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GTX680 is the best way to go?

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January 4, 2013 7:57:01 AM

Hi everyone, I am about to build a PC but I just don't know what Graphics Card I will buy! I saw a lot of people recommend ATI's HD 7970 over GTX680 because they say it is the best bang for the buck, but I don't know...

I won't be using multiple displays, I'll be using my SAMSUNG 1080p TV as a display, and maybe upgrade it later to a higher res monitor.
PhysX looks pretty good for me.
I won't buy a second card.

I read some benchmark results using the latest drivers for both HD7970 & GTX680 and they were almost the same NVIDIA had better results in some games and ATI in others, but they were using 3 displays at very high resolutions in surround-something :B

Both cards are arround $450 - $500, and the key thing for me is how much a card can defend against time. I really want to play recent games in ULTRA settings and I don't want to change my Graphics card at least in other 2 years... I feel like I would go for a GTX680, but what do you think? Is it really THAT bad against 7970? Is there a better card out there that stays in a similar price? Should I wait for a better graphics card to be released in the next months? By the way, I'll be buying Intel's 3770k! :hello: 

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a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 9:13:56 AM

the gtx 680 is the way to go...waiting for few months is also a good option always(but that wait never ends) ;) 

for a gaming pc....the 3770K is just overkill unless you plan to do much more with it.
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January 4, 2013 9:32:46 AM

Overkill in what sense? Does this processor is very power consuming? I use Photoshop Lightroom a lot to edit photos in .RAW format & every one of them is over 18MB, also in April I will start college and as far as I know I will need to use Almost every ADOBE CS6 program and other design programs, my current laptop with a 1.3Ghz Intel Mobile Processor, Adobe Vegas renders a 4 minute 480p video in 2 days... I am building this PC firstly for gaming and secondly but not less important for my everyday work. :B
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a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 9:50:29 AM

well, if you're doing anything that can take advantage of the extra cores that the 3770k offers (as opposed to the 3570k), then its definitely worth it.

Honestly, between the 7970 and the 680, the 7970 wins in most things now due to huge driver improvements from AMD. If you want to save power and produce less heat, then go with the 680. I'm sure nVidia will catch up with driver improvements anyways.
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a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 9:51:55 AM

the i7 is the best for editing.

To be honest the GTX 670 is pretty much the same as the 680 when both oced and is much cheaper.

The difference is single digit frames most of the time
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January 4, 2013 9:54:53 AM

ARCADDER said:
Overkill in what sense? Does this processor is very power consuming? I use Photoshop Lightroom a lot to edit photos in .RAW format & every one of them is over 18MB, also in April I will start college and as far as I know I will need to use Almost every ADOBE CS6 program and other design programs, my current laptop with a 1.3Ghz Intel Mobile Processor, Adobe Vegas renders a 4 minute 480p video in 2 days... I am building this PC firstly for gaming and secondly but not less important for my everyday work. :B


For gaming its overkill because most games, if any at all don't use the threads on the i7, and the extra cache doesn't benefit either in gaming. But thats for gaming, for other things like video editing the i7 threads will be utilized. Since you do use Vegas and other programs you would benefit from the I7. Also consider the GTX 670 since its almost as powerful but much cheaper.
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a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 10:07:56 AM

ARCADDER said:
Overkill in what sense? Does this processor is very power consuming? I use Photoshop Lightroom a lot to edit photos in .RAW format & every one of them is over 18MB, also in April I will start college and as far as I know I will need to use Almost every ADOBE CS6 program and other design programs, my current laptop with a 1.3Ghz Intel Mobile Processor, Adobe Vegas renders a 4 minute 480p video in 2 days... I am building this PC firstly for gaming and secondly but not less important for my everyday work. :B



that is what i was telling....just for gaming the 3770K is over kill....but since you are into editing and stuff,the 3770K is perfect for you.

no the processor is in fact very energy efficient compared to the other i7s
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a c 171 U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 10:23:09 AM

They test like that because both cards handle 1080 with ease. Its only until you get to those big resolutions where you can notice the difference between the cards.

