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February 24, 2013 9:52:45 PM

Hello everyone!

I'm new to this sort of thing.
I have done some simple internet research over the years as I am a game aficionado (I'm a Playstation loyal and I spend a LOT of time on the pc). And this site/community is awesome!

So, simply put, I'm no expert and I certainly need knowledgeable advice in most key areas, besides just being pointed to a product. Understanding is required. :) 

My top budget - is around 1000 $/€ (I live in Portugal, European Union);

I do not require OS, mouse, keyboard, sound system or monitor (HP Pavilion 2510i - max res: 1920x1080 - 60Hz);

Overclocking - Maybe;

SLI or Crossfire - Maybe;

I'm trying to find a build that:

- Can run The Witcher 2 (emphasis), Crysis 3, and everything "inferior" at maxed settings at very playable and consistent FPS (my boon is my relatively humble monitor). I do play quite, quite a few games;

- In a word, LASTS. Obviously upgrading here and there over time, my focus is future hardware compatibility. In this regard, I need clarification on motherboard sockets/CPU, and RAM frequency;

- Has good cooling and case, I don't want to risk it. It can get hot in Portugal (40 - 45ºC, Summer), and I don't have a temperature-controlled room :)  .

Finally, I'll only choose Intel CPU's; and the GTX 680 4GB (or 2GB) has definitely caught my eye.

Hopefully I didn't get nothing too much wrong.

Thank you

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February 25, 2013 1:14:49 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FO0k
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FNXv
I have got two here, the first one is around 1050 euro and the second is 1000 euro. It's going to max out every game, upgradable and cool too. I didn't choose the gtx 680 4gb because you don't need 4gb, the games you listed don't really need 4gb and you are using single monitor. No point in 4gb there.
February 25, 2013 1:35:04 AM

I could be wrong, but from reading the Tom's forums, it seems most people here think the 680 is a waste of money. It is only a tiny bit faster than the 670 but it is a lot more expensive.
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February 25, 2013 1:47:32 AM

tigerg said:
I could be wrong, but from reading the Tom's forums, it seems most people here think the 680 is a waste of money. It is only a tiny bit faster than the 670 but it is a lot more expensive.

yes GTX 680 is not worth it IMHO... a GTX 670 4GB will be a better choice... take 4GB of Vram in case you want to add in another monitor for surround setup or game in 3D or apply MODS for games...my build for you are like this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FOrN
Review of the Seagate Hybrid Drive
http://gizmodo.com/5886057/seagate-momentus-xt-solid-st...
February 25, 2013 2:17:43 AM

Like TigerG said 670 performs equal or even better then 680 when overclocked and less heavy on pocket and you save almost $100
The specified room temperature is very high so you should have a decent cooler like Corsair H100i
February 25, 2013 2:19:13 AM

sanilmahambre said:
Like TigerG said 670 performs equal or even better then 680 when overclocked and less heavy on pocket and you save almost $100
The specified room temperature is very high so you should have a decent cooler like Corsair H100i

Or maybe Swifttech H110...:D :D :D 
February 25, 2013 2:37:00 AM

do you really need a 680 or 670? 7970 and 7950 are better price/performance, and in 1080p, you don't even need those really. but as for future-proofing, a 3570k, with a 670/7950 or above and a decent z77 board should be good
February 25, 2013 4:34:31 AM

I second the suggestion on the 3570k. I think both a 680 or 7970 will do nicely so you should consider your options. The 680 prevails slightly in some games and the 7950 in others from what I have seen.
February 26, 2013 4:37:12 PM

pete123edgar said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FO0k
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FNXv
I have got two here, the first one is around 1050 euro and the second is 1000 euro. It's going to max out every game, upgradable and cool too. I didn't choose the gtx 680 4gb because you don't need 4gb, the games you listed don't really need 4gb and you are using single monitor. No point in 4gb there.


Hello
Thanks for all the suggestions.
I'm set on:
- ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (165 €)
- EVGA GTX 680 2 Gb (because it is stock-wise the better card and i'm holding out on OC-ing because of the to-be-expected temperatures, even though my choice is a 430€ Superclocked, but the hot air goes out the case, so, seems smart :) )
- Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (215 € - i5-3570 - 195 €)

I forgot to mention, i don't need an optical drive nor an HDD solution (albeit I was thinking about an upgrade hdd+sdd, and I don't really need a Tb).
This HDD thing brings me to the need to lower the price tag as much as possible.
I very much appreciate the Corsair h100i suggestion, also just seems smart.
What's the difference between the i5-3570k and the i5-3570?

However, motherboard 165€ + i5-3570k - 215€ + GPU 430€ + PSU 160€ + corsair 500R Case 110€ + cooling master hyper 30€ or the corsair h100i 109€
----------1110€ or 1189€
there's still the 8Gb RAM...
Prices from portugal located stores.
How can i lower the price tag?

the case with the top open for fan is important, i know the psu is also crucial, but any suggestions?
February 26, 2013 8:30:12 PM

Njordsjr said:
Hello
Thanks for all the suggestions.
I'm set on:
- ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (165 €)
- EVGA GTX 680 2 Gb (because it is stock-wise the better card and i'm holding out on OC-ing because of the to-be-expected temperatures, even though my choice is a 430€ Superclocked, but the hot air goes out the case, so, seems smart :) )
- Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (215 € - i5-3570 - 195 €)

I forgot to mention, i don't need an optical drive nor an HDD solution (albeit I was thinking about an upgrade hdd+sdd, and I don't really need a Tb).
This HDD thing brings me to the need to lower the price tag as much as possible.
I very much appreciate the Corsair h100i suggestion, also just seems smart.
What's the difference between the i5-3570k and the i5-3570?

