GTX 660 VS HD 7850

Hi guys, I m about to order my budget gaming pc! Specs:

Intel i3 3220
Asus P8B75-M LX Motherboard
Antec High Current Gamer 520W Power Supply
Corsair Vengenace 1600mhz (2x4gb) 8gb

For VGA I m between these two:

GTX 660 - http://www3.pny.com/GTX-660-2048MB-PCIe--P3233C506.aspx

HD 7850 - http://www.msi.com/product/vga/R7850-Twin-Frozr-2GD5-OC.html

They are the same prices on amazon uk!

Please help me choose the best one!

I will be playing on 1600x1200 resolution!

Thanks
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  1. 660 sucks be a man and pick up a 7850 (inb4 ati fanboy)
    you will be held back by the dual core, try to get the cheapest i5 as they are quad cores
  2. alvine said:
    660 sucks be a man and pick up a 7850 (inb4 ati fanboy)
    you will be held back by the dual core, try to get the cheapest i5 as they are quad cores


    sounds like fanboyism..To op look at benchmarks reviews and go with your best choice honestly but i believe also the 660 will beat the 7850 also i do agree the i3 will bottleneck the 660 so best to go with a i5
  3. can I keep that motherboard and replace my i3 to an i5 3470? the motherboard - http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8B75M_LX/
  4. Get the 660 gtx, your psu can do for the card, the 660 gtx is better, if at the same price, get the 660 gtx.
    The i3 won't bottleneck either of those two...
  5. The stock 660 will generally perform in between the stock 7850 and the stock 7870. The 7850 is a great overclocked though since it's clocked at 900 but GCN can hit 1100 easy and 1200 with a bit of work. The MSI 7850 is also factory overclocked so it will perform closer to the 660 than a stock 7850 will.

    At the same price its a bit of a tossup since with the 660 since you get some extras from Nvidia but the 7850 is OC and has a arguably better cooler.

    You might want to take a look at this website. It aggregates all the pricing info for pc parts.

    http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/parts/video-card/#c=114,113,81,82&sort=a5

    I've selected the 660, 660ti, 7850 and 7870 and sorted them with price.

    Looking at that list, the 7850 come out the cheapest with the MSI 7850 OC
    http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/part/msi-video-card-r7850twinfrozr2gd5oc

    The 660 I would get is this one.
    http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn660oc2gd
    It has quite a bit better cooling (on par with twin frozr) than this one here which is cheaper
    http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/part/msi-video-card-n6602gd5oc

    Paying slightly more than the gigabyte 660 would get you the 7870 with decent specs
    http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/part/xfx-video-card-fx787acdfc

    At this pricing I would get the 7870 over the 660 or just grab the 7850 and stick with it or OC it a bit to 660 levels (no guarantees but very likely). If you aren't too worry about cooling, you can grab the MSI 660. I would not get the gigabyte 660 since it is priced too close to the 7870.
  6. pis13 said:
    can I keep that motherboard and replace my i3 to an i5 3470? the motherboard - http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8B75M_LX/

    Yes you can but unless you are playing heavy CPU games like BF3 64 man multiplayer, no need to grab an i5.
  7. Why be limited tho..i3 is nice and all but eh..
  8. ati for the win b*tches
  9. I m not playing BF3 or that type of online fps games! I m playing hitman, gta iv, alanwake, mafia II, far cry 3, sleeping dogs.... 3rd person games mostly! The cheapest GTX 660 is that PNY, all others 660 s on Amazon uk are 40 gbp more!
  10. is amazon your only vendor because some other sites/stores have more choice and are sometimes cheaper like I posted above.
    The i3 is fine for most of your gaming needs then.
  11. yes mate, only Amazon Uk ships to Malta!! i m going for the i5 3470 to be more futureproof too :) About the vga i think i m going for that pny xlr8 gtx660 oc
  12. pis13 said:
    I m not playing BF3 or that type of online fps games! I m playing hitman, gta iv, alanwake, mafia II, far cry 3, sleeping dogs.... 3rd person games mostly! The cheapest GTX 660 is that PNY, all others 660 s on Amazon uk are 40 gbp more!



    The i3 is suffice, get that 660 gtx, it's a pretty good deal, free shipping(for euro countries) and probably the lowest price 660 gtx in your area, get it.
    If you can pay for the 660 gtx, get it.
  13. pis13 said:
    yes mate, only Amazon Uk ships to Malta!! i m going for the i5 3470 to be more futureproof too :) About the vga i think i m going for that pny xlr8 gtx660 oc


