Build around the i7 3770k or wait for the new intel chips?

[DHGAME]

Hello I am looking to make a build around the i7 3770k and one gtx 670 and then in the future add another one. The build will be mostly for gaming, programming, and engineering programs like autocad. My question is if I should wait on for the new intel chips to come out which I believe is somewhere in june or should I just go ahead and built it. Will there be a difference in prices to wait to get the i7 3770k or get the new chip? So what do you guys think or recommend?

 

[sharkbyte5150]

Definitely something to consider because once you commit to Haswell, you have to commit all the way because they will use a new socket type. Therefore, you can't buy a socket 1155 mobo with the 3770K and then throw in Haswell later.

Early results show that Haswell won't blow Ivy Bridge away in any aspect and aside from some early deals (CPU/mobo) from retailers, prices won't be much different. Also, don't expect the 3770K prices to drop much once Haswell come out.

If you have the money and you're ready to build, stick with Ivy Bridge.
Don't waste money on the 3770K unless you will be using programs that make use of hyperthreading. Otherwise, the i5-3570K is the choice if your main usage is gaming.

 

[Wisecracker]

Pretty much what Shark said ... or, otherwise get an AMD FX-Piledriver. The next-gen FX-Steamroller cores will likely be the last AM3+ processor.

 

[DHGAME]

I didnt know about the chips so thats good to know. I think I will go with the i5 3570k since I already have a mobo in mind with 1155. Do you think a build with the i5 3570k and gtx 670 sli will last me a couple of years before upgrading? I want to drop about $1600 on a build not including monitor but I want it to last me a couple of years before upgrading.

 

[sharkbyte5150]

Which mobo did you have in mind?

I recently put together this list below and got a lot of positive response for it....

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FvyF
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FvyF/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FvyF/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 330 Series 180GB 2.5" SSD ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $909.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-23 18:30 EST-0500)

The 3570K with your choice between 670 or 7950 from my list will last you quite a while before you need to upgrade, depending on what would make you feel the need to.

 

[DHGAME]

It was the Gigabyte UD5 but now im thinking of getting something cheaper... Im working on a build and ill let you guys know what I came up with to see what you think.

 

[Wisecracker]

Sometimes, going multi-card is the best option.

Sometimes, dumping the used card and going with the fastest single card within your budget at the time is a better option.

There will be some killer cards coming out in the next 2 years as AMD and nVidia move to 20nm.

 

[babernet_1]

Certainly if you simply want a gaming machine that gives the best performance per dollar, the I5-3570K is the way to go, no doubt. Of course you will want to overclock it.

I, however, am intrigued with the Haswell. It will be about 5 to 10% faster, clock to clock, than the Ivy Bridge. That alone is nothing to sneeze at. Just think, you'd have to overclock a Ivy Bridge to 5GHz, which cannot be done without liquid nitrogen, to equal a Haswell at 4.5GHz, a value, that at least with Ivy Bridge, is reachable with a good air cooler.

Beyond that, the Haswell has many architecture improvements that will save power, which equals faster clock frequencies. Look for the Haswell to be more overclockable than the Ivy Bridge. Also, many of the improvements have to do with making it easier and faster for multi-core programming. Look for more multi-core games and other programs. It seems that with new drivers, the Haswell can be many times faster with some programs/games as it will ease and simplify the transition to multi-core programs. The 1150 motherboards will have greater functionality and will be more future proof than the 1155 boards. For the wait of only three months, I'm waiting.

I note that you will be doing some engineering programs. I am a chip designer, and multi-core programs run much faster. I'd say you should wait too. Of course this depends on your immediate needs.

I think I just may buy the I7-4770K, for those eight threads will most likely be used in the following year or two by games and engineering programs alike.

 

[DHGAME]

Do they have a price out for the 4770k or do you have an idea of an estimate?

 

[babernet_1]

Do they have a price out for the 4770k or do you have an idea of an estimate?

The die is about the same size, a bit bigger. I'd say they will be maybe 15% more, a wild guess for sure though.

 

[DHGAME]

After all I've decided to go ahead and start the build rather than wait. I figured 3 or 4 months before it comes and price will be higher and some parts may not be compatible with the new chips. Overall I think the build I have in mind will still be pretty good and will last me for a while. So this is what I ended up with

- Intel Core i7-3770K Quad-Core Processor 3.5 GHz 8 MB
- Gigabyte Intel Z77 LGA1155 CrossFireX/SLI Dual
- EVGA GeForce GTX670 FTW 2048MB
- Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz
- Seagate ST2000DM001 Barracuda 7200RPM 2 TB SATA 6 GB/s
- Crucial m4 128GB 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SATA 6Gb/s
- NZXT Phantom 410 Mid Tower USB 3.0 Gaming Case - Black - NZXT Technologies
- Corsair CX750 Builder Series ATX 80 PLUS Bronze Certified
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
- Asus 24xDVD-RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST
- Windows 8 Professional System Builder DVD 64-Bit

Before taxes and discounts it comes out to $1550 though I am still not sure how much taxes I will have to pay since all parts are from amazon and I usually never pay taxes there (Im in Texas).

So I will be adding in the future a better liquid cooling fan, another dvd drive, another gtx 670, and will overclock. But that will probably be in about a year from now. So for this build what suggestions do you guys have. And is there anything you guys see that wont fit or wont be compatible that I may have missed.

 

[sharkbyte5150]

Looks good, nothing I'd change for any reason other than personal preference, no incompatibilities or anything.

Any particular reason you feel the need to have 16GB of RAM?
Even hardcore gamers don't utilize that much.

 

[redeemer]

FX 8350

 

[Bryman]

I recommend from my experience don't go sli/crossfire like in world of Warcraft it can't do sli and it only uses one graphics card and kept capping my fps to 50... I recommend either getting one 670 or getting a 680 but whatever you like or guess... And I recommend getting an i5 then upgrading to something bigger later in the future

I have an i73770k and a 7970HD I tried 2 7850HD but didn't work so well so I just gave one away and kept one as a spare...

Just noticed how long ago the last post was and when this topic was started... Whoops lol