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February 26, 2013 1:46:41 PM

I know I know, it's a terrible idea to have all of these rolled into one :) 
However, I think the way I may have this current build it may yest still work. I am a little new at this so please let me know what you think and if i have anything wrong.

My hope is to have a htpc that doubles as a home web and file server. This would mean 24/7 consumption so it would require low power consumption.

At the same time I would like this machine to be able to run high end games at a reasonable pace, but not require the power necessary for that at all times. I hope to achieve this by getting both a integrated card and dedicated and switching between them if this is possible.

So here is my current idea for the build:

Budget:
500-700 $

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Card:
SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready (When Available)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Misc:
6 gig DDR3 RAM
RAID 1 -> 2 WD RED 2TB
2 x WD Green 1.5 TB
(already have these so not part of budget)

Please let me know what you think, if there are any better parts out there for me, and if this whole project is even doable?

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February 26, 2013 1:57:33 PM

You have picked products from the past generation. What's your budget for this?
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February 26, 2013 2:05:24 PM

I'm trying to keep this from going balls to the wall insane price wise, but between 500 - 700. I'll update the original message with the budget. Which parts are out of date? Thanks for the quick reply :) 
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February 26, 2013 2:10:16 PM

CPU and motherboard aren't up to date! I'll try to build something around this budget ;) 
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February 26, 2013 2:20:00 PM

That looks like it would technically work. It would be a pretty decent gaming machine while being a pretty big and noisy HTPC.

If you pick a closed style case with fewer vents and try to limit the power consumption a bit more, you should be able to make it quieter.

Intel Pentium G2020
Lower power consumption with better gaming performance. The integrated graphics aren't as good but are still fine for 1080P content.

2x2GB G.Skill NS 1333Mhz 1.5v C9
This should be all the RAM you will need really. Upgrade to 8GB if you want though.

ASUS P8H77-I
Nice reliable board with 6 SATA ports which is rare for mini ITX.

Gigabyte HD 7850 2GB
Nice efficient card and this is the version that QuietPC stock so I'm assuming it must be one of the quieter ones.

2 x 2TB WD Red
Fewer hard drives means less noise and power consumption. These are designed for NAS boxes as well so they have low power consumption.

SeaSonic SSR-450RM 450W
A nice rock solid and efficient PSU with modular cables. It should be very quiet as well.

Fractal Design Node 304
A good looking closed style case, meaning less noise. Has a fan controller as well meaning you can turn the speed up when gaming and back down again when not gaming. Also has plenty of space for hard drives and graphics cards considering it is a pretty small case.

Not sure what your budget was but this comes up to $821.92. It would be slightly better at gaming while being smaller and quieter with less power consumption. If you have any cash left over, I'd add a SSD and upgrade to 8GB RAM.


EDIT: Looks like I went a touch over budget. Maybe you could take a HDD out and add it later when you can afford it?
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February 26, 2013 2:20:22 PM
February 26, 2013 2:34:56 PM

Thanks Guys!

I'm going to take a little bit to study all these parts and then get back to you with an improved bulid. I'll probably do some mix and matching and see what comes out best :) 
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February 26, 2013 3:07:32 PM

Ahh I just noticed you already have the hard drives. Take those out of the build I suggested and it brings it down under $600. You might as well use all 4 of the drives you have.

EDIT: Just read something about the Node 304 as well, you can't use a modular PSU with a long graphics card in it. The PSU will need to be 140mm long and not modular.

Try this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 26, 2013 4:16:00 PM

Hey guys, here is the new and imroved build. I took a lot of the parts from jmsellars advice but mixed,matched and upgraded some. I picked a different model of cpu but let me know what you think. Would the performance boost be noticeable or? I added a ssd since i've heard so much about the performance boost/low power consumption, but is 120 gb enough or too much? I liked the case quite a bit but are you sure everything will fit now?

I also have a question regarding the dedicated vs integrated graphics card. Can you switch between them so as to use less power when just watching a movie/ running as web server as opposed to playing bioshock infinite? How much power would the high end graphics card take up 0/ some? And how can I control this?

Oh also turns out someone i know has 4 gigs ddr3 ram so I don't have to get that either :) 

Fractal Design Node 304 FD-CA-NODE-304-BL Black Aluminum / Steel Mini-ITX Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$89.99


GIGABYTE GV-R785OC-2GD Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$194.99 - 15 $ rebate + Bioshock Inf. + Tomb Raider


SeaSonic S12II 430B 430W ATX12V V2.3/EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55.99


ASUS P8H77-I LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$109.99


Intel Pentium G850 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623G850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$81.99


SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$94.99

In the end this turned into 627.00 which ain't too bad but let me know what you think :) 
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February 26, 2013 4:51:41 PM

ucfblythe said:
Hey guys, here is the new and imroved build. I took a lot of the parts from jmsellars advice but mixed,matched and upgraded some. I picked a different model of cpu but let me know what you think. Would the performance boost be noticeable or? I added a ssd since i've heard so much about the performance boost/low power consumption, but is 120 gb enough or too much? I liked the case quite a bit but are you sure everything will fit now?

I also have a question regarding the dedicated vs integrated graphics card. Can you switch between them so as to use less power when just watching a movie/ running as web server as opposed to playing bioshock infinite? How much power would the high end graphics card take up 0/ some? And how can I control this?

Oh also turns out someone i know has 4 gigs ddr3 ram so I don't have to get that either :) 

Fractal Design Node 304 FD-CA-NODE-304-BL Black Aluminum / Steel Mini-ITX Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$89.99


GIGABYTE GV-R785OC-2GD Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$194.99 - 15 $ rebate + Bioshock Inf. + Tomb Raider


SeaSonic S12II 430B 430W ATX12V V2.3/EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55.99


ASUS P8H77-I LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$109.99


Intel Pentium G850 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623G850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$81.99


SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$94.99

In the end this turned into 627.00 which ain't too bad but let me know what you think :) 


I don't like the Dual Core CPU. I would go for atleast a 4 Core these days!
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February 26, 2013 6:17:02 PM

Why go for a quad core just for the sake of it? Compared to cheaper quad cores like A8's and FX-4's, that Pentium gives equal (or better) performance in games with less power consumption.

The G2020 gives better performance than the G850 for less cash. It has less power consumption as well.

Yeah everything will fit in that case but if you want to fit a long GPU, you have to use a 140mm depth non-modular PSU and you have to take out a drive cage so you can only fit 4 drives instead of 6. That Seasonic 430W, HD 7850 and 4 drives should fit fine.

EDIT: 120GB is the common size for someone who wants to store their OS and a few games. I have a 128GB drive myself and find it to be plenty of space for my OS and games.
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February 26, 2013 6:21:10 PM

Well thanks guys , that was really alot of help and hopefully I should get a nice adaptable build out of this with a number of awesome uses. I'll do some more research and then begin buying the parts but thanks for all your help guys I'll let you know what my final buys were.
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