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February 18, 2013 6:43:37 PM

Hi Tomshardware!
I'm getting a little tired of my laptop with i5 3210m and geforce 610m, so I decided to step into pc gaming, therefor I'm going to build myself a pc. It's gonna be the first time and my first desktop. It's gonna be used for gaming and probably NOT video rendering or photoshop.
I have a budget at about 1500$, I'd like to get your opinions and advice and such..
This is what I've chosen till now, I've researched a lot.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 45.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (Here I've chosen the Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A, it's not on pcpartpicker though :-D)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Amazon) (The Ftw Signature2 to be clear)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer (Gh24ns95(
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full (32/64-bit) ($166.68 @ Amazon) (This is most likely gonna be Windows 8, but the different versions confused me.)
Total: $1076.64 (The price is gonna be about 1500$ since I'm ordering from Amazon.co.uk and the prices there are a tad higher)
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-18 15:31 EST-0500)

How does that look? Based on reviews it should be pretty good, but I'd like to hear your opinions!
a b B Homebuilt system
February 18, 2013 7:46:09 PM

Games won't use more than 4 cores/threads so the i7 would be like 1-2% better than an i5 which is $100 cheaper.

You also have a 5400RPM hard drive as your boot drive so things might take a while to load and the PC might feel a bit slow. If you want something quiet I would use a SSD and 5400RPM hard drive, if you just want speed get a SSD and 7200RPM hard drive.

The PSU looks overkill, 500W+ is more than fine. 750W is fine if you plan to go dual graphics cards but bare in mind that you won't need to and probably won't for a 1080P single monitor setup.


Basically I would drop the PSU down to something like a 520W Seasonic, drop the i7 to an i5 then add a SSD. That would make the build quieter, more stable, feel a bit faster and maybe even be a bit cheaper.
a b B Homebuilt system
February 18, 2013 7:54:59 PM

ram and hdd aren't appropriate :) 
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a b B Homebuilt system
February 18, 2013 8:01:20 PM

from uk, leaves os/cooler for you to pick

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£242.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£101.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£46.58 @ Dabs)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.00 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (£309.96 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£99.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer (£14.40 @ Novatech)
Total: £925.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-18 22:00 GMT+0000)
February 18, 2013 8:07:28 PM

jmsellars1 said:
Games won't use more than 4 cores/threads so the i7 would be like 1-2% better than an i5 which is $100 cheaper.

You also have a 5400RPM hard drive as your boot drive so things might take a while to load and the PC might feel a bit slow. If you want something quiet I would use a SSD and 5400RPM hard drive, if you just want speed get a SSD and 7200RPM hard drive.

The PSU looks overkill, 500W+ is more than fine. 750W is fine if you plan to go dual graphics cards but bare in mind that you won't need to and probably won't for a 1080P single monitor setup.


Basically I would drop the PSU down to something like a 520W Seasonic, drop the i7 to an i5 then add a SSD. That would make the build quieter, more stable, feel a bit faster and maybe even be a bit cheaper.

Thanks for the replies!
I plan to add a ssd later on when I get the money. On amazon a review said that the hdd was actually 7200 rpm and not 5400, but I could try finding a hdd where I'm sure it's 7200 instead. I plan to add a new gpu for sli later on, so I guess that psu is appropriate. Would an i5 3570k do the job then?
February 18, 2013 8:18:56 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£165.14 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£101.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£67.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.32 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (£342.40 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£85.42 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer (£14.40 @ Novatech)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£65.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £978.62
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-18 22:17 GMT+0000)
i5 3570k is great for gaming, chose a 7970 simply because it's a great card for gaming, and has 3Gb of VRAM which should definitely last long enough. Hyper 212 is a great budget cpu cooler as well.
a b B Homebuilt system
February 18, 2013 8:21:42 PM

Bare in mind that if you add the SSD later, you will need to re-install your OS.

I think the speed on it varies but it airs on the side of low power/energy savings rather than speed.

