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February 23, 2013 10:25:30 PM

Hi, i am new to this forum I've read on Tom's hardware before but never really asked a question before so sorry if I'm in the wrong thread but enough blah here is my first question :p 

1. I want to build a Gaming rig for home.. i plan on keeping this rig for a long time so future proof is a priority money is not a problem right now so these are the components i want/plan on using

CPU: i7-3970X (Plan on over clocking)
GPU: Sapphire HD 7970 Vapor-X GHZ Edition 6GB (Plan to Quad Crossfirex)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x4GB) DDR3 2133 MHz
MB: ASUS Rampage IV Formula LGA 2011
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 512GB edition
HDD: Western digital caviar black 2tb (x2)
PSU: Corsair Professional Series HX 1050 Watt
OD: LG BH10LS38 10x Blu-Ray Re-writer
WLAN: TP-LINK TL-WDN4800

Now my trouble is that i'm not very familiar with gaming PC cases, and i don't know which one to buy? or where to even start looking to be honest and i want to OC so i want a really good water cooling setup so i need someones help pointing me in the right direction of a really good gaming computer case and a really good water cooling setup, i do care about aesthetics and want my Rig to look crazy without sacrificing much performance, also I am not too confident on the CPU? are there better ones that will give me greater results for less?, its my first time building my own computer so all your ideas, help & opinions will be greatly appreciated, also is the 'Koolance Exos (EX2-1050BK) 2.5 Water Cooling System' a good kit?

2. I NEED to build a server for my business i also plan to keep it for a very long time, I've saved up a lot and its time i really got an upgrade everything else has been but my server has not, oh and these are the main tasks that it will be doing

Multimedia Transcoding
Multimedia Editing and rendering
Control a network for both firms (Mine and my farther)
A storage hub for all the files
Microsoft excel work

I heard that AMD Opteron 6380 are really good but I'm not sure, should i just buy a ready made server from PC word or something because i don't know if they would be up to the tasks
and the server is going to be on 24/7, so i don't think id benefit from any SSD's just a High speed reliable HDD would do me fine they're going to be in raid but they will be on for along time.. i am guessing probably be on until i have a power cut :D  the computers i have in the office are Dell Inspiron 660s i5 with standard 20" 1080p monitors but my server is really old and crappy got it for free of a friend when i first started up, so any suggestions on what i should do? and what should i put inside it? oh and if you think i should build one then give me everything you would put into a server if money wasn't a problem :p  plus i will be accessing this server from home.. that's both the question all ideas, opinions, suggestions will help thanks just need to light shed on my confusion

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February 23, 2013 11:07:59 PM

gaming rig does not require anything more than this. anything more isnt a gaming rig. its a waste of money. futureproofing is impossible. dont try. put as much money as you want into it, but in the end it doesnt work out. and if its your first time, watercooling shouldnt be your top priority. stick with air
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Fxao

ram
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=78420&vpn=KHX16C10B1BK...

hard drive
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70854&vpn=ST1500DM003&...

case
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75047&promoid=1302


as for your server, like how many computers are you serving and what exactly is it used for? (file transfers etc.). if you want power cuts, you are better off with a intel build just saying
February 23, 2013 11:08:43 PM

buy the power supply today. buy 2 of them actually. the odds are that the server can make use of it. very good deal
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February 23, 2013 11:37:57 PM

TheBigTroll said:
gaming rig does not require anything more than this. anything more isnt a gaming rig. its a waste of money. futureproofing is impossible. dont try. put as much money as you want into it, but in the end it doesnt work out. and if its your first time, watercooling shouldnt be your top priority. stick with air
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Fxao

ram
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=78420&vpn=KHX16C10B1BK...

hard drive
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70854&vpn=ST1500DM003&...

case
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75047&promoid=1302


as for your server, like how many computers are you serving and what exactly is it used for? (file transfers etc.). if you want power cuts, you are better off with a intel build just saying


Ill take that into account & but i forgot to mention i will be doing video editing, rendering and using a lot of Photoshop, illustrator and Sony Vegas pro and for the WC'ing i guess there is a first time for everything :p  , i have done computer assembling in the past, setting up ect just never a gaming rig don't assume its much different just its my 1st time doing so.
And for the server i have listed what main tasks it will be doing and it will be transferring files large rendered clips ect.. it will be serving 24 computers and 2 Konica bizhub C353P and 3 fax machines and connected over to another firm through a online server not to serve the computers in the 2nd firm but to transfer files across
February 23, 2013 11:38:08 PM

i contact dell or emc for your server. your looking for a server and somthing that a storage device or nas too. dell and emc has that for small biz user. i say go with dell and emc or a per built hardware is your going to get support and software to make your life a lot ease-re. i would also when you set the server up look for online cloud storage for your most main files. if you go with a free cloud that has 4-10g of space. if there a fire or flood at the shop and the nas system is damaged how you going to get your files off of the system.
February 24, 2013 12:48:20 AM

ok then. hard drive is to be kept the same
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Fy68

-the 3930k is just as fast as a i7 3970x
-the up4 is a better overall board
-the gtx titan has almost no value per dollar but you do get the compute performance and the CUDA cores for photoshop. quad SLI/crossfire is totally useless. those are for the world record people
-case has room for a 360mm rad on the top, a 240 in the front and a 120 on the bottom. its more than enough to cool the whole rig if you want. but if you want to start off with something simple and expand later, get this. its closed loop but it can be opened up for expansion. the pump has enough power to push 2 video cards and the CPU. just that you will need to add more tubing and rads for more cooling
http://www.swiftech.com/h220.aspx
-power supply is still very cheap. go get it. if you are going to plan on 3 way SLI (highly doubt you will need it given how well the titan performs by itself), i can suggest a 1000w psu


server
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Fyeg

CPU. the e5s are better than the new opterons
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6508/the-new-opteron-6300...

newegg price
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6508/the-new-opteron-6300...

-the x79s up5 is a server board, but at enthusiast pricing. if you want you can use that in your gaming build as well but there isnt much difference.
-the small SSD is just for the operating system (whichever you chose)
-the video card is merely for powering a display
-hard drives can be covered by a nas.
-if you are doing many large file transfers, you may want to invest in a intel nic. they tend to be pretty reliable and can team themselves up with other intel nics on a motherboard like this one
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00686I638/?tag=pcpapi-20

nas.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Fyol

-use the fractal case i suggested earlier
-id suggest researching on a raid card. it will be needed to setup a raid for the hard drives that you will put into the system
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