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Gtx 660 vs HD 7850

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January 3, 2013 12:57:58 PM

what will be better option for 1080p gaming considering 660 is 192 bit while 7850 is 256 bit
would it matter in real world performance ? is 660 worth $37 extra

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a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2013 1:10:20 PM

7850 is better
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a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2013 1:10:25 PM

GTX660. Check out the second post for why bus width is irrelevant:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/378279-15-gtx660-78...

tl;dr? 7800 series cards have no significant bandwidth gain as a result of bus width. ~5% more bandwidth and less performance on the 7850 in real world performance.
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a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2013 1:11:35 PM

siddharthmukul007 said:
7850 is better


LOL

No.
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January 3, 2013 1:14:57 PM

I have a 7850, and i'd say the GTX 660 is better. i don't think there's a big difference between the 2 cards though :) 
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January 3, 2013 2:41:09 PM

of course the 660 i'd recommend it over the 7870 too :) 
here is a link:http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_HAWK/28....
for the overall performance for all new cards as u can see the Refrence 660 is better than a refrence 7870 and the OCed edtion "HAWK ïs way much better and yes it worth the extra money as it performs about 15 % much better than a 7850
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a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2013 2:43:36 PM

Well I'd take the GTX660 over a 7870 too, but probably no need to get into a GTX660 vs 7870 battle if the OP would be stretching budget to accommodate a GTX660 anyway :-)
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a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2013 3:26:02 PM

GTX660 is only marginally better that that the 7850.....is it worth is extra money spent?????
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January 3, 2013 3:38:30 PM

Sandouby_96 said:
of course the 660 i'd recommend it over the 7870 too :) 
here is a link:http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_HAWK/28....
for the overall performance for all new cards as u can see the Refrence 660 is better than a refrence 7870 and the OCed edtion "HAWK ïs way much better and yes it worth the extra money as it performs about 15 % much better than a 7850



Thats old stuff. Newer stuff HD 7870>GTX 660

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_P...
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January 3, 2013 3:39:06 PM

siddharthmukul007 said:
GTX660 is only marginally better that that the 7850.....is it worth is extra money spent?????



Well, tell us the price of R7850, R7870, GTX 660
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a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2013 6:49:39 PM

Burntpizza might be asking the price because we don't know what country OP is from. Value varies a lot by country, since prices are different. As for the price difference vs performance difference, it's definitely more worth it than the 7870 vs the GTX660. With Catalyst 12.11 vs older nVidia drivers, 7870 only has a 5% gain:

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/...

So less than 5% now that nVidia drivers are also updated. But there's more reasons to take the GeForce - more consistent framerate delivery for example:

http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-ge...

Or adaptive v-sync, for massively better framerates when you leave v-sync enabled and drop below 60fps. Also PhysX, but adaptive v-sync and consistent performance are the main arguments.
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January 3, 2013 7:30:21 PM

sam_p_lay said:
more consistent framerate delivery...
that issue is only tested on HD 7950 so far, you can't claim the same for all the radeons :) 

@ OPs question: GTX 660 is imo at the very nice price point atm and is a better card than 7850 but it all depends on your budget of course, sometimes it is good to try and find good deals on the internet and you can do so. Can't say much about 7850 but GTX 660 and HD 7870 are more or less in the same league and they should give you overall good performance/experience in majority of the games. At last, whatever card you buy, you can be sure that you'll get what you pay for :)  Quality and Brands do make some differences though
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a c 171 U Graphics card
January 3, 2013 7:41:44 PM

back to the OP, yes the 660 is faster than the 7850. Its a good amount faster, i would pay the extra money, although where i am the difference is about $20.
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January 3, 2013 8:08:50 PM

burntpizza said:
Thats old stuff. Newer stuff HD 7870>GTX 660

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_P...

yeah i know , the new stuff is a 12.11 VS 310.70 BTW i tested both cards and i can tell u that both were kinda equal with slightly better performance for the 660 in few games as BF3
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a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2013 8:24:36 PM

technoholic said:
that issue is only tested on HD 7950 so far, you can't claim the same for all the radeons :) 


Yeah I know mate, but unless OP waits for TR to do more of these, we have to work on the information we have :-) And the GTX660 is extremely similar architecture to the GTX660 Ti - it's very unlikely that the GTX660 will have a totally different performance consistency. But I'll admit it is possible.
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a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2013 9:00:47 PM

sam_p_lay said:
Yeah I know mate, but unless OP waits for TR to do more of these, we have to work on the information we have :-) And the GTX660 is extremely similar architecture to the GTX660 Ti - it's very unlikely that the GTX660 will have a totally different performance consistency. But I'll admit it is possible.

no offense to gtx 660 mate, i was trying to cover 7870 against 7950 :) 
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a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2013 9:42:59 PM

technoholic said:
no offense to gtx 660 mate, i was trying to cover 7870 against 7950 :) 


Gotcha :-) I don't think there's anything wrong with the 7950 consistency though - like you've said before, that's been observed in both nVidia and AMD hardware since TR started measuring this in 2011.

