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Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 10, 2004 7:01:57 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

I am totally frustrated with the phone connection to Replay for updates; I
have an available LAN but cabling is a problem ... is there any reason I
could not use a wireless connection with the Linksys (or other) products ?
Any particular recommendations ?

Thanks ...

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Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 10, 2004 7:49:27 PM

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"Liz" <liz@tiredofspam.com> shaped the electrons to say:
>I am totally frustrated with the phone connection to Replay for updates; I
>have an available LAN but cabling is a problem ... is there any reason I
>could not use a wireless connection with the Linksys (or other) products ?

Yes, you can use WiFi with RTV - but you'll need to use an external
bridge. You'd connect the bridge to the wired Ethernet port of the
RTV with cable. A while back they'd said the USB port would support
WiFi adapters (like TiVo), but then they dropped that claim and never
added the support (at least not to date) so you have to use the
external bridge for WiFi.

If you have multiple units and you want to do streaming between them
then WiFi may be a problem - 11b at least doesn't have the throughput
to handle all the streams. 11g should be OK if you have a good
connection. But for just getting the guide data, etc, 11b is fine.

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
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"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
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May 10, 2004 7:49:28 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

In article <megazone.1084204163@sidehack.sat.gweep.net>,
newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org said...
> "Liz" <liz@tiredofspam.com> shaped the electrons to say:
> >I am totally frustrated with the phone connection to Replay for updates; I
> >have an available LAN but cabling is a problem ... is there any reason I
> >could not use a wireless connection with the Linksys (or other) products ?
>
> Yes, you can use WiFi with RTV - but you'll need to use an external
> bridge. You'd connect the bridge to the wired Ethernet port of the
> RTV with cable. A while back they'd said the USB port would support
> WiFi adapters (like TiVo), but then they dropped that claim and never
> added the support (at least not to date) so you have to use the
> external bridge for WiFi.
>
> If you have multiple units and you want to do streaming between them
> then WiFi may be a problem - 11b at least doesn't have the throughput
> to handle all the streams. 11g should be OK if you have a good
> connection. But for just getting the guide data, etc, 11b is fine.

I have 11b on my laptop and pull shows from my wired Replay all of the
time. It doesn't come close to filling the pipe on the wireless net
because of the throttle that Replay has built-in. I've put the laptop on
the wired side of the net before and the transfers go at the same speed.
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Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 10, 2004 11:15:21 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

I've done it with a Netgear ME101 wireless bridge. True Plug 'n Play. No
configuration required.

From:Liz
liz@tiredofspam.com

> I am totally frustrated with the phone connection to Replay for
> updates; I have an available LAN but cabling is a problem ... is
> there any reason I could not use a wireless connection with the
> Linksys (or other) products ? Any particular recommendations ?
>
> Thanks ...
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 11, 2004 12:45:38 AM

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Brad <me@privacy.net> shaped the electrons to say:
>I have 11b on my laptop and pull shows from my wired Replay all of the
>time. It doesn't come close to filling the pipe on the wireless net
>because of the throttle that Replay has built-in. I've put the laptop on

For DVArchive and QVision that's fine - but for unit to unit
*streaming* it needs to provide the data at full speed to keep up with
the playback. If the transfer drops below the bitrate of the
recording it'll stop playback.

For a transfer to a PC it doesn't need to be realtime.

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
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"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
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Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 11, 2004 12:45:49 AM

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"BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote in message
news:D xQnc.11144$EH6.9431@twister.socal.rr.com...
> I've done it with a Netgear ME101 wireless bridge. True Plug 'n Play. No
> configuration required.

approximate cost ? (I need the wireless hardware on both ends)


> From:Liz
> liz@tiredofspam.com
>
> > I am totally frustrated with the phone connection to Replay for
> > updates; I have an available LAN but cabling is a problem ... is
> > there any reason I could not use a wireless connection with the
> > Linksys (or other) products ? Any particular recommendations ?
> >
> > Thanks ...
>
>
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 11, 2004 12:46:18 AM

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"Brad" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b098edb57f197498bcae@news...

