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GTX 660 or GTX 670?

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January 2, 2013 5:20:45 AM



APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Will be buying after the 11th of Janurary

BUDGET RANGE: 300-400$

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (Dota 2, Crysis 2 and "3", Guild Wars 2, Starcraft II, Diablo III) Movies connected to my TV

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: No current GPU, I am building a new PC. 650w XFX 80+ bronze.

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS:
i5-3570k
Asrock Extreme 4
Vengeance 8gb
CM Storm Stryker



PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Any, NCIX matches price :D . California US

PARTS PREFERENCES: I am trying to stay with a color scheme, dark and white look. So a dark card pref. black.

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1080+

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Sold my old setup and profited (incredibility that never happens.) It had the GTX 560 Asus overclocked and I like it a lot. I want something better for this build. I am investing about 1100$

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vn92
The card posted was just an idea.

More about : gtx 660 gtx 670

a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 7:29:08 AM

gtx 670 would be far better
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 7:56:58 AM

You could even buy 2 GTX 660 for 400$ and go SLI. They will have better performance than GTX 680 and Radeon 7970 GHz ed. :) 
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 8:08:37 AM

lostgamer_03 said:
You could even buy 2 GTX 660 for 400$ and go SLI. They will have better performance than GTX 680 and Radeon 7970 GHz ed. :) 


Two 7850's also have more performance than a 680 and 7970. Whats your point? You can't really compare two GPU's to one fairly, the benefits of having one single powerful GPU are obvious. Better driver support on release of games, no fear of microstuttering, and the big one, still an upgrade path available if you choose to SLI/CFX.
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 8:10:06 AM

Don't forget about lower power consumption, less heat hence less noise
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 8:49:47 AM

Yeah forgot about that too. Thought about it after I posted it, but forgot to correct it. Thanks.
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 9:00:05 AM

get a 670. its 25-30% more powerful than 660. also since you previously owned a 560 it will take nothing less than a 670 to wow you so my choice is a 670.
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 11:42:18 AM

JJ1217 said:
Two 7850's also have more performance than a 680 and 7970. Whats your point? You can't really compare two GPU's to one fairly, the benefits of having one single powerful GPU are obvious. Better driver support on release of games, no fear of microstuttering, and the big one, still an upgrade path available if you choose to SLI/CFX.


He wants most performance for his Money right now. He got a budget and it's the most performance he can get.

Ofc I can compare 2 GPUs to one? As long as I stay within the budget, then it does not matter.

SLI in the future with GTX 670? When it's time to upgrade from a GTX 670 I'm sure he would be better off selling it and getting a newer model instead of adding another.

He would spend the same amount of Money and get way better performance.
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January 2, 2013 12:01:27 PM

i bought 660ftw and while its great (avg 43fps bf3, 32fps metro 2033, 30-37 farcry 3 depending on setting)
i do have money so i could have purchase 670. anyway in june 770 is coming so question is whether you could wait till then. yeah crysis 3 comes in february but if you wait for 770 you are set for years to come

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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 12:48:28 PM

revro said:
i bought 660ftw and while its great (avg 43fps bf3, 32fps metro 2033, 30-37 farcry 3 depending on setting)
i do have money so i could have purchase 670. anyway in june 770 is coming so question is whether you could wait till then. yeah crysis 3 comes in february but if you wait for 770 you are set for years to come

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Bro, This exactly what ive been saying pretty much and im looking foward to the 770 my self also i think the 770 will drop in may if its anything like 2012 we will see something close to this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_600_Series
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 1:25:04 PM

its not worth waiting for a 770 for the simple fact that when you can buy a 670 for $350 why wait for 770 which will cost atleast $450
also one must buy what they want now rather than playing the waiting game.
or else keep waiting for eternity
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 1:31:11 PM

mohit9206 said:
its not worth waiting for a 770 for the simple fact that when you can buy a 670 for $350 why wait for 770 which will cost atleast $450
also one must buy what they want now rather than playing the waiting game.
or else keep waiting for eternity


I agree with you
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January 2, 2013 1:34:09 PM

