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February 25, 2013 5:11:17 AM

Hello everyone, this is my first post however I have been reading for weeks on this thing. I am looking to build my first computer and let me start by saying I will be doing zero gaming on it. I am looking to build the ultimate multitasker computer with lots of bling. I am currently going to school for web design/computer networking and want a computer that I can use to setup things as I learn them. Now before everyone tells me you can't run a server, and a video editor and a security system at the same time let me explain. I want to do a lot of things but on a very small scale. For example the web server will host a personal site with little traffic, the surveillance will be maybe 5 cameras. I am looking for more of a way to experience how to do these things. I will be adding things as I learn them so i want a build that will allow me to upgrade as I need.

Here is what is I want to accomplish:
3 monitor setup for when i am programming, or running multiple programs this is the most important to me
Wireless surveillance around my house
A webserver for a small site, and to setup a home network
Data storage and backups for my main website on a hosting plan now.
Light Video editing of web cam videos and HDPVR2 cod gameplay
Lots of Front display gadgets, fan controller, psu monitor, system resources temp gaugaes etc,
Cool leds, memory fans, cool case with a window
LOTS of storage space for 3 youtube channels and website backups.
Case that will not get to dusty but be able to keep everything cool.

What is not important to me
PC gaming
watching HD movies
swap drives - nothing will ever be transported
Cd-rom drive
sound card

Parts I am leaning towards ..... Please give advice on what you think....

HAFX Case- want a big case to fit all my toys in it
I7 - 3770k or 3820
16 gigs memory - idk dual or quad
128 ssd
eventually 5 3 tb drives
*Intel Extreme Series Desktop Motherboard BOXDX79TO http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006...
Corsair h100i cooling fan
Need help with graphics cards don't want to pay for what I don't need
Thinking 1000w thunderbolt PSU because it has a neat Power meter and can't seem to find others (more Reliabale) that have that.

So like I said, I want a build that I constantly add and upgrade too. It will be more for looks but also run alot of applications just not super intensive. I probably wont water cool with loops or anything because I just feel weird putting water into computers cases.


Thanks in advance for everyone feedback and help.

James



Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.:within 30 days

Budget Range: (e.g.: 2000)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Video Editing for Youtube, 3 monitor configuration not counting gaming monitor,Wireless survelliance, webserver)

Are you buying a monitor: Yes / 3 but not in price of build.

Parts to Upgrade: none

Do you need to buy OS: Yes /
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, ncix.com, amazon

Location: Orlando, FL - we need to know where these parts are being assembled and whether there are good store-only deals available

Parts Preferences: Intel -i7 3770 or 3930

Overclocking: Maybe -

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe - i barely understand this.

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February 25, 2013 5:28:10 AM

I am assuming you're going to OC so 3770k over Xeon E3
You don't really need a 1000w psu for this stuff
gold PSU vs Silver do to likely running 24/7
Not a lot of reason to go 2011
The 650ti should have all the outputs you need but you may need an displayport to DVI adapter for the third screen (there is a 650 for $10 cheaper with same outputs)
UD5H for the extra IO
Swap for this if you want thuenderbolt
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz77...
CFX/SLI is running two gpu's at the same time for gaming

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($180.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($135.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($135.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($135.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($135.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($135.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($97.84 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($127.44 @ TigerDirect)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1910.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-25 02:46 EST-0500)
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February 25, 2013 5:34:09 AM

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Wireless surveillance around my house


Wireless surveillance? Do you work for the FBI or something? :lol: 

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What is not important to me
PC gaming
watching HD movies
swap drives - nothing will ever be transported
Cd-rom drive
sound card


DVD drives are $20 - it's worth it so you can back up data. Sound cards are pretty much a wste of money.

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HAFX Case- want a big case to fit all my toys in it
I7 - 3770k or 3820
16 gigs memory - idk dual or quad
128 ssd
eventually 5 3 tb drives
*Intel Extreme Series Desktop Motherboard BOXDX79TO http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006...
Corsair h100i cooling fan
Need help with graphics cards don't want to pay for what I don't need
Thinking 1000w thunderbolt PSU because it has a neat Power meter and can't seem to find others (more Reliabale) that have that.


Intel motherboards are poor choices. The BIOS hasn't been updated in several years and remains text based where Asrock, Asus, and Gigabyte all have modern visual BIOS. Plus Intel has stated that at the end of the year they will no longer be manufacturing motherboards. There's no need to get X79 for your uses, the 3770K performs very similar to the 3820 and there's no extra cost involved. I'm not the biggest fan of closed liquid loops by any stretch of the imagination. 1KW isn't really needed as GPUs have become way more energy efficient. Thunderbolt doesn't have anything to do with power supplies - it's an input interface similar to USB.

Maybe try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($192.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($90.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($144.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($145.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1662.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-25 02:34 EST-0500)
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February 25, 2013 5:41:50 AM

g-unit1111 said:


Thunderbolt doesn't have anything to do with power supplies - it's an input interface similar to USB.




Apprently its a PSU model :p 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

The review doesn't seem to show that it's bundled with a power meter, maybe the newer ones have it?
Newegg doesn't seem to show it

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February 25, 2013 6:09:14 AM

james your better off buying a dvr system with wifi cams. the dvr you want to hide it somewhere in your home. if there is a break in and they steal your pc there goes the video fotage of the people that broke into your home. most crocks that target homes with ccd units...follow the video cables or the ethernet cable back to the unit. most home owners dont lock the unit into an anti theath case.
for home stoaage i would use a nas system.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
does not have to be this costly but something that has the power supply and software for system back up.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
case..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
mb.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0ST...
memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cpu cooler.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
hard drive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ssd.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
blue ray burner.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
wifi card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
video card to run 3 monitors from it with just the right cables.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
keep your system running for many years..way over kill.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
one i would use.


use 3 monitors with hdmi.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2x for the dvi ports.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
one for the hdmi port on the video card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
blue led..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
blue led.
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February 25, 2013 5:15:48 PM

thanks for all the responses, the reason for the wireless cameras was more for watching my two beagles when I am at my computer. They like to get into things even when I am home. Plus to setup wireless cameras around the house would be cool.