> I have 11b on my laptop and pull shows from my wired Replay all of the
> time. It doesn't come close to filling the pipe on the wireless net
> because of the throttle that Replay has built-in. I've put the laptop on
> the wired side of the net before and the transfers go at the same speed.

never even considered that; how does that work ? what software do you need
to talk to the RTV ?
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 11, 2004 2:51:31 AM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

Since you apparently need the wireless router too, go with 11g
technology. The prices have come down significantly. I personally prefer
Netgear products (seem to have the best range) and would recommend the
WGR614 (~$60) wireless router and WGE101 (~$94) wireless bridge. The
WGR614 plugs into your cable/dsl modem and the WGE101 plugs into the
ReplayTV.


"Liz" <liz@tiredofspam.com> wrote in message
news:1SRnc.15178117$Of.2532852@news.easynews.com...
>
> "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote in message
> news:D xQnc.11144$EH6.9431@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > I've done it with a Netgear ME101 wireless bridge. True Plug 'n
Play. No
> > configuration required.
>
> approximate cost ? (I need the wireless hardware on both ends)
>
>
> > From:Liz
> > liz@tiredofspam.com
> >
> > > I am totally frustrated with the phone connection to Replay for
> > > updates; I have an available LAN but cabling is a problem ... is
> > > there any reason I could not use a wireless connection with the
> > > Linksys (or other) products ? Any particular recommendations ?
> > >
> > > Thanks ...
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 11, 2004 2:51:32 AM

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On Mon, 10 May 2004 22:51:31 GMT, "BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com>
wrote:

>Since you apparently need the wireless router too, go with 11g
>technology. The prices have come down significantly. I personally prefer
>Netgear products (seem to have the best range) and would recommend the
>WGR614 (~$60) wireless router and WGE101 (~$94) wireless bridge. The
>WGR614 plugs into your cable/dsl modem and the WGE101 plugs into the
>ReplayTV.
>

I have had poor performance with wireless, with different brands
(licluding Linksys). However they were all 11b. Maybe the 11g would be
better? I would get Linksys if possible. I already have a Linksys (not
wireless) router and really like it.

>
>"Liz" <liz@tiredofspam.com> wrote in message
>news:1SRnc.15178117$Of.2532852@news.easynews.com...
>>
>> "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote in message
>> news:D xQnc.11144$EH6.9431@twister.socal.rr.com...
>> > I've done it with a Netgear ME101 wireless bridge. True Plug 'n
>Play. No
>> > configuration required.
>>
>> approximate cost ? (I need the wireless hardware on both ends)
>>
>>
>> > From:Liz
>> > liz@tiredofspam.com
>> >
>> > > I am totally frustrated with the phone connection to Replay for
>> > > updates; I have an available LAN but cabling is a problem ... is
>> > > there any reason I could not use a wireless connection with the
>> > > Linksys (or other) products ? Any particular recommendations ?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks ...
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

--
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http://go.to/notstupid
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 11, 2004 3:55:53 AM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

In article <THTnc.12734$EH6.12482@twister.socal.rr.com>, BruceR wrote:
> Since you apparently need the wireless router too, go with 11g
> technology. The prices have come down significantly. I personally
> prefer Netgear products (seem to have the best range) and would
> recommend the WGR614 (~$60) wireless router and WGE101 (~$94) wireless
> bridge. The WGR614 plugs into your cable/dsl modem and the WGE101
> plugs into the ReplayTV.

I, personally, would recommend against Netgear. I have the two
described components that I bought based upon a PCWorld review and have
had a hell of a time with it. I can stream from the machine connected
to the bridge to the machine connected to the router, but not the other
way around.

Futhermore, any attempt to use DVArchive to download shows that goes
through the router will error out after about 5 minutes worth of show.
Even if the connections are all wired, if it goes through the router,
there are problems.