+ thumbs up for mohit9206

any choice is a snapshot in time.
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 1:37:34 PM

mohit9206 said:
its not worth waiting for a 770 for the simple fact that when you can buy a 670 for $350 why wait for 770 which will cost atleast $450
also one must buy what they want now rather than playing the waiting game.
or else keep waiting for eternity


Because some of us including me has a 660ti and can wait untill the 770 drops to see a better improvement instead of going to the 670
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 1:39:54 PM

dual 660 in sli not ti for 200 a piece. micros sutter really isnt ever there when using vsync. without using vsync you will notice it a bit
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 1:41:12 PM

determinologyz said:
Because some of us including me has a 660ti and can wait untill the 770 drops to see a better improvement instead of going to the 670


That is because you already have a great card. OP has a 560 which performs only as good as a 650ti, so upgrading to a 670 will show huge improvements.
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 1:47:23 PM

EzioAs said:
That is because you already have a great card. OP has a 560 which performs only as good as a 650ti, so upgrading to a 670 will show huge improvements.


But what im saying is a 770 would be better we both cant disagree there. Yea he could could go for a 670 but i honestly think waiting is a better option. A 670 is a higher end card yes but as of now January 2, 2013 knowing 700 series is releasing eh even if i had the 560ti i still would wait it out a bit atleast see what strong rumors drops and do some pricing around and if he still wants to go for a 670 by all means do so but atleast he will know nvidias option/specs between the 790 780 770 670 in his case.
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 1:54:22 PM

determinologyz said:
But what im saying is a 770 would be better we both cant disagree there. Yea he could could go for a 670 but i honestly think waiting is a better option. A 670 is a higher end card yes but as of now January 2, 2013 knowing 700 series is releasing eh even if i had the 560ti i still would wait it out a bit atleast see what strong rumors drops and do some pricing around and if he still wants to go for a 670 by all means do so but atleast he will know nvidias option/specs between the 790 780 770 670 in his case.


My rule of thumb: Just upgrade it unless a newer and better product is within 3-2 month which you might consider waiting. But if you desperately need the performance now, upgrade now.

While being patient is a good thing, we can't wait forever.
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 2:07:39 PM

EzioAs said:
My rule of thumb: Just upgrade it unless a newer and better product is within 3-2 month which you might consider waiting. But if you desperately need the performance now, upgrade now.

While being patient is a good thing, we can't wait forever.


With that being said yea thats true and i agree there but theres a catch-22 to this. Lets say he picks up a gtx 670 yes its a big improvement over his 560ti and he will be able to max out games with it for sure and thats great but just knowing theres a new set of cards coming out thats going to be a improvement as well idk thats a toss up situation because if it were i and if i had the same card it would be a tough call YES the 670 is a beast from what ive seen but i do like to weigh my options as well then choose
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January 2, 2013 2:24:05 PM

The argument of waiting for new tech to be released at a premium price vs. getting an immediate performance gain will never be settled. Thats personal preference, however it isn't really relevant here: the OP doesn't have a 560 (non Ti) as it was sold with his prior system. He is building a new system so he needs a GPU now and can't wait.

That being said, both are good values but the 670 is considerably stronger. I'd go 670 since the budget allows it and since your used to 560 performance this is a considerable upgrade whereas the 660 would be a modest upgrade.
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 2:26:22 PM

Ummm he dose not have a 560 ti.. Did any of you really read his post? He said he sold his old system that had the 560ti in it... He has no GPU right now, so i would assume waiting half a year is out of the question. I would say get the GTX 670, it really isn't worth SLI'ing mid cards when you can get a single card for less money that is only a little slower... Will save you a lot of headaches.
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 2:26:33 PM

670
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January 2, 2013 2:43:38 PM

I think its crazy to wait that long for the 770 i agree if its a month or two out and it makes a huge diff.....and saying that the 770 will set you up for "years to come"......thats what we JUST said about the 680 that i bought when it launched. now look, 770, 870........keep waiting and you never get a pc you can enjoy.
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 2:47:43 PM