You said it yourself, they each win some. Three things. First, get the one that performs best in your favorite game. That way you'll have the best performance. Or second, buy the cheapest. If they perform around the same why spend an extra $50 if you don't have to? Finally third, buy the GTX680. Reason being its a 200W card as opposed to the 250W of the 7970. This saves you money over time. Second, you might not go 3 screen, but you might go 3D. And Nvidia is better with 3D then AMD.
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a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 10:41:52 AM

With either choice you make between 670 or 680 get the Asus DCII Top and don't look back.

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a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 10:58:33 AM

+1 for the DCUII. not the top but that cooling is amazing. So quiet and cool.
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a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 11:53:27 AM

In all sincerity, they're both great GPUs. I personally will always lean toward Nvidia because of driver issues I have had with AMD/ATI cards in the past but I can appreciate the quality of their product even if I wouldn't buy it. My buddy is rocking a Evga GTX 680 in his rig and it chews up BF3 on 1080p with everything turned up. You won't regret the investment
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a c 127 U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 12:10:49 PM

^+1
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January 4, 2013 1:19:36 PM

Gtx 670 is the way to go~ the money gap on 670 to 680 can be used for ur family,wife,childern, or neighbour house 40 to ur right xDD

U wont lost any performane compare to 680
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January 4, 2013 1:28:07 PM

Buy a nvidia graphics card, since you are going to use adobe you may benefit from Cuda wich supposely grants vast improvements and speed on rendering time.
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a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 5:54:05 PM

the DC2T is the top edition...the overclocked version.
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January 4, 2013 6:16:45 PM

PhysX is used in maybe 4 triple AAA titles and exactly 27 games in total, it's hyped as some sort of Nvidia super technology but in reality all it means is that in 27 or so games you will get lower FPS with higher physics settings without an Nvidia GPU., the truth is, pretty much any decent CPU(your i7 included) will easily run PhysX better or similar to Nvidia GPU PhysX.

At lower resolutions like 1080p 7970 is slightly behind the GTX680 however the 7970 overclocks much better than the GTX680, and the 7970 also has a 384-bit bus to allow for better AA/AF.
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a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 8:54:20 PM

stuffsearcher said:
Buy a nvidia graphics card, since you are going to use adobe you may benefit from Cuda wich supposely grants vast improvements and speed on rendering time.


nothing vast can be expected from a consumer video card in this matter unless he has a quadro or firepro card
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January 11, 2013 12:42:36 AM

siddharthmukul007 said:
nothing vast can be expected from a consumer video card in this matter unless he has a quadro or firepro card

Yeah, and I exactly expect that, anything is better than a week wasted with my pathetic laptop rendering a video. But it is decided, I'll wait till March/April when "supposedly" the new GTX700's series will be announced. So that way I'll know If it is better to buy a 700's or a *hopefully* cheaper GTX680.
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a b U Graphics card
January 11, 2013 6:22:18 AM

ARCADDER said:
Is there any difference between those 2, other than the price and DC2O / DC2T? Haaa sorry for my noobiness :B


Don't get the top version, Just the standard DCUII as the top versions have been known top have stability issues.
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a c 133 U Graphics card
January 11, 2013 6:34:42 AM

Yea I agree I would not repeat not get the TOP version. The big selling point with the TOP version is that you get a cherry picked GPU which in turn means that there is a higher likelihood of you being able to overclock your card higher. Stick to a normal ASUS DIRECTCUII card if you go with ASUS.

Also, in terms of PHYSX. I love it however I am objective so I'm going to play devils advocate here. I play games that use it if you don't then it won't be useful for you I play BATMAN AA, AC, METRO 2033, Borderlands 2 which all use it. If you don't intend on using it the 7970 GHZ edition will be more powerful then the 680 without a doubt.
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a b U Graphics card
January 11, 2013 6:47:25 AM

+1. Physx is awesome.

Playing 3 player co-op is all the more fun on borderlands 2 wowing over all the fire and particles when one of us is on a 6970. :D 
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a c 133 U Graphics card
January 11, 2013 6:50:55 AM

ARCADDER just be sure you make an informed decision based on what you are after. With the new cards around the horizon one option you could do is buy a EVGA card and take advantage of there step up program in the even the newer cards come out after you build your computer so you can pay the difference and possibly get one of the newer cards. Just a thought.