I have the latest updates from the Netgear site installed, but this
hasn't helped. The router and bridge are about 30 feet apart with no
metal in between other than a railing on the stairs.

Placing the router and bridge so they are just a foot from each other
doesn't seem to help either.

A lot of people on AVS forum have been using Buffalo wireless to do
this work. If I knew then what I know now, this is what I would have
gone with.

But who knows, maybe I just live in a bad area for wireless
networking...

--
David G. Risner
Software Engineer, California State University, Los Angeles
http://www.risner.org/david/
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 11, 2004 3:55:54 AM

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On Mon, 10 May 2004 23:55:53 GMT, David Risner
<java102dave-nntp@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <THTnc.12734$EH6.12482@twister.socal.rr.com>, BruceR wrote:
>> Since you apparently need the wireless router too, go with 11g
>> technology. The prices have come down significantly. I personally
>> prefer Netgear products (seem to have the best range) and would
>> recommend the WGR614 (~$60) wireless router and WGE101 (~$94) wireless
>> bridge. The WGR614 plugs into your cable/dsl modem and the WGE101
>> plugs into the ReplayTV.
>
>I, personally, would recommend against Netgear. I have the two
>described components that I bought based upon a PCWorld review and have
>had a hell of a time with it. I can stream from the machine connected
>to the bridge to the machine connected to the router, but not the other
>way around.
>
>Futhermore, any attempt to use DVArchive to download shows that goes
>through the router will error out after about 5 minutes worth of show.
>Even if the connections are all wired, if it goes through the router,
>there are problems.
>

Have you got any idea what's wrong? Have you tried a different router
(to be sure it's the router that's causing the problem)? I tried a
Netgear router first and never got it to work, before going to the
Linksys (which works fine).

>I have the latest updates from the Netgear site installed, but this
>hasn't helped. The router and bridge are about 30 feet apart with no
>metal in between other than a railing on the stairs.
>
>Placing the router and bridge so they are just a foot from each other
>doesn't seem to help either.
>

30 feet should work as well as a shorter distance.

>A lot of people on AVS forum have been using Buffalo wireless to do
>this work. If I knew then what I know now, this is what I would have
>gone with.
>
>But who knows, maybe I just live in a bad area for wireless
>networking...

Maybe I do to. It's also bad for "wireless" phone jacks (not RF but
powerline). Good thing my router (with cable internet, no phoneline)
was already next to the A/V cabinet, and DirecTV doesn't really
require a phoneline.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://go.to/notstupid
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 11, 2004 4:23:41 AM

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"Liz" <liz@tiredofspam.com> shaped the electrons to say:
>never even considered that; how does that work ? what software do you need
>to talk to the RTV ?

It exploits a loophole in the RTV's streaming system - namely that the
security on it is a total joke. :-)

There are two popular packages that allow a PC to spoof being an RTV -
DVArchive and QVision.

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
<URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org> Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
<URL:http://www.megazone.org/&gt; <URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/&gt; Eris
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 11, 2004 6:33:53 AM

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Since you still have the problem with both units when connected by wire
it would appear that the problem is not due to the wireless component
and the distance and construction of your home would not be a factor.
Instead, you might need to look at the router configuration and ensure
that you have set up port forwarding correctly to the two different
ports you assigned to the replay units. Have you tried a different
router? I have 5 ReplayTVs attached to a Netgear Router and all work
perfectly and work with DVArchive.
I too, have heard that Buffalo makes a good product but have no
personal experience with it.

