Hello, fellow PC fans! This is my first post here on Tom's Hardware. I've encountered this Web site a lot when I've been Googling various questions about what kind of PC and PC hardware I should get. So I figured I might as well head to the source and stop trying to find questions that are similar to mine. Why not just ask my questions to this helpful forum instead to get personalized guidance?
First off, a little bit about myself. I'm 25, looking to go to law school in the next 2 years (currently studying for the LSAT), and I want a top-of-the-line gaming PC that will last me years. Because I work 60+ hours a week at a law firm currently and study for the LSAT in my free time, I have absolutely zero interest in building a PC by myself right now. I'm also somewhat of a novice when it comes to PCs. My current computer (its specs are AMD Phenom(tm) 9350e Quad-Core Processor, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD 4850 video card) was built several years ago by a friend and coworker. I wanted to go the cheaper and customizable route of having a personally-built PC, but I ended up being frustrated that there wasn't one kind of customer service I could go to if it wasn't working, and because I changed jobs, I stopped being in contact with the person who built it, so I was basically left alone. This made me long for having a pre-built PC from a company that I could actually talk to if I had problems.
Now I'm full aware that I would save tons of money by building this fancy gaming rig I want myself, but I've decided against this option and that's not going to change. Like I said, I work all the time, and if I'm not working, I want to be focusing on studying for the LSAT. I've settled upon Maingear from a few sources, but mostly I was intrigued by CNET's review of it here. I wanted to get an absolutely top-of-the-line computer, but I am only planning to game on one monitor (I decided on this monitor, the Dell U2713HM, 27", extreme-definition monitor, which CNET also sold me on), which I've already ordered and should be in the mail by now. So I don't need 3 video cards or the extremely high-end kind of hardware that, say, a Falcon Northwest Mach V offers. I'm pretty much sold on a Maingear F131 at this point.
What I am not finalized on is the set-up of my rig. I will post a rough list of what I've decided on for my F131 so far, but quite a few things are open to debate. I will post the set-up and then talk about some of my questions below.
By the way, if anyone wants to look at the options on Maingear's Web site for the F131 with a Z77 "chipset", here is the link: https://www.maingear.com/boutique/pc/configurePrd.asp?idproduct=1243.
Chassis: chassis-F131m - F131 with VRTX Cooling Technology
Exterior Finish: ext-blackbrushedaluminum - Black Brushed Aluminum
Chassis Modification: mod-acoustipak - AcoustiPack Ultimate Sound Dampening
Chassis Modification: fans-silenx-f131-2x120-2x80 - SilenX 15dB Fan Package (2x120mm, 2x80mm)
Motherboard: mb-asus-maximus-v-gene - Asus® Maximus V Gene Featuring Lucid Virtu MVP, SupremeFX III Sound, CrossFire and SLI
Processor: cpu-intel-i7-3770K - Intel® Core™ i7 3770K 3.5GHz/3.9GHz Turbo 8MB L3 Cache HD 4000
Processor Cooling: cooler-epic120mm - MAINGEAR EPIC 120 Supercooler
MAINGEAR Redline Overclocking Service: redline-turboboost - Intel® Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Memory: mem-corsair-CMD8GX3M2A1600C8x2 - 16GB Corsair® Dominator™ Platinum DDR3-1600 Extremely Low Latency 1.5V (4x4GB)Graphics and GP
GPU Accelerator: gpu-2x-evga-04G-P4-3688-BR - 2x EVGA® GeForce™ GTX 680 Classified 8GB Total GDDR5 in SLI [ULTIMATE - OC+]
SSD Caching For Faster System Response: caching-corsair-accelerator-60GB - 60GB Corsair® Accelerator™ SSD Caching Drive
Hard Drive Bay One: hdd-seagate-ST2000DM001 - 2TB Seagate® Barracuda™ 7200rpm 64MB Cache SATA 6G
Power Supply: psu-corsair-aX-850 - 850 Watt Corsair® AX850 80+ Gold Certified Modular Power Supply ROHS
Optical Drive One: od-slimline-8x - 8X Dual Layer DVD RW Drive Slot Loading SATA