What you would have to do:
Purchase the extended warranty 15 dollars.
You would have to advance in a card a 660Ti could not be upgraded to a 760ti it would have to be a 770 or a 780 if you follow.
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a b U Graphics card
January 11, 2013 7:03:28 AM

I can see a 780 entering my system in the near future.

Good advice on the warranties. EVGA's ones are always worth the cost.
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a c 133 U Graphics card
January 11, 2013 7:07:58 AM

YUP you can not put a price on service ever.
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January 19, 2013 3:54:02 AM

bigshootr8 said:
ARCADDER just be sure you make an informed decision based on what you are after. With the new cards around the horizon one option you could do is buy a EVGA card and take advantage of there step up program in the even the newer cards come out after you build your computer so you can pay the difference and possibly get one of the newer cards. Just a thought.

What you would have to do:
Purchase the extended warranty 15 dollars.
You would have to advance in a card a 660Ti could not be upgraded to a 760ti it would have to be a 770 or a 780 if you follow.


You know? I have never bought a video card before, but I heard lots of good things about customer service and included software on EVGA products, I also read that MSI is a lot better in terms of cooling that other brands with the TwinFrozr design. A GTX680 is my goal for now, maybe past the middle of the year I will upgrade or go dual cards and that thing you mentioned is actually very important and interesting. Never heard of it! That program also applies to México? I won't buy the card(you name it) here because prices are laughable... it is like 30% or more more expensive to buy a card here that a card ordered from eBay included shipping :B
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January 19, 2013 4:14:33 AM

darth pravus said:
+1. Physx is awesome.

Playing 3 player co-op is all the more fun on borderlands 2 wowing over all the fire and particles when one of us is on a 6970. :D 


Hahaha the one using the 6970 must be like: "Why do this jerks keep firing to that ******* static blob on the floor?" Yeah! It is great isn't it? I totally support PhysX not as a brand but as an enhancement. For me little "stupid" details like tearing apart a fabric piece with bullets or messing around with particles or liquids really makes a difference to the overall experience.

Why anyone wouldn't like the idea of what PysX do? It's like playing a shooter where the gun don't have any recoil or muzzle when firing or playing a driving game where the car moves but the wheels don't spin and the car don't take visual damage when crashing! :B :non: 
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a b U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 4:20:38 AM

More games need to make a push for universal physics for both nvidia and amd.

Soon enough frequent physics will happen and hardware will be coping more and more fluently.
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a b U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 5:29:32 AM

7970 ghz is a overall a bit faster. but you really wouldnt notice in real life

You said you wanna keep the gpu for 2years? Id say the 7970. i rember when people said 1gb is more than enough. then i had to sell my 5870 cause i was maxing vram on bf3. people say 2gb vram is more than enough NOW but what about crysis 3? what about battlefield 3?. id take the 7970 its 3gb compared to 2gb. And like i said its a bit faster. as for phsyx only like 20 games use it. but yea. anyway is just my 2cents laterz
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a b U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 5:37:25 AM

i think first recommendation is bang for buck.

But usually you're right, for future planning of 2yrs or so, it would be wise to think about getting the card that has more to offer.

Some say, its better to have more than enough then not enough. But its at a cost though, some people don't mind spending giving the duration period they'll be hanging onto the piece.
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January 19, 2013 7:01:03 AM

stantheman123 said:
7970 ghz is a overall a bit faster. but you really wouldnt notice in real life

You said you wanna keep the gpu for 2years? Id say the 7970. i rember when people said 1gb is more than enough. then i had to sell my 5870 cause i was maxing vram on bf3. people say 2gb vram is more than enough NOW but what about crysis 3? what about battlefield 3?. id take the 7970 its 3gb compared to 2gb. And like i said its a bit faster. as for phsyx only like 20 games use it. but yea. anyway is just my 2cents laterz


Yeah my mistake, I said 2 years a couple weeks ago because I read people who upgrade every 6 months or so I wanted to be stable with something for a longer period than 6 damn months :B After a second tought I might upgrade whenever I see it is worth the upgrade, maybe a year or 2 or 3, who knows. :pt1cable: 

