Which is more demanding Far Cry 3 or Battlefield 3?
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yoho1866
January 9, 2013 2:47:39 AM
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You may find these useful:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/far-cry-3-performance-ben...
And
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-7990-devil13-79...
The last chart on each of those links is the game maxed at 5760x1080 and AA (so as demanding as it gets).
Looks like Far Cry 3 to me.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/far-cry-3-performance-ben...
And
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-7990-devil13-79...
The last chart on each of those links is the game maxed at 5760x1080 and AA (so as demanding as it gets).
Looks like Far Cry 3 to me.
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sam_p_lay said:
You may find these useful:http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/far-cry-3-performance-ben...
And
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-7990-devil13-79...
The last chart on each of those links is the game maxed at 5760x1080 and AA (so as demanding as it gets).
Looks like Far Cry 3 to me.
Outdated info, FC3 performance has been severely improved with latest drivers from both Nvidia and AMD.
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swagatrath
January 9, 2013 9:16:45 AM
sam_p_lay said:
You may find these useful:http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/far-cry-3-performance-ben...
And
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-7990-devil13-79...
The last chart on each of those links is the game maxed at 5760x1080 and AA (so as demanding as it gets).
Looks like Far Cry 3 to me.
battlefield 3 performance sucks in my hd6850 at 1080p....do you think its about time i upgraded my gpu?
or should i wait for the 8series?
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Far Cry 3 has been one of the more demanding games at the moment. There are just things you can't due to max out the game on mid level cards you need a card with real power to max things out. On the other hand with BF3 you have different series of cards that have come out through the time frame of when BF3 originally came out. So you are really comparing a older game which is weird saying and Far Cry 3 which has been new. If you look at this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/far-cry-3-performan... you'll see unless you are running a higher CPU you will probably run into frame issues which however as you see here http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph... the cpu processing power for bf3 is a bit more lax and easier for most people to chomp down on. Far Cry 3 to me is the clear winner in take the demands and pushing hardware to the limit.
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Sumukh_Bhagat said:
You should surely Wait till 8000 series or GTX700Or then, you can get a Cheaper 7000 or GTX600 series when Next-Gen arrives.
+1 to that. I'm in a similar situation to you, but I'm gonna wait. Not long now :-) And plenty of easy-to-run stuff to play in the meantime that I missed at the time (gonna try Wolfenstein when I finish Dishonoured, and probably Far Cry 2 also).
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He/she hasn't really said they are looking for a new card to deal with a more demanding game. I think its just for sake of argument this thread. I do agree though that the next gen cards will be the cards to really optimize these more recent games that have come out and the METRO game when it comes out soon.
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JJ1217 said:
Demanding doesn't mean better. GTA IV is incredibly demanding because its extremely unoptimized. I don't understand why Far Cry 3 is intensive, most of the textures are utter crap and textures like load within 15 metres of the player.Big +1 to this. OP doesn't necessarily imply that's what they're thinking, but it's well-worth saying anyway. GTA4 was an absolute pig and Rockstar should be ashamed. Max Payne 3 was good stuff though, so hopefully GTA5 will be too.
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siddharthmukul007 said:
i think i should really create a new thread for this now....what say you?Go for it :-) I really think it's worth waiting for GTX700 when we're talking about a matter of months now. Depends how urgently you want to play stuff like Far Cry 3 I guess - I don't mind waiting a couple of months after Crysis 3 launches to play it. Gives time for driver issues to be worked out and patches to be released too, which are good arguments for waiting a couple of months before playing a game anyway.
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sam_p_lay said:
Go for it :-) I really think it's worth waiting for GTX700 when we're talking about a matter of months now. Depends how urgently you want to play stuff like Far Cry 3 I guess - I don't mind waiting a couple of months after Crysis 3 launches to play it. Gives time for driver issues to be worked out and patches to be released too, which are good arguments for waiting a couple of months before playing a game anyway.already created a poll....but with the wrong title unfortunately...(CPU instead of GPU)
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No I do agree that PC gaming has a larger stake in things then people realize. Pirating is probably on the downturn especially with things like Steam around. Its become like steam said
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"In general, we think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. For example, if a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the U.S. release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable. Most DRM solutions diminish the value of the product by either directly restricting a customers use or by creating uncertainty."
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bryjoered
January 15, 2013 2:19:51 PM
The weird thing is that Far Cry 3 isn't even truly that much better Graphically than BF3. BF3 is just excellently optimized, especially for nvidia cards. They have released some patches for Far Cry 3 that claim to increase performance. Nvidia has released drivers that do as well.
So, assuming you have a decent dx 11 card you should be able to run Far Cry 3 on most high at 1080p, but ultra is going to require something in the 600 series.
In regards to pirating, I think that is has been more or less proven that games sell equally as well whether they have invasive DRM or not. People gonna steal things on the internet, music, television, and film industries have been dealing with it even longer than the gaming industry.