Optical Drive Two: optical-blu-ray-asus-BW-12D1S-U - 12X Asus® Blu-ray Burner External USB 3.0 with Cyberlink PowerDVD
Audio: asus-xonaressencestx - Asus Xonar Essence STX 2.1-channel ONLY PCI-E [AUDIOPHILE]
Ethernet Adapter: nic-onboard - On-board Gigabit EthernetWireless Network Adapter:wireless-killer-1103 - Atheros® Killer™ 1103 802.11n MIMO 3-Antenna Wireless Accelerator
Operating System: os-windows8 - Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit
Security Software: security-MSSEssentials - Microsoft Security Essentials
First question: 8 GB RAM or 16 GB? I've read a lot online that one totally doesn't need more than 8 GB to game on, as no games even use this much, but would it be smart to make this thing future-proof and purely top of the line by getting 16 GB? Other things I plan to do with my computer include watching movies (Blu-rays, which is why I'm getting that pricey, $179 second optical drive Blu-ray burner--I can't believe they don't offer that as the first optical drive!!!) and mostly basic tasks, so I will never be doing anything fancy like video editing, programming, or any other sorts of graphic design. But I do want a computer that will last me a long time before I need to upgrade it again, since I will be in law school and very broke.
Secondly, do you think the AcoustiPack Ultimate Sound Dampening and Silenx 15dB Fan Package add-ons are worth it? They are about $85 apiece.
Also, should I do the Intel Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking (standard option) or the "Redline Overclock My System!" options? Both are free of charge. I'm assuming the Redline version makes it go even faster? Just don't really know much about this....
I am trying to get my Maingear F131 similar to the CNET review model (although with several changes). On theirs, they said they had two hard drives--the 2TB Seagate Barracuda traditional hard drive, and the 60 GB SSD one. I chose the 60 GB SSD "Caching For Faster System Response" option, but I didn't pick anything for "Hard Drive Bay Two" (there wasn't even a 60 GB SSD option on there). Is this the same thing as what they have in the CNET review right here?
Another question: I'm choosing the Intel Z77 "chipset." I decided on this over the Intel X79 "chipset." If I'm only planning on having at most 2 video cards and gaming on 1 monitor, do you think this is the right move? CNET's review had the Z77 it looks like, and the X79 is so very expensive.... I definitely like the Intel I-7 3770K quad-core processor.
Because I like good sound and also have an expensive pair of Astro A50 headphones, I decided I definitely want a sound card with 7.1 surround sound capabilities. There are only two options for audio: the "Audiophile" option, which is the Asus Xonar Essence STX 2.1 channel ONLY PCI-E, and the basic option, which is the Asus SupremeFX III X-Fi THX TrueStudio Pro Premium Audio. Is that second option the built-in sound card? Is that junk compared to the Xonar Essence? Not really sure what to buy here.
I also have no clue about which kind of wireless network adapter to get. I definitely want a computer with built-in WiFi capability, since my current computer always signs offline whenever the ethernet cord slips out, which is a lot. Here are the options for network adapters (along with prices):
1.) Atheros Killer 1103 802.11n MIMO 3-Antenna Wireless Accelerator ($59)
2.) Atheros Killer 1202 802.11n + Bluetooth Wireless Accelerator ($49)
3.) Bigfoot Networks Killers Wireless-N - Ultimate Wireless Network Accelerator! ($49)
4.) Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 802.11n + Bluetooth ($49)
5.) Linksys AE 1000 802.11n Wireless [EXTERNAL USB] ($69)
Should I just get the most expensive wireless adapter (the Linksys one)? I noticed that is external and the others are not.
I went with the most expensive power supply option (although 800W as opposed to 850W is almost $100 cheaper), just because I heard that running two video cards can suck up a lot of power.