When you say add a GPU later on, how much later on? If you want to do it within a few months, you will have an overkill setup which will see little benefit since it will max games anyway and if you leave it too long, you will be having to buy dated hardware. There's a reason no-one suggests SLI'ing 2 year old cards.
February 18, 2013 8:41:32 PM

mikkelraa said:
Hi Tomshardware!
I'm getting a little tired of my laptop with i5 3210m and geforce 610m, so I decided to step into pc gaming, therefor I'm going to build myself a pc. It's gonna be the first time and my first desktop. It's gonna be used for gaming and probably NOT video rendering or photoshop.
I have a budget at about 1500$, I'd like to get your opinions and advice and such..
This is what I've chosen till now, I've researched a lot.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 45.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (Here I've chosen the Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A, it's not on pcpartpicker though :-D)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Amazon) (The Ftw Signature2 to be clear)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer (Gh24ns95(
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full (32/64-bit) ($166.68 @ Amazon) (This is most likely gonna be Windows 8, but the different versions confused me.)
Total: $1076.64 (The price is gonna be about 1500$ since I'm ordering from Amazon.co.uk and the prices there are a tad higher)
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-18 15:31 EST-0500)

How does that look? Based on reviews it should be pretty good, but I'd like to hear your opinions!


all i have to say is to not get an i7 and instead get the i5 3570k. it's what i have and it runs games like battlefield 3 on ultra settings with ZERO lag. and while you've saved $100 on that processor, you can upgrade to a gtx 680 to keep up with the growing number of graphically demanding games :D 

also, i just wanted to put out there that my case is an NZXT Phantom.. best case i've ever used. i love how it looks too, it doesn't look like a piece of random parts of metal o.o
February 19, 2013 5:54:02 AM

Okay, so messing around with it, should I buy the gtx 680 superclocked instead of the 670 ftw sig2?
February 19, 2013 6:56:16 AM

mikkelraa said:
Okay, so messing around with it, should I buy the gtx 680 superclocked instead of the 670 ftw sig2?

Out of those two, a 670 has much better price/performance. Maybe also consider a 7970, they're extremely powerful and probably offer even better price/performance than the 670, while also giving you 3Gb of VRAM.
February 19, 2013 7:04:08 AM

2wenty said:
Out of those two, a 670 has much better price/performance. Maybe also consider a 7970, they're extremely powerful and probably offer even better price/performance than the 670, while also giving you 3Gb of VRAM.

Since I'm on a 32" 1920x1080 monitor, I don't think I need 3gb. Also, I prefer nvidia over AMD so I think I'll stick with the 670 :-)
February 19, 2013 7:09:42 AM

mikkelraa said:
Since I'm on a 32" 1920x1080 monitor, I don't think I need 3gb. Also, I prefer nvidia over AMD so I think I'll stick with the 670 :-)

Sure, decided on your final build then?
February 19, 2013 7:22:15 AM

2wenty said:
Sure, decided on your final build then?

Wait, won't I need to overclock a lot to enjoy the 7970? And aren't there a lot of driver issues on the AMD side? I haven't ever overclocked before
February 19, 2013 8:30:57 AM

mikkelraa said:
Wait, won't I need to overclock a lot to enjoy the 7970? And aren't there a lot of driver issues on the AMD side? I haven't ever overclocked before

AMD cards usually have very good overclocking abilities, and the 7970 Ghz Edition comes with increased stock clocks over the normal 7970. Even the reference 7970s show pretty good performance, but it's somewhat of a waste (imo) to not overclock using such high end cards, since even basic overclocks can show pretty good fps increase (5-10fps increases at least). The latest AMD drivers (13.1 and 13.2 beta) are pretty good, and have increased overall performance compared to the last drivers. Both the 670 and 7970 are very good choices, it's mostly a personal opinion. Overclocking GPUs isn't very hard, just look around for overclocking software (MSI afterburner, Sapphire Trix etc.).
February 19, 2013 8:50:39 AM

2wenty said:
AMD cards usually have very good overclocking abilities, and the 7970 Ghz Edition comes with increased stock clocks over the normal 7970. Even the reference 7970s show pretty good performance, but it's somewhat of a waste (imo) to not overclock using such high end cards, since even basic overclocks can show pretty good fps increase (5-10fps increases at least). The latest AMD drivers (13.1 and 13.2 beta) are pretty good, and have increased overall performance compared to the last drivers. Both the 670 and 7970 are very good choices, it's mostly a personal opinion. Overclocking GPUs isn't very hard, just look around for overclocking software (MSI afterburner, Sapphire Trix etc.).

Wow, that's a really hard choice. I have never tried AMD before, so I don't know about that, but you're making it sound really good, I'm so confused o_o
What would you think? Without GPU I'm at 558£, so a maximum of 442£.
February 19, 2013 8:56:19 AM

What version of the 7970 would you say? Like the gtx 670 is the evga ftw sig2 edition, what's your preferred 7970?
February 19, 2013 9:03:29 AM

Sapphire Vapor-X 7970 Ghz Edition 3Gb is a good card, and Sapphire offers its own overclocking software. And the best way to decide between them? Flip a coin.
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