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February 21, 2013 4:54:18 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($117.27 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H61M-P31 (G3) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($51.48 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.11 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $534.80
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-21 13:53 EST-0500)

can this handle most games (borderlands 2, Crysis 3, BF3, CSGO, BO2, etc.) on med/high settings, 1080p with 35+ fps?

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February 21, 2013 5:23:30 PM

I'd try stepping up to the 3350p. That RAM is out of stock everywhere (and is an overclockers ram). Get a nice little coupon with that video card, bonus. Are you trying to stay small form factor? If you want room to upgrade (not to mention airflow), I'd suggest stepping up to a mid-atx tower. Corsair 200r is a good choice. Don't forget you need an OS if you don't already have one.

Is $550 you end budget? I can get you a much nicer system (better GPU CPU MOBO) for $100 more.
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February 21, 2013 5:37:35 PM

If you have a microcenter near you, you can get this system for $70 less than it shows (the mobo is $84 and you get $50 off that price). The only reason I built this is to show the microcenter deal. Otherwise, there are other options. This, is a large step up in performance from the one you built for $60 (again, IF you have a microcenter near you).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.69 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.49 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $680.10 (actual would be $610 after microcenter bundle and MIR)
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-21 14:35 EST-0500)
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February 21, 2013 6:22:13 PM

eyeage said:
I'd try stepping up to the 3350p. That RAM is out of stock everywhere (and is an overclockers ram). Get a nice little coupon with that video card, bonus. Are you trying to stay small form factor? If you want room to upgrade (not to mention airflow), I'd suggest stepping up to a mid-atx tower. Corsair 200r is a good choice. Don't forget you need an OS if you don't already have one.

Is $550 you end budget? I can get you a much nicer system (better GPU CPU MOBO) for $100 more.


I definitely agree - if you can step to the 3350P that will be a far better system in the long run.

I'd try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.49 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($213.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $702.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-21 15:21 EST-0500)
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February 21, 2013 6:24:44 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I definitely agree - if you can step to the 3350P that will be a far better system in the long run.

I'd try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.49 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($213.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $702.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-21 15:21 EST-0500)



This is good if you can't use the microcenter deal to your advantage. Otherwise, the one I listed will be $100 cheaper, and perform as good or better. Microcenters CPU/MOBO deals are really awesome :D 
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February 21, 2013 6:38:07 PM

Also playing the Microcenter card... They do a great deal on AMD CPU's + Motherboards at the moment.

If you buy the FX-6300 you can get an Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS motherboard for just $4.99 extra! (It would usually be around $65-70)

With this in mind, you could build something like this:

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS ($4.99 @ Microcenter in combo with FX-6300)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.11 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $531.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Almost the same price with a better CPU, Graphics Card and motherboard. Plus you have the added option of over-clocking this CPU. I wish we had Microcenter in England!!


PS.
Please don't shame me for suggesting AMD! :p 
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February 21, 2013 8:02:25 PM

eyeage said:
I'd try stepping up to the 3350p. That RAM is out of stock everywhere (and is an overclockers ram). Get a nice little coupon with that video card, bonus. Are you trying to stay small form factor? If you want room to upgrade (not to mention airflow), I'd suggest stepping up to a mid-atx tower. Corsair 200r is a good choice. Don't forget you need an OS if you don't already have one.

Is $550 you end budget? I can get you a much nicer system (better GPU CPU MOBO) for $100 more.

my budget is about 750 Including a monitor and some other stuff (keyboard and wireless) but i made a 550 dollar build because id like to spend as little as possible.
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February 21, 2013 8:05:19 PM

casper1973 said:
Also playing the Microcenter card... They do a great deal on AMD CPU's + Motherboards at the moment.

If you buy the FX-6300 you can get an Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS motherboard for just $4.99 extra! (It would usually be around $65-70)

With this in mind, you could build something like this:

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS ($4.99 @ Microcenter in combo with FX-6300)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.11 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $531.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Almost the same price with a better CPU, Graphics Card and motherboard. Plus you have the added option of over-clocking this CPU. I wish we had Microcenter in England!!


PS.
Please don't shame me for suggesting AMD! :p 

I have nothing against AMD as long as its a quad core or greater, but is it possible to get a 9 series chipset?
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February 21, 2013 8:08:29 PM

eyeage said:
I'd try stepping up to the 3350p. That RAM is out of stock everywhere (and is an overclockers ram). Get a nice little coupon with that video card, bonus. Are you trying to stay small form factor? If you want room to upgrade (not to mention airflow), I'd suggest stepping up to a mid-atx tower. Corsair 200r is a good choice. Don't forget you need an OS if you don't already have one.

