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February 17, 2013 5:27:15 PM

I want to build a little system with a handle on I can transport around to use with dual static monitors and TVs.

Foxconn RS224 case with 150W PSU
MSI B75MA-E33 mother board
i3-3225 with HD4000 graphics ?
16GB DDR3 Ram Too much?
128gb SSD Best make for longevity?
500GB WD Velociraptor 10K
Xigmatek Praeton CPU fan
SN-208B Blu-Ray DVD

Priced this at 485 from various sources.

Radeon 7750 graphics an option.

As I swore of MS so it will have to be Ubuntu.

Use would be internet browsing with lots of tabs open, or image processing of astronomical videos and 12gb images, and maybe some gaming.

Are these compatible? Current best performing option in the price bracket?

And best priced sources.

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a c 136 B Homebuilt system
February 17, 2013 5:34:37 PM

I think 150 watts is very marginal even b4 you fit a graphics card

The case is Mini-ITX
The motherboard is a much larger m-ATX unit
and will NOT fit

The velociraptor is expensive and pointless since you have an SSD . For data storage use a more conventional HDD
February 17, 2013 6:34:21 PM

Hi,

Oh.
Is a Chieftek Fi-01W with 200w power supply the right size?

I based the list on a thread here which had that case for the MB.
The Foxconn picture looked like the same case.

So a 5400rpm drive would do?

Also I would do some PHP MY-SQL Wordpress development.

I already have an external 500gb USB drive for storing Images and so on.
And 1TB Android media boxes are cheap.

Could I view 1080p video on a TV and use the monitor for browsing, development or gaming at the same time?

Thanks. Andrew.


andieshandyhandies said:
I want to build a little system with a handle on I can transport around to use with dual static monitors and TVs.

Foxconn RS224 case with 150W PSU
MSI B75MA-E33 mother board
i3-3225 with HD4000 graphics ?
16GB DDR3 Ram Too much?
128gb SSD Best make for longevity?
500GB WD Velociraptor 10K
Xigmatek Praeton CPU fan
SN-208B Blu-Ray DVD

Priced this at 485 from various sources.

Radeon 7750 graphics an option.

As I swore of MS so it will have to be Ubuntu.

Use would be internet browsing with lots of tabs open, or image processing of astronomical videos and 12gb images, and maybe some gaming.

Are these compatible? Current best performing option in the price bracket?

And best priced sources.

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a c 136 B Homebuilt system
February 17, 2013 6:58:55 PM

The chieftec is the same size case

Its the motherboard that needs to be smaller to fit

Search on newegg for mini-ITX motherboards and the difference will be immediately obvious when you compare to the micro ATX motherboard in your list

For mini ITX the bitfenix prodigy is a great choice . Its bigger than most and can fit desktop hardware and power supply but its still portable

But if you want a quality small more conventional case then Silverstone make a few models with 300 watt psu's
February 17, 2013 7:11:19 PM

You have some critical issues to work out before you start building:

1) Your case is mini-ITX and your mobo is micro-ATX. Your mobo is too big for your case. Replace with either a mini-ITX mobo or a micro-ATX case.

2) 150 W is about half of what you need just to run the hardware you've listed. For what you've listed, I'd recommend at least 350W. Refer to the Newegg PSU calculator: http://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell/tool/psucalc/index...
February 18, 2013 6:03:25 AM

This is the thread I saw

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/mini-itx-gaming-radeon-hd...

I have miss-copied the MB, it was a B75IA-E33. Must have got a search wrong.

I tried to find watts used for each component from specs and even with the Radeon 7750 it came to just under 150w.

So:

Foxconn RS224 case with 150W PSU
MSI B75IA-E33 mother board
i3-3225 with HD4000 graphics Good real world performance
16GB DDR3 Ram All computers have swap file issues so far!
128gb SSD Best make for longevity?
1gb HDD rpm? Biggest write buffer?
Xigmatek Praeton CPU fan
SN-208B Blu-Ray DVD

What I will be running:
Ubuntu (or Windows (?VM))
20 browser tabs at least or PHP MY-SQL WOrdpress development or Astronomy image processing of video or 12mb images
Skype
Mozilla email
TV feed, or game WRX or MotoGP

Thanks for the help. Andrew.

February 18, 2013 7:16:52 AM

Hi,

Doing some research:
http://codemonkey.ravelry.com/2011/05/09/so-you-want-to...
Whats the difference between MLC and SLC? Price per GB and SLC more wriites. Manage writes to go to HDD. I will not be writing much data to keep.

I am looking at this SSD giving up a bit of space and adding write buffer protection
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-SSD-Series-9-5mm-G3-MLC/d...

Cheap?
http://pricespy.co.uk/product.php?p=844281

With this SSD do I still need to put swap file and temp files on HDD? Or use second SSD and replace as needed?

Compromise for slow disk and low heat output
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://gizmodo.com/5886057/seagate-momentus-xt-solid-st...

or simpler and bigger
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-HD103SI-5400rpm-Interna...

Get a cheap Android 1TB media box for 50 quid for second copy.

Thanks. Andrew.
February 18, 2013 10:36:45 AM

Hi,

My research on watts:

55 I3
16 16GB
3 SSD
6 HDD
8 BR/DVD
20 MOBO?

108 Total
February 18, 2013 5:58:16 PM

In the original article without the graphics card it was pulling about 71w at full power by my calculation:

112-80 = 22 + 49 = 71 so half 150w
February 18, 2013 6:27:07 PM

Outlander_04 said:

The velociraptor is expensive and pointless since you have an SSD . For data storage use a more conventional HDD

I would have to disagree. I think a speed boost even on a storage drive will help overall system performance.

That 150w PSU will be just about enough for your CPU and motherboard. The magic smoke might come out the second you plug your other components in. Upgrade it!!

FWIW my computer from 1992 has a 150w PSU in it.
February 18, 2013 6:32:36 PM

i3 is 65 watts: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i3/Intel-Core%20i3-3...

Radeon is 55 watts: http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-Radeon-HD-7770-and-7...

Your DVD/HDD wattages are only correct when idling. When in use, they use about 25W each (less for the SSD).

16 GB RAM = 1W / GB = 16 W.

I get roughly 200 W just from these 4 areas, nevermind the mobo, fans, PCI attachments, USB attachments, etc. Even without the GPU, you're pushing it.

You don't want to have a PSU where you are just barely under the maximum wattage.
February 18, 2013 8:51:53 PM

Hi,

I am going to get the Chieftec Fi-01B with 200w PSU.
Its a bit more as an import but its the only one I can find that small.

65 I3-3225 I suppose the HD4000 is extra
16 16GB So 1w per GB
3 SSD Intel 320 80GB From Specs
6 HDD I tend to agree on speed here WD 500gb VR From Specs
8 BR/DVD Is what I wrote down
20? Mobo
5 Fan

123 Total (71 as measured)

25 HDD Write?
25 Blu-Ray Write?

173 Max

I am not going to put in the Radeon as gaming is least important.

That seems reasonable.

Cheers. Andrew.

February 18, 2013 9:45:29 PM

A commercial box with 150w supply.

Mine is 18w higher.
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