I've pirated some games in my day, but all were ones that I would have never paid 60 dollars for in the first place. I can't tell you how much money I've wasted on mediocre games in my life. Whatever it is it is a way bigger margin than the ones that i've pirated, the gaming industry is pretty damn healthy if you ask me.
So, assuming you have a decent dx 11 card you should be able to run Far Cry 3 on most high at 1080p, but ultra is going to require something in the 600 series.
In regards to pirating, I think that is has been more or less proven that games sell equally as well whether they have invasive DRM or not. People gonna steal things on the internet, music, television, and film industries have been dealing with it even longer than the gaming industry.
I've pirated some games in my day, but all were ones that I would have never paid 60 dollars for in the first place. I can't tell you how much money I've wasted on mediocre games in my life. Whatever it is it is a way bigger margin than the ones that i've pirated, the gaming industry is pretty damn healthy if you ask me.
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bryjoered
January 15, 2013 3:12:24 PM
Also worth noting that the company behind Far Cry also makes Crysis. This producer has always been notorious for making games that destroy graphics cards. Running Crysis on Max settings on a modern card (without mods) isn't even that breathtaking anymore. Back in 2007, you needed an insane system to run it.
Another example of the console cycles and how they unfortunately shape PC gaming. Consoles hinder PC's development. We are now at the end of the current console generation and even a modest PC graphics card trumps any console, but when the next gen comes the gap will be close once again and it will take several years for PC's to start dominating again.
Another example of the console cycles and how they unfortunately shape PC gaming. Consoles hinder PC's development. We are now at the end of the current console generation and even a modest PC graphics card trumps any console, but when the next gen comes the gap will be close once again and it will take several years for PC's to start dominating again.
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revro
January 15, 2013 3:29:49 PM
there are not that many good games coming out per year so if i pay 120-160 eur per year on the few new games no problem with it. old games can be bought in firesales on steam for little to no money
anyway we get now what fc3, ac3, crysis3, gta v and just cause 3 next year
i oc my cpu and somehow got 5fps more in fc3 i am now always 41+ so 47-48avg
but still i think FC3 is more CPU+GPU bound while BF3 Multiplayer is mainly CPU bound
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revro
anyway we get now what fc3, ac3, crysis3, gta v and just cause 3 next year
i oc my cpu and somehow got 5fps more in fc3 i am now always 41+ so 47-48avg
but still i think FC3 is more CPU+GPU bound while BF3 Multiplayer is mainly CPU bound
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revro
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bryjoered
January 15, 2013 3:42:22 PM
xFriarx
January 15, 2013 6:30:29 PM
bryjoered
January 15, 2013 6:41:54 PM
Plus bullet-wound decals on character models! Makes me sound like a bloodthirsty barbarian, but it's so rare in games to actually see bullet holes in your enemy after you pepper them with SMG fire. First game I saw that in was Quake 2, 1997. I don't get why it's so rare. Right after Quake 2, the original Half-Life demonstrated floors/walls drenched with blood while the dead scientist was lying there in the middle of all the blood with a spotless clean white lab coat. Which sucked. And it's still standard!
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xFriarx
January 16, 2013 3:41:59 PM
Yea, Soldier of Fortune 2 was one of my favorite games due to the bullet wound/gore (modified quake 3 engine with a dev mod called ghoul 2.0 on it I believe - don't kill me if I'm wrong, it's been a few years since I've played it LOL). Simply amazing lol. I don't think another major game has gone that far since...unfortunately.
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bryjoered said:
The weird thing is that Far Cry 3 isn't even truly that much better Graphically than BF3. BF3 is just excellently optimized, especially for nvidia cards. They have released some patches for Far Cry 3 that claim to increase performance. Nvidia has released drivers that do as well.So, assuming you have a decent dx 11 card you should be able to run Far Cry 3 on most high at 1080p, but ultra is going to require something in the 600 series.
In regards to pirating, I think that is has been more or less proven that games sell equally as well whether they have invasive DRM or not. People gonna steal things on the internet, music, television, and film industries have been dealing with it even longer than the gaming industry.
I've pirated some games in my day, but all were ones that I would have never paid 60 dollars for in the first place. I can't tell you how much money I've wasted on mediocre games in my life. Whatever it is it is a way bigger margin than the ones that i've pirated, the gaming industry is pretty damn healthy if you ask me.
As graphics continue to get closer and closer to reality, improvements are getting smaller and requiring more power. That is just the nature of things.
As far as pirating, the most pirated game I've ever heard of was a low cost, no DRM, highly praised game (World of Goo). At least in terms of percentage. You are right, pirates will pirate, but it would seem an easy target does get hit more.
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bryjoered
January 16, 2013 5:10:47 PM
I like how Ubisoft has this completely annoying and invasive "Uplay" thing for Far Cry 3 that annoys the hell out of me as a paying customer. Steam is a DRM in of itself. It literally has stopped nothing either, both ACIII and FAR CRY 3 are readily available through bitorrent. Companies should just stop even trying, the only way to completely stop pirates is to have a system like Diablo 3 were are the files are on the server and you have to log on to play.