A GTX680 or a 7970 won't max out upcoming games, but I can live with that a couple years I guess... I mean, I been living with my PS3 and a laptop that barely plays Halo 1 for 6 years aprox. Buying tech thinking in the future is the worst thing you can do and even worse to do so in this generational transition times. Next gen is coming this year so I will buy something that holds up for today's standards and then see how things stabilize to go out and buy another "bang-for-the-buck card" Ha! I chose a damn nice time to build a PC didn't I? :pt1cable: 
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a b U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 7:33:42 AM

ARCADDER said:
Yeah my mistake, I said 2 years a couple weeks ago because I read people who upgrade every 6 months or so I wanted to be stable with something for a longer period than 6 damn months :B After a second tought I might upgrade whenever I see it is worth the upgrade, maybe a year or 2 or 3, who knows. :pt1cable: 

A GTX680 or a 7970 won't max out upcoming games, but I can live with that a couple years I guess... I mean, I been living with my PS3 and a laptop that barely plays Halo 1 for 6 years aprox. Buying tech thinking in the future is the worst thing you can do and even worse to do so in this generational transition times. Next gen is coming this year so I will buy something that holds up for today's standards and then see how things stabilize to go out and buy another "bang-for-the-buck card" Ha! I chose a damn nice time to build a PC didn't I? :pt1cable: 

Haha yep. i bought my pc last week probally a bad time to buy a gaming system since haswell and 8xxx series is comming out but i upgrade every 6-10months anyway.
And i bougth the 6300+7970ghz so when steam roller comes out throw it on and maybie 7970crossfire or a 8970.

Tech is always changing however i like to look foward abit for upgradbitly thats why didnt choose intel ATM since lga 1155 is dead. if you can wait for haswell and 8xxx or 7xx from nvidia That would probally be best. but you seem to answer your own questions haha, laterz
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January 19, 2013 4:22:25 PM

stantheman123 said:
Haha yep. i bought my pc last week probally a bad time to buy a gaming system since haswell and 8xxx series is comming out but i upgrade every 6-10months anyway.
And i bougth the 6300+7970ghz so when steam roller comes out throw it on and maybie 7970crossfire or a 8970.

Tech is always changing however i like to look foward abit for upgradbitly thats why didnt choose intel ATM since lga 1155 is dead. if you can wait for haswell and 8xxx or 7xx from nvidia That would probally be best. but you seem to answer your own questions haha, laterz


Yeah, when I posted this I didn't have an idea of what I wanted and how I wanted, at this moment I know a lot more than before and already know what I want. The only thing I don't understand is that socket thing... What's the bad thing about 1155 being dead? The support is dead or you say it because I won't be able to upgrade to another processor because there won't be more 1115 socket type processors? Im clueless in that aspect.
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January 19, 2013 4:32:59 PM

wow look at all the nvidia fan boys in here LOL. That said 7970 GE is the fastest GPU around and that's not up for debate plus it has better IQ and AA so the choice is clear.

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a b U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 5:57:19 PM

Tom Burnqest said:
wow look at all the nvidia fan boys in here LOL. That said 7970 GE is the fastest GPU around and that's not up for debate plus it has better IQ and AA so the choice is clear.


The GE is as good as an oc'ed 680 if not faster but don't post crap about better IQ and AA.

Who is feeding you that?
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a c 171 U Graphics card
January 20, 2013 12:36:11 AM

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The support is dead or you say it because I won't be able to upgrade to another processor because there won't be more 1115 socket type processors?


Correct. You'll be able to pop in a faster CPU assuming you don't buy the fastest already. But after that you are done. With Intel changing sockets yet again you'll be "maxed out" on the CPU as soon as you build it.
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January 20, 2013 12:38:03 AM

darth pravus said:
The GE is as good as an oc'ed 680 if not faster but don't post crap about better IQ and AA.

Who is feeding you that?

My 20/20 eyes.
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a b U Graphics card
January 20, 2013 7:51:59 AM

Tom Burnqest said:
My 20/20 eyes.


I have yet to see a single test where they have any IQ differences. I regret to inform you that your eysight is going :sarcastic: 
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