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February 25, 2013 8:46:20 PM

As the title states, I have never built a PC on my own (I have only merely changed/upgraded components here and there on prebuilt machines). I have looked on some written and video tutorials online and have come up with a, hopefully, good parts list for my new build.

As far as some certain requirements I have due to money and personal preference:
-I would like for it to be able to upgrade to 64 gb of ram at some point and start out with a minimum of 16
-64 bit
-needs to stay under $2k, preferably in the $0 - $1500 range.
-Plenty of room for upgrades/expansion
-At least 4 gb of video memory via a single video card or via SLI/Crossfire
-Intel based, no AMD please...
-I prefer NVidia, but it's not totally required.

Here is the list I have come up with from newegg:

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Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Item #: N82E16822136533Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$104.99
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CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC ... Item #: N82E16817139011Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$30.00 Instant

$189.99$159.99
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Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM Item #: N82E16835100007Return Policy: Consumable Item Refund Only Return Policy -$4.00 Instant

$11.99$7.99
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ASUS P9X79 PRO LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS ASUS P9X79 PRO LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS Item #: N82E16813131800Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
$319.99
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Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73820 Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73820 Item #: N82E16819115229Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
$299.99
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM Item #: N82E16832116986Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
$99.99
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COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+ COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel ... Item #: N82E16835103099Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$1.00 Instant
$5.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$37.99$36.99
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ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM Item #: N82E16827135247Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$8.00 Instant

$67.99$59.99
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Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CT040G3K5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CT040G3K5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Item #: N82E16820167044Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy -$10.00 Instant

$104.99$94.99
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Corsair Obsidian Series 650D (CC650DW-1) Black Steel structure with black brushed aluminum faceplate ATX Mid Tower Computer Case CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M2A1600C10R



• Corsair Obsidian Series 650D (CC650DW-1) Black Steel structure with black brushed aluminum faceplate ATX Mid Tower Computer ... Item #: N82E16811139006 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

• CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M2A1600C10R Item #: N82E16820233386 Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
-$25.00 Instant
-$30.00 Combo
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$291.98 $236.98
Subtotal: $1,421.89


Sorry if this is horrible structuring and/or hard to read. First post... first build... lol

Thank you for your time...

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February 25, 2013 8:49:52 PM

the last part is a combo deal including a case and ram
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February 25, 2013 10:04:21 PM

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-I would like for it to be able to upgrade to 64 gb of ram at some point and start out with a minimum of 16


What's the primary use for this build? Unless you're setting up a RAM disk you will never need or even remotely come close to using 64GB.

I'd ditch the SSD - the Intel 320 is horrendous and 40GB will barely hold an OS install. Arctic thermal compound isn't necessary when the stuff that comes with your fan is better.
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February 26, 2013 9:54:51 AM

Here is a revised and much easier to read list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/G67X

I will probably scavenge the soundcard off my old pc and I was wondering if the stock case fans and the after market cpu fan would be enough to cool all of this?

The main purpose for this PC is high end gaming and I want to try to future proof it as much as possible. I would like for this to remain "current" or "relevant" for at least 4 years, hopefully more, but that's probably pushing it I would assume? I don't store a lot of data such as music or movies and I don't have an issue uninstalling and reinstalling games from time to time, via Steam. I may do light photo editing, but nothing major and definitely nothing 3D.
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February 26, 2013 10:08:19 AM

That GTX630....
You realize the amount of video memory has no impact to performance until you run out of it? At 1080p, that's pretty hard to do to a 2GB card. The GTX630 is a pathetic gaming GPU, youv gone overkill everywhere on the rig then crippled it with a weak graphics card.

Would go back to the drawing board and make a more balanced rig.
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February 26, 2013 10:36:59 AM

manofchalk said:
That GTX630....
You realize the amount of video memory has no impact to performance until you run out of it? At 1080p, that's pretty hard to do to a 2GB card. The GTX630 is a pathetic gaming GPU, youv gone overkill everywhere on the rig then crippled it with a weak graphics card.

Would go back to the drawing board and make a more balanced rig.