So 7950 won't look any less smooth than we're used to (since performance fluctuations have been standard until recently). The GTX660 Ti infact was just as inconsistent in the past, which makes me think what we're seeing there is a driver-based solution, because now it's flawlessly consistent.

I think what it boils down to is that at 30fps, a 7950 will look like 30fps. But with a GTX660 Ti, it will look smoother (since we're used to 30fps with a lot of fluctuation, not pure consistent 30fps).

Most people respond to the performance consistency thing by focusing on the inconsistency of the Radeon (which is understandable when that's exactly what the author does). Author should know better though - there's nothing unusual about fluctuations. What's really significant is the lack of fluctuation with the GTX660 Ti, which is a major improvement.
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January 4, 2013 4:11:58 AM

burntpizza said:
Well, tell us the price of R7850, R7870, GTX 660


here in india saphire hd 7850 1gb ddr5 cost $245
7870 2gb ddr5 cost $327
gigabyte gtx 660 2gb ddr5 cost $277
while 660 ti cost $364
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January 4, 2013 4:52:01 AM

the only thing that bugs me about a gtx 660 is some reviews saying it is bottelnecked while using AAx8 or more
while my friend gets good fps with 7850 with AAX16
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a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 5:06:15 AM

buy a gtx from gigabyte mdcomputer @ 14.5 k
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January 4, 2013 5:22:10 AM

akshayghai29785 said:
buy a gtx from gigabyte mdcomputer @ 14.5 k

hey where is gtx 660 avilable for 14.5k
flipkart provides it for 15.8k and in indore it is avilable for 15.9K
can u provide me link pls
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January 4, 2013 6:20:15 AM

dhirajranger said:
what will be better option for 1080p gaming considering 660 is 192 bit while 7850 is 256 bit
would it matter in real world performance ? is 660 worth $37 extra


basically if you'll check Toms Videocard Hierarchy they're about the same. but as for the perfomance id go with the 7850 not because i want AMD its because i have a Sapphire 7850 before and it served me well. no problems whatsoever, was able to handle games at 1080 resolution.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...
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January 4, 2013 6:34:09 AM

dhirajranger said:
what will be better option for 1080p gaming considering 660 is 192 bit while 7850 is 256 bit
would it matter in real world performance ? is 660 worth $37 extra

For $37 more why not get an XFX 7870
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a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 8:25:26 AM

it seems its soldout @ mdcomputers.in
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January 4, 2013 10:40:20 AM

dhirajranger said:
the only thing that bugs me about a gtx 660 is some reviews saying it is bottelnecked while using AAx8 or more
while my friend gets good fps with 7850 with AAX16

no, you are thinking of AF not AA, aa at 16x would kill a 7850 in modern games at 1080p, if it could even do 16x AA. 4x AA is more than enough at 1080p to get great image quality.
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January 4, 2013 11:41:06 AM

dhirajranger said:
what will be better option for 1080p gaming considering 660 is 192 bit while 7850 is 256 bit
would it matter in real world performance ? is 660 worth $37 extra



where in india do you stay????

if you are in kolkata out mdcomputers or eastern logica
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a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 12:41:02 PM

iam2thecrowe said:
no, you are thinking of AF not AA, aa at 16x would kill a 7850 in modern games at 1080p, if it could even do 16x AA. 4x AA is more than enough at 1080p to get great image quality.


+1 to that. You couldn't tell the difference without taking a screenshot and magnifying it. Maybe not even then!
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January 8, 2013 3:35:33 PM

Best answer selected by dhirajranger.
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January 8, 2013 3:36:39 PM

thanks guys for help I will be buying gtx 660 tomorrow
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a b U Graphics card
January 8, 2013 3:58:00 PM

Good choice, and you're welcome :-)
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