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February 18, 2013 6:18:40 PM

I am looking for help building my 1st computer. I plan on using it for gaming and school stuff. I'd like to be able to play games like lfd2, bf3, TF2 etc... I saw this rig on YouTube, changed a couple things and was wondering if the parts are still compatible and will be able to run those types of games. I'm not looking to spend a lot and any advice would be great because I've never built a computer before. Also, I plan on using my tv as a monitor for now to keep the cost below about $700

Here's what I have:
-CPU:Intel Pentium G850, Socket 1155, Dual Core, 2.90GHz
or Intel core i5 3550 quad core (preferably not to save $)
-GPU:1GB XFX Radeon HD 7770
or SAPPHIRE Radeon 7770 oc
-MoBo:MSI H61M-P31 (G3) Motherboard
-PSU:Corsair cx 430w 80 plus bronze
-CPU cooler:Cooler master hyper 212 plus CPU cooler
-Memory:Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
-Storage:500GB Seagate ST500DM002 Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s, 7200rpm
-Case:Fractal Design Core 1000
-OS: Windows 7 home premium (64-bit)


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February 18, 2013 6:37:44 PM

First thing that came to mind after seeing your specs is a bigger PSU. The Radeon 7770 requires a minimum of 450 watts. Now its possible the Corsair 430 watt may cut it depending on how good it actually is, which I haven't checked but... You're taking a chance and PSU's degrade over time, plus you're leaving no room for any sort of upgrade. I'd recommend at least a 500 watt PSU. Corsair is a solid brand though. Another one I like is Antec.
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February 18, 2013 6:44:31 PM

Thanks, I'll go with a 500w PSU. Any other tips?
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February 18, 2013 6:52:13 PM

Kindredsouls said:
First thing that came to mind after seeing your specs is a bigger PSU. The Radeon 7770 requires a minimum of 450 watts. Now its possible the Corsair 430 watt may cut it depending on how good it actually is, which I haven't checked but... You're taking a chance and PSU's degrade over time, plus you're leaving no room for any sort of upgrade. I'd recommend at least a 500 watt PSU. Corsair is a solid brand though. Another one I like is Antec.

Will the CPU and graphics card be able to handle games like those with a decent frame rate?
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February 18, 2013 7:01:20 PM

Kindredsouls said:
First thing that came to mind after seeing your specs is a bigger PSU. The Radeon 7770 requires a minimum of 450 watts. Now its possible the Corsair 430 watt may cut it depending on how good it actually is, which I haven't checked but... You're taking a chance and PSU's degrade over time, plus you're leaving no room for any sort of upgrade. I'd recommend at least a 500 watt PSU. Corsair is a solid brand though. Another one I like is Antec.


The CX430 will easily support the 7770. You do not need to change PSU's.

What NVIDIA/AMD lists as the minimum wattage for a PSU to supoprt a video card is to ensure very poorly designed PSU's can still handle the card.

What's far more important to a gaming system than total wattage is the amps on the +12v rail. @28a, the CX430 has a strong 12v rail and can support even more power-hungry cards than the 7770, with headroom to spare.

Your system with a G850 & 7770 will barely draw 220w under absolute maximum load.

cheers!

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February 18, 2013 7:05:22 PM

soldier17live said:
Will the CPU and graphics card be able to handle games like those with a decent frame rate?


At what resolution will you be playing them?
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February 18, 2013 7:22:43 PM

quilciri said:
At what resolution will you be playing them?


I plan to use medium settings and use my 1080p tv; I'm getting a monitor later but don't really know what yet. Do you think that this build can handle those games at that res. w/ those settings?
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February 18, 2013 7:35:39 PM

A G850/7770 combo will push 30-45 fps @1080p med settings in the more demanding games such as BF3. For a first person shooter on a PC, you'll want to be closer to 60 FPS, which is easily achievable on a $700 budget.

First thing, though: Do you need to buy an operating system?
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February 18, 2013 7:41:15 PM

quilciri said:
A G850/7770 combo will push 30-45 fps @1080p med settings in the more demanding games such as BF3. For a FPS on a PC, you'll want to be closer to 60 FPS, which is easily achievable on a $700 budget.

First thing, though: Do you need to buy an operating system?

Yea, I thought I'd go with windows 7 premium 64-bit
What would you recommend I change to get a higher frame rate?
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February 18, 2013 7:57:35 PM

Both the CPU and the GPU could use a bump. Take a peek at the $600 buld in my sig as a starting point. It's a bit over $600 due to price fluctuations, but an OS added on would put you right at $700. That rig would easily hit the 60FPS mark in BF3 @1080p med settings. Any less demanding game you'll be able to max out @60fps.
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February 18, 2013 8:03:34 PM

quilciri said:
Both the CPU and the GPU could use a bump. Take a peek at the $600 buld in my sig as a starting point. It's a bit over $600 due to price fluctuations, but an OS added on would put you right at $700. That rig would easily hit the 60FPS mark in BF3 @1080p med settings. Any less demanding game you'll be able to max out @60fps.

Cool, that build looks awesome and I love the case too. Should I get a CPU cooler or will the standard provided w/ the processor be enough?
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February 18, 2013 8:03:40 PM

quilciri said:
Both the CPU and the GPU could use a bump. Take a peek at the $600 buld in my sig as a starting point. It's a bit over $600 due to price fluctuations, but an OS added on would put you right at $700. That rig would easily hit the 60FPS mark in BF3 @1080p med settings. Any less demanding game you'll be able to max out @60fps.

Cool, that build looks awesome and I love the case too. Should I get a CPU cooler or will the standard provided w/ the processor be enough?
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February 18, 2013 8:03:46 PM

quilciri said:
Both the CPU and the GPU could use a bump. Take a peek at the $600 buld in my sig as a starting point. It's a bit over $600 due to price fluctuations, but an OS added on would put you right at $700. That rig would easily hit the 60FPS mark in BF3 @1080p med settings. Any less demanding game you'll be able to max out @60fps.

Cool, that build looks awesome and I love the case too. Should I get a CPU cooler or will the standard provided w/ the processor be enough?
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February 18, 2013 8:03:58 PM

Heh, was about to suggest the tahiti 7870 card instead that newegg was running a tomshardware promo on, but just noticed they're sold out.
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February 18, 2013 8:05:15 PM

soldier17live said:
Cool, that build looks awesome and I love the case too. Should I get a CPU cooler or will the standard provided w/ the processor be enough?


The boxed intel cooler is good for the 3470.
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February 18, 2013 8:10:44 PM

quilciri said:
The boxed intel cooler is good for the 3470.

Thanks for everything, your help is greatly appreciated and I'll go with the rig you suggested.
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February 18, 2013 8:12:10 PM

Best answer selected by Soldier17live.
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