From:D avid Risner
java102dave-nntp@yahoo.com

> In article <THTnc.12734$EH6.12482@twister.socal.rr.com>, BruceR wrote:
>> Since you apparently need the wireless router too, go with 11g
>> technology. The prices have come down significantly. I personally
>> prefer Netgear products (seem to have the best range) and would
>> recommend the WGR614 (~$60) wireless router and WGE101 (~$94)
>> wireless bridge. The WGR614 plugs into your cable/dsl modem and the
>> WGE101 plugs into the ReplayTV.
>
> I, personally, would recommend against Netgear. I have the two
> described components that I bought based upon a PCWorld review and
> have had a hell of a time with it. I can stream from the machine
> connected to the bridge to the machine connected to the router, but
> not the other way around.
>
> Futhermore, any attempt to use DVArchive to download shows that goes
> through the router will error out after about 5 minutes worth of show.
> Even if the connections are all wired, if it goes through the router,
> there are problems.
>
> I have the latest updates from the Netgear site installed, but this
> hasn't helped. The router and bridge are about 30 feet apart with no
> metal in between other than a railing on the stairs.
>
> Placing the router and bridge so they are just a foot from each other
> doesn't seem to help either.
>
> A lot of people on AVS forum have been using Buffalo wireless to do
> this work. If I knew then what I know now, this is what I would have
> gone with.
>
> But who knows, maybe I just live in a bad area for wireless
> networking...
>
> --
> David G. Risner
> Software Engineer, California State University, Los Angeles
> http://www.risner.org/david/
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 11, 2004 6:35:23 AM

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www.dvarchive.org Well supported freeware!

From:Liz
liz@tiredofspam.com

> "Brad" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b098edb57f197498bcae@news...
>
>> I have 11b on my laptop and pull shows from my wired Replay all of
>> the time. It doesn't come close to filling the pipe on the wireless
>> net because of the throttle that Replay has built-in. I've put the
>> laptop on the wired side of the net before and the transfers go at
>> the same speed.
>
> never even considered that; how does that work ? what software do
> you need to talk to the RTV ?
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
May 11, 2004 4:26:50 PM

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On Tue, 11 May 2004 02:33:53 GMT, "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com>
wrote:

>Since you still have the problem with both units when connected by wire
>it would appear that the problem is not due to the wireless component
>and the distance and construction of your home would not be a factor.
>Instead, you might need to look at the router configuration and ensure
>that you have set up port forwarding correctly to the two different
>ports you assigned to the replay units.

Port forwarding will have no effect on internal (LAN) connections,
only those from the internet (or sent to your WAN address).

>Have you tried a different
>router? I have 5 ReplayTVs attached to a Netgear Router and all work
>perfectly and work with DVArchive.
> I too, have heard that Buffalo makes a good product but have no
>personal experience with it.
>
>From:D avid Risner
>java102dave-nntp@yahoo.com
>
>> In article <THTnc.12734$EH6.12482@twister.socal.rr.com>, BruceR wrote:
>>> Since you apparently need the wireless router too, go with 11g
>>> technology. The prices have come down significantly. I personally
>>> prefer Netgear products (seem to have the best range) and would
>>> recommend the WGR614 (~$60) wireless router and WGE101 (~$94)
>>> wireless bridge. The WGR614 plugs into your cable/dsl modem and the
>>> WGE101 plugs into the ReplayTV.
>>
>> I, personally, would recommend against Netgear. I have the two
>> described components that I bought based upon a PCWorld review and
>> have had a hell of a time with it. I can stream from the machine
>> connected to the bridge to the machine connected to the router, but
>> not the other way around.
>>
>> Futhermore, any attempt to use DVArchive to download shows that goes
>> through the router will error out after about 5 minutes worth of show.
>> Even if the connections are all wired, if it goes through the router,
>> there are problems.
>>
>> I have the latest updates from the Netgear site installed, but this
>> hasn't helped. The router and bridge are about 30 feet apart with no
>> metal in between other than a railing on the stairs.
>>
>> Placing the router and bridge so they are just a foot from each other
>> doesn't seem to help either.
>>
>> A lot of people on AVS forum have been using Buffalo wireless to do
>> this work. If I knew then what I know now, this is what I would have
>> gone with.
>>
>> But who knows, maybe I just live in a bad area for wireless
>> networking...
>>
>> --
>> David G. Risner
>> Software Engineer, California State University, Los Angeles
>> http://www.risner.org/david/
>

--
Mark Lloyd
http://go.to/notstupid
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
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