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February 20, 2013 8:27:46 PM

Ok... I've been doing research for the past freaking 10 hours now and these are pretty much the 2 builds im looking at.. AMD vs Intel, which is better? And which is more future proofer?

AMD Build:

Phenom II x4 965 BE $90

MSI mobo with 970 chipset $83

Case $26

2x2 crucial 1866 ram $30

ICE Q HD 7870 2gb GDDR5 Ghz edition $220

Corsair CX500M PSU $68

Seagate 7200rpm 1TB sata 3 Hard drive $80

Total $597

Total + taxes + shipping = $708.15



Intel build:

Intel core i5 3570k $227

case $26

Seagate 1tb 7200rpm Hard drive $80

HD 7770 1GB GDDR5 $115

Corsair cx500m PSU $68

BIOstar z77 mobo + 1x8gb ddr3 1600mhz ram $119

total: $635

total + taxes + shipping = $748



Which build is better? Is there anything I could change?

Thx



PS: The reason im getting a Z77 mobo is so I can do major overclocking and because im going to upgrade to haswell or who knows what in 2-3 years.
February 20, 2013 8:38:18 PM

The I5 will probably perform better, but my only concern with that build is the 7770. It will not perform anywhere near a 7870. For my personal preference I usually choose AMD, but I admit that the I5 will perform much better.
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a c 120 À AMD
February 20, 2013 8:40:43 PM

THe I5 3570K is much faster.

Haswell will not be using 1155 socket Z77 at all. It will be on 1150 socket.
But still the Z77 is the way to go for OCing and a bit better chipset.

BUT! What resolution is the monitor you are gaming on? An HD7770 will not be good enough for 1920*1080.
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February 20, 2013 8:43:39 PM

The i5 is a better gaming cpu. But my concerns are the poor quality biostar motherboard, and if you want 8gb if ram get 2x4Gb sticks so you are running in dual channel. Also the Z77 chipset will not support Haswell. Haswell will be socket 1150 and the Z77 is socket 1155.
February 20, 2013 8:48:04 PM

The amd with a 7870 will blow that intel 7770 out of the water.
The graphics card is THE most important part in a gaming build, then the cpu.
Don't skimp on the graphics card.

Now an i5 with a 7870 > phenom II with a 7870
7870>7770

If your budget won't allow a high dollar gpu and cpu in your gaming build, nix the cpu.
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a c 120 À AMD
February 20, 2013 9:28:12 PM

redguy54 said:
The amd with a 7870 will blow that intel 7770 out of the water.
The graphics card is THE most important part in a gaming build, then the cpu.
Don't skimp on the graphics card.

Now an i5 with a 7870 > phenom II with a 7870
7870>7770

If your budget won't allow a high dollar gpu and cpu in your gaming build, nix the cpu.


I tend to agree with you, but going for such old tech. No way. Rather get an I3 or FX4300 then.

February 20, 2013 9:34:43 PM

Novuake said:
I tend to agree with you, but going for such old tech. No way. Rather get an I3 or FX4300 then.


I was basing it on his amd build to point out that those 7000's are vastly different, but you are right, go with the the i3 or fx 4300 over the Phenom.

Although I am running my BE with a 7870 :)  gonna wait till it drops! haha
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a b À AMD
February 20, 2013 10:27:44 PM

For gaming, the graphics card is all important. The amd build is superior.

As a rule of thumb, spend 2x the price of the cpu on the graphics card.

But, the X4 is old in the tooth, and it is only decent for the price.

On the Intel build, I would opt for 8gb in a 2 x 4gb configuration; a single 8gb stick will only run single channel mode.

If you are looking at haswell, you are looking at both a cpu and a motherboard change.
If haswell is in your plans, I would wait until may or so and not waste your money now.

February 20, 2013 11:36:16 PM

Thx for everything guys, I have 1 last question though.. I'm not gonna be primarily gaming all the time, I'll be doing other stuff with the PC besides gaming.. Does the intel i5 make a big difference outside of gaming?
Would the 7770 play BF3 on ultra @ 1920x1080? atleast 30 fps?
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a c 120 À AMD
February 20, 2013 11:55:37 PM

markus843 said:
Thx for everything guys, I have 1 last question though.. I'm not gonna be primarily gaming all the time, I'll be doing other stuff with the PC besides gaming.. Does the intel i5 make a big difference outside of gaming?
Would the 7770 play BF3 on ultra @ 1920x1080? atleast 30 fps?


NOt even close... The HD7950 barely does not... LOL

Yes the I5 is better in every respect... Its MUCH newer and MUCH faster. But a GPU is important.

I should say save up some more for the I5 AND a HD7870.

If not get an I3 or FX4300 and the best GPU you can possibly afford with that.
February 21, 2013 12:02:32 AM

Novuake said:
NOt even close... The HD7950 barely does not... LOL

Yes the I5 is better in every respect... Its MUCH newer and MUCH faster. But a GPU is important.

I should say save up some more for the I5 AND a HD7870.

If not get an I3 or FX4300 and the best GPU you can possibly afford with that.


I had an HD 6670 1GB GDDR5 before, and I could play on ultra, but turn off all the AA and AF stuff at 25 ish FPS on 1920x1080.

I'll probably just go with what you said and get the i3 with a 7850 or 7870.

Thx
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a b À AMD
February 21, 2013 12:57:09 AM

markus843 said:
Thx for everything guys, I have 1 last question though.. I'm not gonna be primarily gaming all the time, I'll be doing other stuff with the PC besides gaming.. Does the intel i5 make a big difference outside of gaming?
Would the 7770 play BF3 on ultra @ 1920x1080? atleast 30 fps?


No.

If you are playing multiplayer BF3 with lots of participants, it is quite cpu intensive and you really need a strong quad.

In single player, less so.

Regardless, if you want eye candy, you need a good graphics card.
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February 21, 2013 1:14:25 AM

geofelt said:
No.

If you are playing multiplayer BF3 with lots of participants, it is quite cpu intensive and you really need a strong quad.

In single player, less so.

Regardless, if you want eye candy, you need a good graphics card.


Yeah I agree... BUT he only has so much to spend. A GPU will help him more than a CPU unless he can somehow get more for a GPU.
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February 21, 2013 2:03:41 AM

I suggest an i3. This build will beat either of your builds for gaming as it is an XT gpu and it still has upgrade potential for an i5.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ESZD
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ESZD/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ESZD/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($123.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.12 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $620.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-20 23:03 EST-0500)
February 21, 2013 2:23:01 AM

camohanna said:
I suggest an i3. This build will beat either of your builds for gaming as it is an XT gpu and it still has upgrade potential for an i5.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ESZD
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ESZD/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ESZD/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($123.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.12 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $620.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-20 23:03 EST-0500)


On that motherboard you recommended, can I overclock with it? Is it a 77m chipset?
I don't plan to crossfire anything btw, just some very minor overclocking on the cpu and gpu.
February 21, 2013 2:24:05 AM

No H77s don't overclock you will need a z77. That CPU doesn't overclock either.
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