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xFriarx said:
Yea, Soldier of Fortune 2 was one of my favorite games due to the bullet wound/gore (modified quake 3 engine with a dev mod called ghoul 2.0 on it I believe - don't kill me if I'm wrong, it's been a few years since I've played it LOL). Simply amazing lol. I don't think another major game has gone that far since...unfortunately.+1 of glory! SoF2 is one my favourite games of all time. Just an absolutely amazing shooter.
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mycutefairy
January 16, 2013 10:48:24 PM
Warsaw
January 17, 2013 2:18:06 AM
revro
January 17, 2013 11:35:59 AM
bryjoered
January 17, 2013 3:00:51 PM
I can max everything on BF3 and get 50+ fps with 2x AA on 1080p easy with a GTX 560. A 660 wouldn't even break a sweat with everything on Max, you might even be able to implement some control panel options. Far cry 3 is the first game I've played in the year since I bought the 560 2gb that really hits my system hard at ultra. I'm going to lower the AO to SSAO, because I read in a benchmark, that it is almost as good as HDAO with twice the performance. The weird thing about FC3 is that even when my fraps says i'm getting 25 fps it feels very fluid and doesn't seem to chug at all. I'm not very far, but I did that whole opening scene where you running through the woods and getting shot at with everything on Ultra and could barely notice any slow downs.
FC3 defaults to putting my system with everything on very high besides water quality and ambient lighting and I get 30 FPS even with the taxing HDAO enabled. If I put SSAO on with those settings I get 40+ FPS, but I'm going to try to push Ultra with SSAO on and see if it's playable. I've never been a "60 fps or nothing!" guy as far as I'm concerned 40 fps might as well be 60 cuz I can't see the difference.
FC3 defaults to putting my system with everything on very high besides water quality and ambient lighting and I get 30 FPS even with the taxing HDAO enabled. If I put SSAO on with those settings I get 40+ FPS, but I'm going to try to push Ultra with SSAO on and see if it's playable. I've never been a "60 fps or nothing!" guy as far as I'm concerned 40 fps might as well be 60 cuz I can't see the difference.
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Murderotica926
January 17, 2013 7:01:10 PM
FC3 is undeniably more demanding than BF3 despite the fact that it doesn't look as good as BF3. The reason is that it's not optimized for PC. It's still a console port at heart with some extra visual options tacked on to it. My 7970 Ghz at stock clocks can run BF3 on ultra and stay above 60fps the majority of the time. It cannot keep a minimum 60 in FC3 even with the "very high" preset, and with Ultra + AA it drops down to 30-40 fps.
There's no doubt FC3 will torture your GFX card more than BF3 will, partially due to poor coding.
There's no doubt FC3 will torture your GFX card more than BF3 will, partially due to poor coding.
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bryjoered
January 22, 2013 2:17:50 PM
I wouldn't go as far to say it doesn't look as good as BF3. I'd say they are equivalent. BF3 has some of the best looking terrain I have ever seen in my life, and there are sections in Far cry where there is noticeably low textures on the ground. Far Cry 3 has the superior lighting for sure. Walking through the trees you can see the trickle of light altered by the leaves as it moves along the ground. The water effects are better as well. Texture quality they look the same to me, but I have to agree that Far Cry 3 shouldn't be as taxing as it is.
Another note, I turned the AO down to SSAO and without AA Ultra is playable on a GTX 560. I get about 30FPS, but like I said on this game that seems very smooth to me. Surely, it is smooth enough to play the single player campaign. Play this game on your HDTV with a 360 controller and you will cream your pants, it looks amazing on a big TV.
This is the age old problem with PC gaming though, games look a lot better on it, but in order to get the most out of every game you need a card that is 200-250$. When I bought the GTX 560 just one year ago, there were only 3-4 cards better than it, now there is nearly ten. If your really into gaming, I don't see the big deal in upgrading every 2-3 years, but eventually you will have to get a new processor and PSU along with it and at that point why not just buy a whole new PC?
Another note, I turned the AO down to SSAO and without AA Ultra is playable on a GTX 560. I get about 30FPS, but like I said on this game that seems very smooth to me. Surely, it is smooth enough to play the single player campaign. Play this game on your HDTV with a 360 controller and you will cream your pants, it looks amazing on a big TV.
This is the age old problem with PC gaming though, games look a lot better on it, but in order to get the most out of every game you need a card that is 200-250$. When I bought the GTX 560 just one year ago, there were only 3-4 cards better than it, now there is nearly ten. If your really into gaming, I don't see the big deal in upgrading every 2-3 years, but eventually you will have to get a new processor and PSU along with it and at that point why not just buy a whole new PC?
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Dhampire01
June 20, 2013 6:46:21 AM
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