isn't huge, I would just go on and grab it. Plus, when I first looked at that Samsung a couple of weeks ago, it had a promo code for $150.

I play a very limited amount of games on a PC. I don't see myself ever playing anything super demanding. I think the card you pointed out should be more than enough.

Those Capstones do look nice.
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February 17, 2013 6:39:57 PM

Well if you can afford the 256GB ssd get it.
Yes, the capstone are quality psus made by super flower.
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February 17, 2013 11:30:54 PM

Another thing to consider. I may also be interested in overclocking later on and I noticed that the i5 card is locked. Doesn't that mean it cannot be overclocked? Is there something that compares to it in performance and price that can be overclocked?
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February 18, 2013 2:53:26 PM

The i5-3470 can reach 3.6 ghz with turbo boost, and it's possible to raise more 4 bins, so it can raised up to 4.0 ghz, it's not bad, you'll not need more, specially with a 7850.
You can get it here : http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3470-Quad-Core-Proc...
I wouldn't go with the i5-2500k, if you really want an unlocked cpu get the i5-3570k, but prepare to spend more 30-35$ on a cpu cooler and a z75(the asrock z75 suggested will do) or z77 motherboard, so just get the i5-3470.
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February 18, 2013 3:14:59 PM

djangoringo said:
The i5-3470 can reach 3.6 ghz with turbo boost, and it's possible to raise more 4 bins, so it can raised up to 4.0 ghz, it's not bad, you'll not need more, specially with a 7850.
You can get it here : http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3470-Quad-Core-Proc...
I wouldn't go with the i5-2500k, if you really want an unlocked cpu get the i5-3570k, but prepare to spend more 30-35$ on a cpu cooler and a z75(the asrock z75 suggested will do) or z77 motherboard, so just get the i5-3470.



If I were to go with the 3570 and get a cooler, what cooler would you suggest?
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February 18, 2013 3:27:06 PM

CM hyper plus or evo, don't forget it must be the i5-3570k.
You have to see if it's worth the extra cost, if you're really planning to overclocking to past 4 ghz or using demanding applications, because for a 7850 or the things that you listed i don't think it's worth the i5-3570k over the i5-3470, but it's your choice.
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February 18, 2013 3:57:23 PM

Yes, if you want to overclock, it's a good motherboard, though, the asrock z77 extreme 4 is cheaper without rebates, you'll have to pay shipping for that board.
Seems a nice find the ssd, but you don't need 16GB of ram, 8GB is plenty, you're overspending a bit.
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February 19, 2013 1:34:34 AM

well. I suppose this case is closed, for now anyway. I just placed my order for all of the components.

I will be building this while I am on spring break which is the first full week in March. Wish me luck!

And thanks a bunch to you djangoringo! Your input has been very valuable.
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February 19, 2013 1:43:26 AM

Well, if you already bought all the parts, good luck with your build.
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February 19, 2013 1:53:05 AM

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