Didn't really realized he had no video card at the moment :??:  . Which makes buying a card now even more sense
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January 2, 2013 3:25:13 PM

ok then its 670, tough 770 i heard on some forums is supposed to have 384 bit bus and 3gb ram compared to 256bit and 2gb vram of 670. so if true then it will really be a beast

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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 3:37:54 PM

revro said:
i bought 660ftw and while its great (avg 43fps bf3, 32fps metro 2033, 30-37 farcry 3 depending on setting)
i do have money so i could have purchase 670. anyway in june 770 is coming so question is whether you could wait till then. yeah crysis 3 comes in february but if you wait for 770 you are set for years to come

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you must really have a bad CPU, because those results suck.
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 3:44:15 PM

His sig says he has a Q9550 so that would explain it :) 
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January 2, 2013 3:50:48 PM

are you sure? i found only reviews regarding 660sc which is little lower clocked than ftw, which are for singleplayer missions not from multiplayer where i run my benchmarks:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_6...
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2023/6/

i get the 43fps as 2minute average on ultra settings 64p multiplayer map caspian border or kharg islang. when i play on 16p map where i get more flag points :)  i get like 45-60fps but never benchmarked that for avg. the 4 cores are never at 100% they hover between 75-85-95%

metro and farcry 3 are totally at max settings and cpu/gpu usage is 85-95% so there is no bottleneck on my system.
yeah i should overclock but i dont want, and i have the E0 q9550 which is supposed to overclock better :) 

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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 3:53:29 PM

having your cpu run at 80%+ is normally it bottlenecking, You won't see a CPU pin at 99%-100% like GPUs do.
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January 2, 2013 5:36:57 PM

Guys, I do not have a GFX card, so I can't wait. I also did not have the 560ti, I had the 560. I believe I am going to buy the 670, however no one has listed any that meet my requirements. I was hoping someone could point me to a good one that doesn't have color on it other then the dark colors I was asking about
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 5:43:39 PM

EVGA 670? Their cards are mostly grey to black
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January 2, 2013 5:51:07 PM

Any specific card^? I know they have a few different 670 so to me its like, god can't they just have 1 awesome one. Lol
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 5:53:12 PM

FTW is their highest clock card
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January 2, 2013 5:56:09 PM

you should try either superclocked or for the win FTW, they are usually only 10 bucks apart but FTW has higher clock
and also signature 2 versions have custom 2 fan cooler like this
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=02G-P4-367...

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January 2, 2013 6:01:43 PM

What runs better, cooling and noise wise? the FTW Sig2 or the reg referenz style?
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 6:04:00 PM

shadow1551 said:
What runs better, cooling and noise wise? the FTW Sig2 or the reg referenz style?


FTW sig2 will run faster, cooler and quieter... but it will put heat into the case where the blowers will push the hot air out the back of your case... It won't be an issue if you have decent case air flow though.
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January 2, 2013 6:09:55 PM

Buying CM Storm Stryker, I do believe I should be fine. :) 
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 6:15:10 PM

You'll be fine
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January 2, 2013 6:26:16 PM

Thanks guys a bunch, I appreciate the help. I have trouble picking a graphics card, even more so when I am about to spend 400$ on a single card. Not sure who to select best answer to considering it was accumulative help
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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 6:28:45 PM

At least pick one so that the mods can close the thread. If you have other problem afterwards, open a new thread. Anyway, good luck with your purchase and happy gaming ;) 
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January 2, 2013 6:34:57 PM

i am not sure but mine sig2 is also blowing out of case, are you saying its blowing both ways?

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a b U Graphics card
January 2, 2013 6:50:54 PM

revro said:
i am not sure but mine sig2 is also blowing out of case, are you saying its blowing both ways?

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Yes... It will blow some air out the back where the vent is but a lot more will go into the case, they are not sealed like the blowers that force the air out the back are. But because of this design the cards themselves stay cooler but the overall temperature in your case will rise by some amount depending on your case air flow.
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January 2, 2013 7:06:11 PM

Best answer selected by shadow1551.
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