However, motherboard 165€ + i5-3570k - 215€ + GPU 430€ + PSU 160€ + corsair 500R Case 110€ + cooling master hyper 30€ or the corsair h100i 109€
----------1110€ or 1189€
there's still the 8Gb RAM...
Prices from portugal located stores.
How can i lower the price tag?

the case with the top open for fan is important, i know the psu is also crucial, but any suggestions?

I would look into this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Has
It has good reviews and it is cheaper than the linked ones. You don't need 750w anyway.
February 26, 2013 8:38:50 PM

pete123edgar said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FO0k
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FNXv
I have got two here, the first one is around 1050 euro and the second is 1000 euro. It's going to max out every game, upgradable and cool too. I didn't choose the gtx 680 4gb because you don't need 4gb, the games you listed don't really need 4gb and you are using single monitor. No point in 4gb there.


You can't suggest links to American stores when the OP is in the EU. You get hosed big time with customs fees and import taxes when importing goods from other countries into EU countries.

Quote:

However, motherboard 165€ + i5-3570k - 215€ + GPU 430€ + PSU 160€ + corsair 500R Case 110€ + cooling master hyper 30€ or the corsair h100i 109€
----------1110€ or 1189€
there's still the 8Gb RAM...
Prices from portugal located stores.
How can i lower the price tag?


So you're in Portugal then. What store are you buying from? If you post that it will allow us to better assist you. If you don't know one the link in my signature will point you in the right direction.
February 27, 2013 3:25:45 PM

Njordsjr said:
Quote:
So you're in Portugal then. What store are you buying from? If you post that it will allow us to better assist you. If you don't know one the link in my signature will point you in the right direction.


Hello

Stores I was thinking of using for different parts:

http://www.globaldata.pt/

http://www.pixmania.com/pt/pt/home.html

http://www.pcdiga.com/

http://www.moddingworld.pt/loja/

These are the ones I've searched.

Thank you


I used Globaldata to price the parts - it seems like a well laid out site:

Case: Corsair Carbide 300R - 79,50 €
PSU: Corsair CX600 V2 - 67,50 €
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 - 131,70 €
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3570K - 213,30 €
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - 31,50 €
RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 1.5V CL9 - 53,10 €
HD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda ST 7200 RPM - 69,20 €
Optical: Samsung 22X DVD Burner - 17,90 €
Video Card: Sapphire Vapor X Radeon HD 7950 - 317,60 €

Total: 981,30€
February 28, 2013 11:39:51 AM

g-unit1111 said:
I used Globaldata to price the parts - it seems like a well laid out site:

Case: Corsair Carbide 300R - 79,50 €
PSU: Corsair CX600 V2 - 67,50 €
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 - 131,70 €
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3570K - 213,30 €
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - 31,50 €
RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 1.5V CL9 - 53,10 €
HD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda ST 7200 RPM - 69,20 €
Optical: Samsung 22X DVD Burner - 17,90 €
Video Card: Sapphire Vapor X Radeon HD 7950 - 317,60 €

Total: 981,30€


Hello

Thank you for you suggestion!

Let me just ask you to read the rest of the thread as I'm not sure your suggestions have taken it into account.

Recap:
- gtx 680 - haven't decided which model, maybe in a couple of years SLI
- asrock z77extreme 6
- i5 3570k
- no HDD, optical drive, monitor needed
- Portugal is hot, sometimes 45ºC Summer, so I think I need a very cool rig, with very good airflow case

Any recommentadions?:
- on a cooler: Corsair h100i, cooler master hyper 212 evo
- on a psu: Corsair tx 650 v2, is it enough? what about stability?
February 28, 2013 3:49:14 PM

Quote:


Recap:
- gtx 680 - haven't decided which model, maybe in a couple of years SLI
- asrock z77extreme 6
- i5 3570k
- no HDD, optical drive, monitor needed
- Portugal is hot, sometimes 45ºC Summer, so I think I need a very cool rig, with very good airflow case


1. Go with the GTX 670 - if you decide to SLI later on it will give you performance that's on par with the GTX 690.

2. There's only a few very minor differences between the Extreme 4 and Extreme 6.

3. I used a 3570K.

4. I generally suggest cases that have excellent air flow and Corsair is among the best you can get. I have a 500R and it runs very cool (my home PC runs a Graphite 600T), I live in Southern California where it can get well over 42'C - 43'C in the summer. So I generally have to keep my gaming systems relatively cool as well. With Corsair cases you can add as many fans as you want.

Quote:

Any recommentadions?:
- on a cooler: Corsair h100i, cooler master hyper 212 evo
- on a psu: Corsair tx 650 v2, is it enough? what about stability?


I'd personally go for a Noctua U9B or D14 over a Hyper 212 Evo: http://www.pcdiga.com/2/4834/Dissipador-Noctua-para-CPU...

If you want a water block the Swiftech H220 will be better than the H100i: http://www.pcdiga.com/2/10014/-Kit-Water-Cooling-Swifte...

650W is more than enough for a single, but for a dual, you will want at least 750W: http://www.pcdiga.com/2/8057/Fonte-XFX-750W-Black-Editi...
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