First off, thank you for the replies guys. Second, I have two questions for you manofchalk:

-Do you have any suggestions for a single 4gb card or two 2gb cards?

-If a solution was found for the first question, would the rest of the rig be ok? I don't mind overkill for the most part, but not if it's to the point of being completely useless forever and ever. I guess going back to the first question, if you feel a great 2gb card by itself would be good for now, I would be fine with saving the money on that option.
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February 26, 2013 5:06:04 PM

Mykk_Robo said:
Here is a revised and much easier to read list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/G67X

I will probably scavenge the soundcard off my old pc and I was wondering if the stock case fans and the after market cpu fan would be enough to cool all of this?

The main purpose for this PC is high end gaming and I want to try to future proof it as much as possible. I would like for this to remain "current" or "relevant" for at least 4 years, hopefully more, but that's probably pushing it I would assume? I don't store a lot of data such as music or movies and I don't have an issue uninstalling and reinstalling games from time to time, via Steam. I may do light photo editing, but nothing major and definitely nothing 3D.


Pairing an incredibly low end GPU with a really high end CPU makes the whole build irrelevant. The GT630 will majorly bottleneck the i7.

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-If a solution was found for the first question, would the rest of the rig be ok? I don't mind overkill for the most part, but not if it's to the point of being completely useless forever and ever. I guess going back to the first question, if you feel a great 2gb card by itself would be good for now, I would be fine with saving the money on that option.


For high end gaming spend way more on the GPU and way less on the CPU. Unless you're doing some hardcore video editing you won't benefit from X79 or Xeon. You also won't benefit from 32GB of RAM on most every day uses. That GT630 will get you like 3 FPS in BF3. :lol: 

Future proofing is kind of a moot point - you won't buy a new CPU and GPU every two years and by the time you are ready there will be newer and better stuff out there. It's better to plan for now rather than later.

Get this instead:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($148.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($144.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($145.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1878.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-26 14:04 EST-0500)
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February 26, 2013 5:06:16 PM

duplicate post, argh!!!
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February 26, 2013 5:55:11 PM

Best answer selected by Mykk_Robo.
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February 26, 2013 5:57:18 PM

I think that literally the only things I would maybe want to change on that are the case, which is semi-superficial, and maybe have an optical drive that can play Blu-ray. Other than that, thank you very much, that build looks great :D 
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February 26, 2013 7:03:23 PM

These are the only two changes I'm looking at:

-Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Gunmetal Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
-LITE-ON Black Internal 12X Blu-ray Combo SATA Model ihes112-04 - OEM
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February 26, 2013 7:06:03 PM

Mykk_Robo said:
These are the only two changes I'm looking at:

-Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Gunmetal Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
-LITE-ON Black Internal 12X Blu-ray Combo SATA Model ihes112-04 - OEM


Not worth paying money for the BD-R drive. The software isn't included on OEM models and costs an extra $100 a license.

The C70 is OK, the NZXT Phantom 630 would be a better pick IMO if you like the gun metal color.
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February 26, 2013 7:18:35 PM

Ah, I didn't realize that about the BD-R drive, thanks! I'm going to check that case out right now and decide between the two. Other than that, I think I have my build! One last question though lol...

The cooling/airflow aspect of this build looks to be ok? I'd hate to get all this and burn it all up...
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February 26, 2013 7:39:25 PM

Mykk_Robo said:
Ah, I didn't realize that about the BD-R drive, thanks! I'm going to check that case out right now and decide between the two. Other than that, I think I have my build! One last question though lol...

The cooling/airflow aspect of this build looks to be ok? I'd hate to get all this and burn it all up...


That won't happen. Your system's air flow is determined by the position of your heat sink. I'd suggest reading this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooling-airflow-hea...
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February 26, 2013 7:53:58 PM

Thanks for the info and I think I'm going to stick with the c70. The NZXT case was very tempting though. Thanks a lot for your help, I think I'm about ready to order some parts, once I have a chit-chat with the wife and my wallet lol...
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