One thing I'm actually not completely set on yet, which is a huge deal, is what kind of video card to get. Which is better? Twin GTX 680s or one GTX 690? Or a GTX Titan? I am looking to spend right around that price range and get that kind of card, but I'm not sure which of these to get. Also, I could pay another $100 to get 2 GTX 680 FTW+ 8GB Total GDDR5 in SLI w/PhysX's, instead of my current option (2 GTX 680 Classified 8GB Total GDDR5 in SLI). Is the only difference there the PhysX? One is a GTX 680 FTW+ and one is a GTX 680 Classified, but the Classifieds are $100 cheaper, which is quite a bit. My only hesitation about buying the GTX 690 is that it is only 4 GB total, although it says it has "3D Vision Surround w/PhysX (as does the GTX Titan). Can the 680s not do 3D? And what is the downside of not having this PhysX? I thought all NVIDIA cards had PhysX? I've heard some people say that there are problems with SLI/dual-cards for beginners. Should I be wary of this? If I don't get the dual 680s, which should I get--the 690 or the Titan?
Another question: What the hell is "RAID"? Here are the options for that (none seem to cost any additional money):
RAID
RAID 0 - Increase and speed up your storage array (requires 2 or more identical drives)
RAID 1 - Data Redundancy and Protection (requires 2, 4, or 6 identical drives)
None (what I have selected now)
At the moment I've decided to keep my old keyboard (which works fine) and my old speakers (which work fine), especially as I will probably be gaming with my Astro A50s on, so that saves me some money. Still, my current set-up is running around $4,000, which is a lot more than the $3,000 that the CNET review model costs (I'm not sure why my costs are so much higher? I guess stuff like the audiophile sound card? Pretty much everything else is the same as the CNET review model).
Definitely decided not to get the Web cam, since they are charging a full $100 for that. I figure I can get a much cheaper one elsewhere.
I'm sorry for pestering you guys with so many questions, but even if no one answers, it helps to get all of my questions out onto writing somewhere so that I can organize my thoughts and research elsewhere if I get no answers here. Anyone who answers is a Godsend! I know this is a lot to take in, but I'm a relative novice when it comes to this stuff, and this seemed like the best site to turn to with my PC needs.
Thank you!
Edward
First off, a little bit about myself. I'm 25, looking to go to law school in the next 2 years (currently studying for the LSAT), and I want a top-of-the-line gaming PC that will last me years. Because I work 60+ hours a week at a law firm currently and study for the LSAT in my free time, I have absolutely zero interest in building a PC by myself right now. I'm also somewhat of a novice when it comes to PCs. My current computer (its specs are AMD Phenom(tm) 9350e Quad-Core Processor, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD 4850 video card) was built several years ago by a friend and coworker. I wanted to go the cheaper and customizable route of having a personally-built PC, but I ended up being frustrated that there wasn't one kind of customer service I could go to if it wasn't working, and because I changed jobs, I stopped being in contact with the person who built it, so I was basically left alone. This made me long for having a pre-built PC from a company that I could actually talk to if I had problems.
Now I'm full aware that I would save tons of money by building this fancy gaming rig I want myself, but I've decided against this option and that's not going to change. Like I said, I work all the time, and if I'm not working, I want to be focusing on studying for the LSAT. I've settled upon Maingear from a few sources, but mostly I was intrigued by CNET's review of it here. I wanted to get an absolutely top-of-the-line computer, but I am only planning to game on one monitor (I decided on this monitor, the Dell U2713HM, 27", extreme-definition monitor, which CNET also sold me on), which I've already ordered and should be in the mail by now. So I don't need 3 video cards or the extremely high-end kind of hardware that, say, a Falcon Northwest Mach V offers. I'm pretty much sold on a Maingear F131 at this point.
What I am not finalized on is the set-up of my rig. I will post a rough list of what I've decided on for my F131 so far, but quite a few things are open to debate. I will post the set-up and then talk about some of my questions below.
By the way, if anyone wants to look at the options on Maingear's Web site for the F131 with a Z77 "chipset", here is the link: https://www.maingear.com/boutique/pc/configurePrd.asp?idproduct=1243.
