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February 22, 2013 8:00:07 AM

This is going to be my first build, and I'm not very pc savvy
So I was comin to you guys for some q's. I'm just trying
2 run counter strike source on med/ hi settings if that's possible.
All I've been seeing is intel vs amd. What's the difference?
If u could put together something for me, i would reall appreciate it.
I don't need a monitor, keyboard, mouse or o.s.
Thank you

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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2013 8:14:28 AM

Just a quick note buy my bro runs CSS on med/high 720p using a e5200 and a HD2600 256mb vram, 4gb ddr2 system ram
(equiv of a g465 and a HD6450) and he hits 60fps+ in all every situation except the 64 man zombie servers when everyone is on fire.
So the rig I picked out is more than enough for CSS 1080p (you have at least double CPU perf and cpu usage in CSS does not increase much with resolution)(gpu is about 6 times as powerful so no worries there)
On my sig rig my fps almost never drops below 100fps with the game maxed out at 1080p

Good 430W PSU and case with front panel USB 3
650ti and g2120 on mb with 4 ram slots (in case you ever need more ram)
1 TB HDD (which is plenty fast, similar pref to my HDD, my load times for the game is about 15 secs and about 15 secs to load into a server as well)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G2120 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($77.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($61.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.52 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $466.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-22 05:12 EST-0500)

i3 where the only major gain is hyperthreading (CSS does use 3 threads decently and 4th one very lightly)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($117.27 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($61.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.52 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $505.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-22 05:23 EST-0500)

Stronger GPU, a 7850 1GB

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G2120 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($77.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($61.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.52 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $521.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-22 05:25 EST-0500)

Budget gaming build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G2020 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($61.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Apex PCV-588 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $389.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-22 05:31 EST-0500)

Absolute cheapest build using an AMD apu instead of a dedicated graphics card

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($59.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Apex PCV-588 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $352.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-22 05:33 EST-0500)
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February 22, 2013 9:39:14 AM

Thanks for the quick feedback. I like the first,second and third build. What's it opinion one the amd phenom ll x4 965?
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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2013 7:05:13 PM

The 965 a nice chip for gaming but it is slower than the Ivy 2120 in most games unless the game makes good use of 4 cores then the AMD can pull ahead

In CSS there should be little appreciable difference

Here is the first build but with a II x4 975 (same price as 965 but faster stock)

Some of the latest games are seeing more usage better threading so the II x4 would do good in that regard
You could even drop to a cheaper case since the mb doesn't have USB 3 headers

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 975 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($82.18 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.52 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $463.63
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-22 16:09 EST-0500)

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February 23, 2013 11:18:49 AM

Thank you for all the help stickmansam. I don't even know what USB 3 headers are haha. I'm really considering the phenom build but if I don't go with that I'm goin with the i3. What is overclocking? Once I get all the parts and put this together is there anything special I need to know? You have been a great help thank you
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a b 4 Gaming
February 23, 2013 6:55:09 PM

Overclocking is when you run the CPU or GPU outside of it specs. The Phenom has a unlocked multiplier to do that while the i3 is more difficult to OC. There is a forum sticky on this in the overclocking section.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274820-29-black-editi...

You will need after market cooling if you want a high OC

Overclocking works because Intel and AMD underrate parts to make sure they will always work and be stable at stock.

You should run some tests on the system like making sure everything is working (like trying all the USB ports etc) and running some tests to stress the system a bit and checking out the temps.
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February 24, 2013 3:28:38 AM

Raiders2612 said:
This is going to be my first build, and I'm not very pc savvy
So I was comin to you guys for some q's. I'm just trying
2 run counter strike source on med/ hi settings if that's possible.
All I've been seeing is intel vs amd. What's the difference?
If u could put together something for me, i would reall appreciate it.
I don't need a monitor, keyboard, mouse or o.s.
Thank you

you can try out some small form factor build like this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FApY
no problem for CS:source on high settings @1080p... you dont really have to spend so much if you're just going to play CS... go for Bitfenix Prodigy if you don't like that CM ITX case... :bounce: 
and you can add in another HD6670 for Hybrid CFX to increase perfomance... ;) 
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