Is $550 you end budget? I can get you a much nicer system (better GPU CPU MOBO) for $100 more.

form factor doesnt matter to me. i just picked that case since its cheap and good quality and supports usb 2.0 like the mobo. and i got micro atx mobo beause i dont plan on doing dual gpu or sound cards or anything special with PCI
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February 21, 2013 8:12:21 PM

@OP Do you have a microcenter near?
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February 21, 2013 8:19:13 PM

eyeage said:
This is good if you can't use the microcenter deal to your advantage. Otherwise, the one I listed will be $100 cheaper, and perform as good or better. Microcenters CPU/MOBO deals are really awesome :D 


Actually Micro Center doesn't sell the 3350P, they do have deals on the 3570K and the 3470.
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February 21, 2013 8:23:58 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Actually Micro Center doesn't sell the 3350P, they do have deals on the 3570K and the 3470.


Take a look at the "microcenter build" that I had built. :D 
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February 21, 2013 8:36:16 PM

eyeage said:
@OP Do you have a microcenter near?

yea, i live in michigan
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February 21, 2013 8:48:24 PM

Then hop on the build I suggested for you. Microcenter has awesome CPU/MOBO deals. Not only is the 3470 cheaper than anywhere else (149.99) you get $50 off the price of a MOBO. So the built I made for you would cost $610, and would allow you to upgrade your GPU in the future (though the 7870 is a capable card). You might even consider getting the 7870XT for an additional $30 (it's basically a 7930, as it uses the tahiti core). I actually have the 7870XT and it's working out pretty well for me. Both the 7870 and 7870xt come with bioshock infinite and tomb raider games (neither have been released yet), so that's a bonus. This system would run games very well for years to come.
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February 21, 2013 8:50:17 PM

You might be able to save some money on an open-box monitor while you're there, too.
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February 21, 2013 8:55:38 PM

xl_480 said:
I have nothing against AMD as long as its a quad core or greater, but is it possible to get a 9 series chipset?



The FX-6300 is 6 core :) 

Microcenter are also doing a FX-6300 + MSI 970A-G46 for only $145.
FX-6300 alone is $119 so it's a great deal.

Problem? It's an ATX board so you would need a larger case.



Just as a side note - the build by eyeage is totally worth considering.
With that i5 it will outperform this AMD build. Only thing making the choice difficult is that extra $50-60 in price.



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February 21, 2013 10:49:22 PM

eyeage said:
You might be able to save some money on an open-box monitor while you're there, too.

probably a dumb question; is open box monitor the same as refurb?
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February 21, 2013 11:12:16 PM

xl_480 said:
probably a dumb question; is open box monitor the same as refurb?


No, refurb means something was fixed, open box means the box was opened.
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February 21, 2013 11:35:05 PM

eyeage said:
No, refurb means something was fixed, open box means the box was opened.
ok. where do you see microcenters deals on stuff like cpus, mobos ,gpus, etc?
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February 21, 2013 11:47:37 PM

Microcenter.com Though, they require you buy them in store. The $50 MOBO deal I didn't see, but the salesman at the store told me about it when I bought.
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February 22, 2013 2:11:15 AM

eyeage said:
Microcenter.com Though, they require you buy them in store. The $50 MOBO deal I didn't see, but the salesman at the store told me about it when I bought.

Hows this?

AMD:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.48 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.49 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: FX-6300 @Microcenter ($119.99)
Other: msi 970A-G46 @Microcenter Bundle w/FX-6300 ($24.99)
Total: $553.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-21 23:02 EST-0500)

I was surprised at how inexpensive this was to have a fx 6300, a 212+ and a 7850. my only concern is if the gpu is good; its not a a Double D cooler and im wondering if i can get good temps and overclocking.

Intel w/NVIDIA GPU:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.48 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.49 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: i3-3220 @Microcenter ($99.99)
Total: $544.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-21 23:04 EST-0500)

this one is a bit cheaper and of course uses less power but has a 2 core cpu and a bit weaker GPU but im not trying to get 60fps all the time on ultra 1080p.

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is this a good monitor: http://www.microcenter.com/product/399204/G226HQL_Bbd_2...
or this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 22, 2013 3:19:46 AM

I don't know much about AMD. I avoided it, as it seems their processors are hit or miss, and I didn't feel like researching it (and intel is generally accepted as being superior in gaming).

It's really up to you. I would go with the 3350p, or the 3470, personally. I'd also go for the corsair ram instead of the kingston. In the end, your money. :D 
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February 22, 2013 3:38:42 AM

eyeage said:
I don't know much about AMD. I avoided it, as it seems their processors are hit or miss, and I didn't feel like researching it (and intel is generally accepted as being superior in gaming).

It's really up to you. I would go with the 3350p, or the 3470, personally. I'd also go for the corsair ram instead of the kingston. In the end, your money. :D 

do you think that 7850 is any good?
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February 22, 2013 3:54:02 AM

idk, never used it. I'm sure it's probably just fine. :D 
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February 22, 2013 5:28:55 AM

idk, never used it. I'm sure it's probably just fine. :D 
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