Chassis: chassis-F131m - F131 with VRTX Cooling Technology
Exterior Finish: ext-blackbrushedaluminum - Black Brushed Aluminum
Chassis Modification: mod-acoustipak - AcoustiPack Ultimate Sound Dampening
Chassis Modification: fans-silenx-f131-2x120-2x80 - SilenX 15dB Fan Package (2x120mm, 2x80mm)
Motherboard: mb-asus-maximus-v-gene - Asus® Maximus V Gene Featuring Lucid Virtu MVP, SupremeFX III Sound, CrossFire and SLI
Processor: cpu-intel-i7-3770K - Intel® Core™ i7 3770K 3.5GHz/3.9GHz Turbo 8MB L3 Cache HD 4000
Processor Cooling: cooler-epic120mm - MAINGEAR EPIC 120 Supercooler
MAINGEAR Redline Overclocking Service: redline-turboboost - Intel® Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Memory: mem-corsair-CMD8GX3M2A1600C8x2 - 16GB Corsair® Dominator™ Platinum DDR3-1600 Extremely Low Latency 1.5V (4x4GB)Graphics and GP
GPU Accelerator: gpu-2x-evga-04G-P4-3688-BR - 2x EVGA® GeForce™ GTX 680 Classified 8GB Total GDDR5 in SLI [ULTIMATE - OC+]
SSD Caching For Faster System Response: caching-corsair-accelerator-60GB - 60GB Corsair® Accelerator™ SSD Caching Drive
Hard Drive Bay One: hdd-seagate-ST2000DM001 - 2TB Seagate® Barracuda™ 7200rpm 64MB Cache SATA 6G
Power Supply: psu-corsair-aX-850 - 850 Watt Corsair® AX850 80+ Gold Certified Modular Power Supply ROHS
Optical Drive One: od-slimline-8x - 8X Dual Layer DVD RW Drive Slot Loading SATA
Optical Drive Two: optical-blu-ray-asus-BW-12D1S-U - 12X Asus® Blu-ray Burner External USB 3.0 with Cyberlink PowerDVD
Audio: asus-xonaressencestx - Asus Xonar Essence STX 2.1-channel ONLY PCI-E [AUDIOPHILE]
Ethernet Adapter: nic-onboard - On-board Gigabit EthernetWireless Network Adapter:wireless-killer-1103 - Atheros® Killer™ 1103 802.11n MIMO 3-Antenna Wireless Accelerator
Operating System: os-windows8 - Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit
Security Software: security-MSSEssentials - Microsoft Security Essentials
First question: 8 GB RAM or 16 GB? I've read a lot online that one totally doesn't need more than 8 GB to game on, as no games even use this much, but would it be smart to make this thing future-proof and purely top of the line by getting 16 GB? Other things I plan to do with my computer include watching movies (Blu-rays, which is why I'm getting that pricey, $179 second optical drive Blu-ray burner--I can't believe they don't offer that as the first optical drive!!!) and mostly basic tasks, so I will never be doing anything fancy like video editing, programming, or any other sorts of graphic design. But I do want a computer that will last me a long time before I need to upgrade it again, since I will be in law school and very broke.
Secondly, do you think the AcoustiPack Ultimate Sound Dampening and Silenx 15dB Fan Package add-ons are worth it? They are about $85 apiece.
Also, should I do the Intel Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking (standard option) or the "Redline Overclock My System!" options? Both are free of charge. I'm assuming the Redline version makes it go even faster? Just don't really know much about this....
I am trying to get my Maingear F131 similar to the CNET review model (although with several changes). On theirs, they said they had two hard drives--the 2TB Seagate Barracuda traditional hard drive, and the 60 GB SSD one. I chose the 60 GB SSD "Caching For Faster System Response" option, but I didn't pick anything for "Hard Drive Bay Two" (there wasn't even a 60 GB SSD option on there). Is this the same thing as what they have in the CNET review right here?
