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February 25, 2013 11:27:31 PM

Will be ordering this friday.

Two builds ( NOT INTENDED FOR GAMING) - only for converting/watching hd video, and basic computing task.

House gets extremely hot in the summer, so im partial to the corsair 600t (as it looks like a great cooling case) and partial to the asrock 990fx extreme motherboard, for its 8 sata ports and its pata connection as well.

also rying to build systems that will NOT need to be upgraded for several years.

first system (hd video converting/watching)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/G0y0

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/G0y0
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/G0y0/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/G0y0/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8120 3.1GHz 8-Core Processor ($153.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($148.47 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($97.59 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GT 430 2GB Video Card ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 600T White Graphite ATX Mid Tower Case ($148.15 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $931.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-25 20:25 EST-0500)




second system - (basic task - surfing - e-mail)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FdRL

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FdRL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FdRL/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FdRL/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A6-3500 2.1GHz Triple-Core Processor ($67.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI A55M-P33 Micro ATX FM1 Motherboard ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Smart Tracer 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.46 @ Outlet PC)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($38.24 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $401.63
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-25 20:25 EST-0500)

Both systems total around 1400 which is where i would like to stay. (would prefer to shop at one place, but if discounts are great, its always good to save money lol)
thanks in advance for checking.

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February 25, 2013 11:42:03 PM
February 27, 2013 4:18:52 PM

anyone else?
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February 27, 2013 4:34:09 PM

Why not just get one $1400 system instead of two? I'm not sure I get that one.
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February 27, 2013 4:44:20 PM

If you can live with the APU build, it doesn't have any glaring issues I see.
The first build has a bunch of problems.
You don't want a Bulldozer FX processor - even if you want AMD you want FX-8320, not FX-81XX. For the same price as that build, you should swap in an i5-3570k and a cheap Z77 board like the Asrock Pro 3 in the latest system builder and just use the HD-4000 graphics. In any case don't spend $70 on that graphics card - you shouldn't be spending more than $20 after rebate for a non-gaming graphics card.
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February 27, 2013 4:46:12 PM

jacobsta811 said:
If you can live with the APU build, it doesn't have any glaring issues I see.
The first build has dozens of problems.
You don't want a Bulldozer FX processor - even if you want AMD you want FX-8320, not FX-81XX. For the same price as that build, you should swap in an i5-3570k and a cheap Z77 board like the Asrock Pro 3 in the latest system builder and just use the HD-4000 graphics. In any case don't spend $70 on that graphics card - you shouldn't be spending more than $20 after rebate for a non-gaming graphics card.


Yeah I'd agree with this. Even if you're not gaming an i5-3350P and a GTX 660 will be a far better choice than an FX-8120 would be.
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February 27, 2013 5:56:56 PM

sorry there are two seperate systems for two seperate people, i appologize, but i thought that was evident.
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February 27, 2013 6:19:25 PM

Okay i kept everything else the same, but swapped the Fx-8120 for the intel 15-3570k and swapped the amd Motherboard for a Asrock z77 pro. then removed the graphics card, as i see that intel cpu has the integrated graphics.

My only problem is Im building a system that replaces one that i built and have been using for the past 13 years. So i still have two pata drives that i would like to use, and that board had 8 sata slots. I dont see any reasonable priced z77 boards with pata and or 8 sata slots. I need a lot of storage.

Can you tell me specifically what is wrong with the fx-8120 and that amd board, they fit my needs perfectly. I will be oredering what ever system tomorrow. And thought i had done enough research
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February 27, 2013 6:22:04 PM

Pghkevy said:
sorry there are two seperate systems for two seperate people, i appologize, but i thought that was evident.


Ah OK that makes a lot more sense now.

On the second build if you want to do an APU build right this is what you should get:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4 ATX FM2 Motherboard ($85.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.17 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $487.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-27 15:16 EST-0500)

And then for your main system I honestly would not get an AMD FX. An Intel 3350P and a GTX 660 / 660TI would be a far better combination if you want to do video editing and encoding:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($148.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.64 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $950.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-27 15:21 EST-0500)
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February 27, 2013 6:23:22 PM

You won't find a reasonably priced board with Parallel ATA. It has been obsolete for almost 8 years now, and only a few specialty boards still have it. 8 SATA is not hard - for example AsRock z77 extreme 4 is a quality board with 8 SATA. Or you can just buy a pci-e SATA expansion card , ie http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You can do the same thing for parallel ATA if you want (ie http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...), but those drives are going to be so much slower than the best you can get today, I am not sure why you would bother.
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February 27, 2013 6:27:36 PM

jacobsta811 said:
You won't find a reasonably priced board with Parallel ATA. It has been obsolete for almost 8 years now, and only a few specialty boards still have it. 8 SATA is not hard - for example AsRock z77 extreme 4 is a quality board with 8 SATA. Or you can just buy a pci-e SATA expansion card , ie http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You can do the same thing for parallel ATA if you want (ie http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...), but those drives are going to be so much slower than the best you can get today, I am not sure why you would bother.



I'm not Looking to buy new pata drives, i already have 3 that are perfectly fine, and currently are in use
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February 27, 2013 6:27:37 PM

I see g-unit just responded. The A10 system is a great choice if you want to spend the extra $200 over the system you had specified earlier (g-unit missing windows), but your original specs are enough for an HTPC.
The second system you don't want unless you are actually gaming; but most important do *not* get the i5-3350P if you are going to use integrated graphics - that particular chip has the integrated graphics disabled.
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February 27, 2013 7:27:05 PM

jacobsta811 said:
I see g-unit just responded. The A10 system is a great choice if you want to spend the extra $200 over the system you had specified earlier (g-unit missing windows), but your original specs are enough for an HTPC.
The second system you don't want unless you are actually gaming; but most important do *not* get the i5-3350P if you are going to use integrated graphics - that particular chip has the integrated graphics disabled.


I usually don't include OS if the OP has it already. You can get a Windows 7 3-pack and it will cover both systems for like $150.
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February 27, 2013 10:01:43 PM

but can someone please explain what is so bad about the fx-8120, ive read good reviews, also the amd cpu, the gpu and the board come out to be cheaper than the intel cpu and mobo
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February 27, 2013 11:16:45 PM

The FX-81XX is the first generation of an architecture that has modules with resources shared between two "cores" (bulldozer). The FX-8320 is the second generation of the architecture where they improved it somewhat including making some of the resources less shared (does more work per clock). Vs the intel processors the FX processors do less work per clock, and use much more power doing it because they are built with a larger process (essentially, older technology).
I'm not sure how you are doing your adding, using PCPartpicker replacing the motherboard, processor, and GPU with an i5-3570k + asrock Extreme 4 for the 8 SATA is still cheaper than your original build. An FX process *can* be cheaper than this if you spend more like $75 on an AM3+ motherboard and $20 on a cheap 2d graphics card, but ultimately the i5-3570k is a much more powerful processor than the FX series overall.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Gsr5
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Gsr5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Gsr5/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($223.79 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($92.99 @ Adorama)
Case: Corsair 600T White Graphite ATX Mid Tower Case ($148.15 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $907.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-27 20:13 EST-0500)

Edit to add: If you are looking to save money over this change the case first - you could easily put all this into say a Xigmatek Midgard or NZXT Source 210 Elite and if you buy 3 or 4 120mm fans to fill those up with fans they will cool just as well.
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February 28, 2013 10:44:10 AM

Okay thank you Very much for your time and help.
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February 28, 2013 10:45:02 AM

Best answer selected by Pghkevy.
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