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February 18, 2013 9:23:32 AM

Hello people ! I have a dilema.... I have a small room in my new house aviable, where I want to build a strong pc or a pc+console. Building a good pc for 600-700 euros isnt realy hard for me I have already choose the parts and all the gear, but I was thiking about getting a cheap Linux desktop+ps3 (I can have the ps for 160-200 euros) and I dont know if its worth and if its, how it can be done.

Please, please I repeat please dont go in console discusion vs pc discusion I know ...

Screen

So the room size is 2x3 meters (pretty small) so I ll put here a small sofa, table and the screen after it. I want to watch cable TV, play PS3 and use my Pc as well on it. Distance will be around 2meters

So the what is the solution for a 23-24inch screen that can solve this and its around 150-200 euros or cheaper.... I m not a pixel guy. I repeat I dont need super TV.

Desktop

Now this is the biggest problem for me, I want to go with Intel since the driver support of Linux is better expecialy when it comes to graphic cards. Correct me if I m wrong I havent used Linux for a while now. Putting together cheap parts isnt again a problem here I can do it for around 200-300 bucks, however the problem occured when I ran into HTPC and hybrid motherboards with integrated GPU+CPU, they look just too good. I wont buy a build HTPC anyway, because I want build alone and I dont care how big is the case and the parts I can hide the big tower somewhere or buy a nice looking one that wont destroy my fengshueeiie in the room.

So the question is are these hybrid motherboards worth to buy or should I just put together something with individual parts. At home I have an old notebook with Intel Celeron crap 1,7 single-core and actualy its fine, but when I start using linux desktop efect or want to run a high-res video its terrible. These integrated chips comes in all kind of setups, but I was looking mostly on dualcore 1,6, 1,8 and 2 which compared to my 1,7 single core will be just enough (or ?)... What is your opinion ? Are these good or are they the very very low-end garbage ? Are they able to handle a nice desktop with a few aplications running like music+browsing, putting movies and youtube videos on my screen with facebook opened in my background ? Will I wait 1 minute for folder opening or program startup ?
I not realy care about the integrated GPU since I buy something cheap to add anyway if I will feel its not good enough, expecialy as I have heard these integrated Intel HD cards not work good on Linux for now.

I have been on few forums already, but seems not many people understand what I want from them so I ll repeat again I want the cheapes possible solution for a Linux based desktop with good performance. And I wont do 3d graphic desing I wont play any games on it at all.

Thank you for all answers.

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February 18, 2013 8:32:46 PM

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Now this is the biggest problem for me, I want to go with Intel since the driver support of Linux is better expecialy when it comes to graphic cards. Correct me if I m wrong I havent used Linux for a while now. Putting together cheap parts isnt again a problem here I can do it for around 200-300 bucks, however the problem occured when I ran into HTPC and hybrid motherboards with integrated GPU+CPU, they look just too good.


If you are interested in that route you probably should take a look at the AMD A10: http://www.alza.sk/amd-a10-5800k-black-edition-d357419....

It's not as powerful as an Intel setup but the integrated graphics are far superior to the Intel HD 4000.

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I wont buy a build HTPC anyway, because I want build alone and I dont care how big is the case and the parts I can hide the big tower somewhere or buy a nice looking one that wont destroy my fengshueeiie in the room.


My HTPC is based around the Silverstone GD05B and it looks like a home theater component. Nobody will mistake it for a desktop PC. Now alternately you could run a mITX build and then you could hide it anywhere. Maybe check out the Fractal Design Node 605: http://www.alza.sk/fractal-node-605-d361132.htm

This is the GD05B: http://www.alza.sk/silverstone-sst-gd05b-grandia-d21416...

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So the question is are these hybrid motherboards worth to buy or should I just put together something with individual parts. At home I have an old notebook with Intel Celeron crap 1,7 single-core and actualy its fine, but when I start using linux desktop efect or want to run a high-res video its terrible. These integrated chips comes in all kind of setups, but I was looking mostly on dualcore 1,6, 1,8 and 2 which compared to my 1,7 single core will be just enough (or ?)... What is your opinion ? Are these good or are they the very very low-end garbage ? Are they able to handle a nice desktop with a few aplications running like music+browsing, putting movies and youtube videos on my screen with facebook opened in my background ? Will I wait 1 minute for folder opening or program startup ?


I'm not sure what you mean by hybrid motherboards. Most motherboards these days have everything built in - sound, graphics, and even networking functions. The integrated graphics no matter what CPU you go with, are still not as good as if you were to run a dedicated GPU.

As far as CPU goes - the dual core i3 is a very good CPU. Ideally you want a quad core - the Intel i5s are the best you can get right now.
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February 18, 2013 11:40:47 PM

FX-6300 would be better in the long run since more and more games are utilizing more than 2 cores.
February 18, 2013 11:44:27 PM

cutebeans said:
FX-6300 would be better in the long run since more and more games are utilizing more than 2 cores.


The FX 6300 only gives you a *SLIGHT* advantage over the i3, but the key word there is slight: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=677

The only reason I'd go for the FX is the unlocked multiplier but that's about it.
February 19, 2013 11:27:02 AM

I was thiking about getting one of these Nvidia Geforce 210 http://www.alza.sk/graficke-karty/podla-cipu/nvidia/188...

CPU : http://www.alza.sk/intel-celeron-g1610-d380184.htm

Dunno what MOBO any advice ?

Getting an expensive CPU with good integrated GPU like that AMD quad is still more expensive then getting this very nice gt210 that will be just great for all my needs. So getting a MOBO with onboard CPU is still an options but I think investing 30 euroes for one of these GPUs is realy worth. I might look more into AMD stuff too, but they have terrible support for LInux :( ( .
February 19, 2013 3:49:50 PM

timer1 said:
I was thiking about getting one of these Nvidia Geforce 210 http://www.alza.sk/graficke-karty/podla-cipu/nvidia/188...

CPU : http://www.alza.sk/intel-celeron-g1610-d380184.htm

Dunno what MOBO any advice ?

Getting an expensive CPU with good integrated GPU like that AMD quad is still more expensive then getting this very nice gt210 that will be just great for all my needs. So getting a MOBO with onboard CPU is still an options but I think investing 30 euroes for one of these GPUs is realy worth. I might look more into AMD stuff too, but they have terrible support for LInux :( ( .


That is a very, very low end GPU. It will most likely bottleneck the rest of your system. If you want an inexpensive one the best you can get is the Radeon 7750: http://www.alza.sk/sapphire-hd-7750-oc-d305875.htm

And then for the motherboard if you want to use the low end Pentium series, I might recommend something like this: http://www.alza.sk/gigabyte-h77n-wifi-d360465.htm
February 19, 2013 10:24:46 PM

Very very Low end is a nice way of putting it.

Piece of **** Trash card is more like it. Buying a 210 is like buying a 20 year old corolla.
February 20, 2013 2:37:38 AM

Guys... ffs... I m not building a gamming rig that 210 is low budget card that can do what I need it to do and that CPU is just enough for running freaking Linux desktop.

I need cheap solution or I will build a "normal" pc with ability to overlock and upgrade.l
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