I noticed everyone said not to get the 2011 boards, what if I was going to go with the i7 3930 hexacore. What board would you recommend then. I am not the one to build and rebuild so I want to have this system for a while.

Should I go with this CPU then?
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February 25, 2013 5:45:37 PM

MrJameZtown said:
thanks for all the responses, the reason for the wireless cameras was more for watching my two beagles when I am at my computer. They like to get into things even when I am home. Plus to setup wireless cameras around the house would be cool.

I noticed everyone said not to get the 2011 boards, what if I was going to go with the i7 3930 hexacore. What board would you recommend then. I am not the one to build and rebuild so I want to have this system for a while.

Should I go with this CPU then?


You most likely won't need that kind of processing power for your uses. If you want something other than the 3770K then maybe go for a Xeon E3-1280. If you want to get one then go for the Asrock X79 Extreme 6 - it's a great budget board. Otherwise the Asus P9X79 Pro is a good choice as well. Don't get the Sabertooth if you get Z77 - it's a massive heat trap and it's not worth the extra money.
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February 25, 2013 7:10:28 PM

I like the look of the Asus p9x79 pro board better, even though it is $100 more. I want a board with cool style being that my case will have a window and looks are important to me. Just curious if later I want to put the i7-3930 in later can I use the same board? I plan to do a lot more Video editing later and plan on using more advanced programs once I have a computer that can handle it and the time to use it.

Also what is this Smart DIGI asus mentions, is this just a marketing thing ??
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February 25, 2013 8:51:53 PM

Samrt DIGI is AFAIK the way ASUS manages their digital VRM's, just theri way to do it so AFAIK a marketing thing

x79 are comaptaible with the i7 3930 but the z77 is not
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February 25, 2013 9:08:55 PM

MrJameZtown said:
I like the look of the Asus p9x79 pro board better, even though it is $100 more. I want a board with cool style being that my case will have a window and looks are important to me. Just curious if later I want to put the i7-3930 in later can I use the same board? I plan to do a lot more Video editing later and plan on using more advanced programs once I have a computer that can handle it and the time to use it.

Also what is this Smart DIGI asus mentions, is this just a marketing thing ??


I'm not entirely sure what that is - it's been a while since I've purchased an Asus board.

If you want X79 then that is the way to go.

One of these:

- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 25, 2013 9:18:18 PM

So it looks like the X79 board is the real way to go since I can upgrade my CPU later and keep the same board.

Memory slots on the Board, How many slots should I fill up. I saw that it is not good to fill up the whole board as it will run slower then only using 2 slots.
Example 2 x8 vs 4x4, If I go with an x79 board then I have to buy memory in sets of 4 right?
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February 25, 2013 10:35:25 PM

MrJameZtown said:
So it looks like the X79 board is the real way to go since I can upgrade my CPU later and keep the same board.

Memory slots on the Board, How many slots should I fill up. I saw that it is not good to fill up the whole board as it will run slower then only using 2 slots.
Example 2 x8 vs 4x4, If I go with an x79 board then I have to buy memory in sets of 4 right?


Yes you can run it with two sticks, but for the best performance you should be getting four. You will need 1.5V, DDR3 1600 MHz. If you want to set up a RAM disk (similar to an SSD cache but uses your RAM instead) that's when you go with the higher capacity.

Most of the respected RAM brands are G.Skill, Corsair Vengeance (as long as you get low profile), Mushkin, Crucial, and Samsung.
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February 25, 2013 10:39:17 PM

The DX79TO is crap.

Go with the DX79SR if you want Intel, if not, the GA-X79-UD3 will provide much more features than the DX79TO for the same price.

Intel is not actually half bad, they're for people who just want to go into the BIOS once, set their auto-overclock settings for an easy 4.6-4.7, and forget the BIOS ever existed, whereas ASUS/MSi, etc are more for tweakers who want to control every aspect of their OC.

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February 26, 2013 1:24:14 AM

I can honestly say you will never need 128GB of ram unless you want like a massive 64gb ram disk :p 
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February 26, 2013 1:32:12 AM

I know I would never need it but as cheap as memory is It would be kinda of cool to have it. lol Just seems like for the price different of $319 or $369 why the hell not.
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February 26, 2013 1:32:29 AM

I know I would never need it but as cheap as memory is It would be kinda of cool to have it. lol Just seems like for the price different of $319 or $369 why the heck not.
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February 27, 2013 5:04:23 PM

darkspartenwarrior said:
The DX79TO is crap.

Go with the DX79SR if you want Intel, if not, the GA-X79-UD3 will provide much more features than the DX79TO for the same price.

Intel is not actually half bad, they're for people who just want to go into the BIOS once, set their auto-overclock settings for an easy 4.6-4.7, and forget the BIOS ever existed, whereas ASUS/MSi, etc are more for tweakers who want to control every aspect of their OC.


Intel motherboards are pretty much junk anyways especially if you plan to run an unlocked CPU. There's a reason why they're not going to manufacture motherboards any longer as of the end of this year.

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I know I would never need it but as cheap as memory is It would be kinda of cool to have it. lol Just seems like for the price different of $319 or $369 why the heck not.


It'll just sit there not being used. RAM is not really the place I recommend spending tons of money on a build.
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