    Sounds like a solid build, that is probably what i would do to if i was on a budget.
  14. I was also thinking about getting the GTX 660 but a TI; i have seen cheap 660s from PNY but i dont know much about this company. I also hear some nasty things about them too, so i am hesitating to buy from PNY.
  15. PNY is fine. Every company has had nasty things said about them. Generally nvidia cards are a little more expensive than ati radeon cards for the performance. (probably because of phys x capabilities). Also the i3 won't bottleneck much but its a good idea to get the i5 to be future proof.
  16. It's a reference card, there's nothing wrong with it, either the 660 pny or the 660 ti pny.
    They also offer same warranty as other brands (3 years) in Europe :

    http://www.pny-europe.com/s/g/Guarantees/
  17. till now all i ve seen is very good reviews about modern PNY vga like the 660 and 670 - http://www.techoftomorrow.com/2012/pc/nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-review-pny-xlr8-performance-edition/

    this is one of them
  18. alvine said:
    660 sucks be a man and pick up a 7850 (inb4 ati fanboy)
    you will be held back by the dual core, try to get the cheapest i5 as they are quad cores

    you are insane. the 660 is far better than the 7850, it is more similar to 7870, and has lower frame latency than the 7870 (meaning games will run smoother)
  19. The 660 does perform but it's a reference cooler which I don't really reccomend. The 7850 is a great overclocker which can hit stock performance between the 7870 and 7950. This card is a 7850 and it's cheaper than the 660 by a bit, better choice to consider than the MSI 7850
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-11200-14-20G-Card-HD7850-GDDR5/dp/B008HV63F0/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1357599980&sr=1-1
  20. iam2thecrowe said:
    you are insane. the 660 is far better than the 7850, it is more similar to 7870, and has lower frame latency than the 7870 (meaning games will run smoother)


    +1 to that. If you do choose the Radeon, I'd personally steer clear of Sapphire. They're often cheap, but I've had a history of bad experiences with them, not gonna risk it again. I was probably just unlucky though, they obviously can't all be faulty. Still, GTX660 is a way better choice.
  21. stickmansam said:
    The 660 does perform but it's a reference cooler which I don't really reccomend. The 7850 is a great overclocker which can hit stock performance between the 7870 and 7950. This card is a 7850 and it's cheaper than the 660 by a bit, better choice to consider than the MSI 7850
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-11200-14-20G-Card-HD7850-GDDR5/dp/B008HV63F0/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1357599980&sr=1-1


    And what's about the reference cooler ? the 660 gtx reference runs cool, and in no point a 7850 will beat a 660 gtx/7870/7950 even oc...that's just speculating...a 660 gtx is better than a 7850 no matter what version of the card, also cause it's a reference card it doesn't mean you can't oc the card...
  22. Sapphire VGAs are famous for black screens and crashes, I ve read alot about them! No way I cant choose a cheap sapphire!
  23. gtx 660 is faster anyday of the week, if ur talking 7870 there pretty close in performance depanding on the game.

    also pis the sapphir cards are of great build, and thats coming from someone whos owned over 5 sapphire cards before :)
  24. I m going for these specs, I m ordering now, so excited :D - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wq70

    some other opinions? everything s ok about it?

    I ve changed the mobo last thing from Asus to a Gigabyte one, hope I did the right choice!
  25. Looking good to me!
  26. PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wqfm
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wqfm/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wqfm/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.55 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $609.49
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-07 19:03 EST-0500)

    cheaper, and better parts, also unlocked cpu, after market cooler for overclocking and better ps and memory :)
  27. yes they are cheaper but in USA not in UK! If I choose those specs from Amazon Uk it will be much more expensive than the build I ve showed you! Here parts are much expensive! Thanks anyway mate ;)
  28. yes they are cheaper but in USA not in UK! If I choose those specs from Amazon Uk it will be much more expensive than the build I ve showed you! Here parts are much expensive! Thanks anyway mate ;)
  29. whats ur maximum budget in euros?
  30. yes, but I can only order from Amazon Uk - sold & dispatched! thats the only vendor that ships to Malta!! :/
  31. whats malta?
  32. maximum budget is 600eu! Malta is where I live, small island in the mediterrenean sea :)
  33. alright, i can whip u up something, u dont need hard-drive case or dvd-burner?
  34. I have HDD, case and optical drive already
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    within ur budget and really better quality :D
  36. thats 250eu more :sweat: i dont plan to overclock, i m building this mid-end PC for everyday use and some gaming! in 2014 I m building a high end gaming rig.... I m waiting for nvidia's Maxwell and Intel s new CPU s! I ll save up money till then! For now this build would do!
  37. u say 600 euros, bro and i delivered within ur budget, ;)
  38. why waste more money down the line while now u can afford a decent rig with good gpu :D
  39. Subtotal: £593.36 plus 8gbp for shipping = 601 gbp = 738 EUROS :/
  40. Go with a 7870

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125418

    $239, Same price as an EVGA 660 I believe, but the 7870 a much nicer card
  41. My build = 570 EUROS
  42. ur currency is confusing,

    whats ur maximum budget in british pounds?
  43. 600.00 EUR = 488.434 GBP is my maximum budget mate
  44. how about 500 pounds?
  45. ok 500 pounds is the very maximum :) btw thanks for the help mate
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    here within ur budget mate
  47. np anytime mate, glad to help
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