Another question: I'm choosing the Intel Z77 "chipset." I decided on this over the Intel X79 "chipset." If I'm only planning on having at most 2 video cards and gaming on 1 monitor, do you think this is the right move? CNET's review had the Z77 it looks like, and the X79 is so very expensive.... I definitely like the Intel I-7 3770K quad-core processor.
Because I like good sound and also have an expensive pair of Astro A50 headphones, I decided I definitely want a sound card with 7.1 surround sound capabilities. There are only two options for audio: the "Audiophile" option, which is the Asus Xonar Essence STX 2.1 channel ONLY PCI-E, and the basic option, which is the Asus SupremeFX III X-Fi THX TrueStudio Pro Premium Audio. Is that second option the built-in sound card? Is that junk compared to the Xonar Essence? Not really sure what to buy here.
I also have no clue about which kind of wireless network adapter to get. I definitely want a computer with built-in WiFi capability, since my current computer always signs offline whenever the ethernet cord slips out, which is a lot. Here are the options for network adapters (along with prices):
1.) Atheros Killer 1103 802.11n MIMO 3-Antenna Wireless Accelerator ($59)
2.) Atheros Killer 1202 802.11n + Bluetooth Wireless Accelerator ($49)
3.) Bigfoot Networks Killers Wireless-N - Ultimate Wireless Network Accelerator! ($49)
4.) Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 802.11n + Bluetooth ($49)
5.) Linksys AE 1000 802.11n Wireless [EXTERNAL USB] ($69)
Should I just get the most expensive wireless adapter (the Linksys one)? I noticed that is external and the others are not.
I went with the most expensive power supply option (although 800W as opposed to 850W is almost $100 cheaper), just because I heard that running two video cards can suck up a lot of power.
One thing I'm actually not completely set on yet, which is a huge deal, is what kind of video card to get. Which is better? Twin GTX 680s or one GTX 690? Or a GTX Titan? I am looking to spend right around that price range and get that kind of card, but I'm not sure which of these to get. Also, I could pay another $100 to get 2 GTX 680 FTW+ 8GB Total GDDR5 in SLI w/PhysX's, instead of my current option (2 GTX 680 Classified 8GB Total GDDR5 in SLI). Is the only difference there the PhysX? One is a GTX 680 FTW+ and one is a GTX 680 Classified, but the Classifieds are $100 cheaper, which is quite a bit. My only hesitation about buying the GTX 690 is that it is only 4 GB total, although it says it has "3D Vision Surround w/PhysX (as does the GTX Titan). Can the 680s not do 3D? And what is the downside of not having this PhysX? I thought all NVIDIA cards had PhysX? I've heard some people say that there are problems with SLI/dual-cards for beginners. Should I be wary of this? If I don't get the dual 680s, which should I get--the 690 or the Titan?
Another question: What the hell is "RAID"? Here are the options for that (none seem to cost any additional money):
RAID
RAID 0 - Increase and speed up your storage array (requires 2 or more identical drives)
RAID 1 - Data Redundancy and Protection (requires 2, 4, or 6 identical drives)
None (what I have selected now)
At the moment I've decided to keep my old keyboard (which works fine) and my old speakers (which work fine), especially as I will probably be gaming with my Astro A50s on, so that saves me some money. Still, my current set-up is running around $4,000, which is a lot more than the $3,000 that the CNET review model costs (I'm not sure why my costs are so much higher? I guess stuff like the audiophile sound card? Pretty much everything else is the same as the CNET review model).
Definitely decided not to get the Web cam, since they are charging a full $100 for that. I figure I can get a much cheaper one elsewhere.
I'm sorry for pestering you guys with so many questions, but even if no one answers, it helps to get all of my questions out onto writing somewhere so that I can organize my thoughts and research elsewhere if I get no answers here. Anyone who answers is a Godsend! I know this is a lot to take in, but I'm a relative novice when it comes to this stuff, and this seemed like the best site to turn to with my PC needs.
Thank you!
Edward