Will it fit in the case?

[BuddiLuva]

Hi guys,

At my workplace I have managed to get a small bit of funds to upgrade my work PC (as I am in IT)

However, my case will have to remain the same , it is a hp compaq dc5750.

What I was wondering was:

Will an ATX + AMD CPU e.g. x4 630 with its heatsink actually fit in the case?

Also what would be a nice cheap solution as I have a small budget for it.

I was thinking something along the lines of a £30 motherboard and maybe a x3 or x4 athlon for up to £40?

I already have an M4 SSD and 2GB RAM so I won't be changing those

 

[Maxx_Power]

It doesn't look like it. Both the SFF and Microtower (you didn't say which model you have) uses some sort of BTX or proprietary format that also reversed (with mobo mounted on opposite side of the case, opposite to ATX formats).

The board size is close to a MATX for the microtower, but mounting holes AND IO shield doesn't match up.

This is a fairly good case for the money, currently on for 39.99 USD at Newegg:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129187

Something cheaper, but essentially the same thing:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811192289

 

[BuddiLuva]

I have the SFF case. The budget they have given me just about covers a CPU and motherboard :\. I won't be able to get a case.

I will have to ravage the IT lab for an old PC case somewhere and use that

 

[BuddiLuva]

Just a quick update: I have got a HP Compaq DX2550 case too. That should fit an MATX motherboard and CPU perfectly.

So could somebody help me pick out a CPU and motherboard please? Is there any AMD CPUs that have built in graphics apart from the APUs?

Otherwise I will require a seperate GPU

 

[Maxx_Power]

Just a quick update: I have got a HP Compaq DX2550 case too. That should fit an MATX motherboard and CPU perfectly.

So could somebody help me pick out a CPU and motherboard please? Is there any AMD CPUs that have built in graphics apart from the APUs?

Otherwise I will require a seperate GPU

Definitely a Piledriver based APU (the new 5800k, for example), and an ASUS or Gigabyte MATX is what I would recommend. There are no other AMD chips at the moment that features integrated graphics unless you find some older 785/880 chipset boards, but the onboard is much slower for those.

 

[McLubbin]

Budget?

 

[BuddiLuva]

My budget is £80 for a motherboard and a CPU.

Pretty tight I know, but that's all they've given me

 

[BuddiLuva]

Hi guys,

How is this?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-960GM-GS3-FX-Motherboard-Instant/dp/B006HHD8AY/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1362131593&sr=1-6

http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-ADX640WFGMBOX-Athlon-II-640/dp/B003M7BLOW/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1362131707&sr=1-1

Mobo has onboard graphics too, won't be doing gaming on it, as long as it does 1080?

If you would like to advise another mobo please

How is this motherboard instead? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0061YE97Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

 

[Maxx_Power]

Hi guys,

How is this?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-960GM-GS3-FX-Motherboard-Instant/dp/B006HHD8AY/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1362131593&sr=1-6

http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-ADX640WFGMBOX-Athlon-II-640/dp/B003M7BLOW/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1362131707&sr=1-1

Mobo has onboard graphics too, won't be doing gaming on it, as long as it does 1080?

If you would like to advise another mobo please

How is this motherboard instead? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0061YE97Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

At your budget, you really don't have much of a choice. Of the 2 motherboards you linked to, the ASRock one supposedly supports higher wattage CPUs...

ALternatively, you can try this set for your budget (Athlon 651K Quad Core + Asus F1A55-M):

http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Athlon-...dp_proddesc_0?ie=UTF8&n=340831031&s=computers

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-F1A55-...1_8?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1362147547&sr=1-8

This combo will have slightly better CPU performance at the same clock and way better GPU performance (I'm not sure the HD3000 is capable of much on the AM3+ board).

That exact CPU is a bit cheaper at Scan.co.uk:

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-...n-s-fm1-quad-core-30ghz-1mb-cache-100w-retail

Compared to the Athlon 640, the two uses similar cores (K10 series), same clock speed, but the Athlon 651K has 4MB L2 cache and supports up to 1866mhz DDR3 RAM natively whereas the Athlon 640 has 2MB L2 cache and supports up to 1333mhz DDR3 RAM natively.

YOU WILL NEED A DISCRETE GPU TO GO WITH THE ATHLON 651K (reuse an old one?)

 

[BuddiLuva]

Thanks for your help Maxx_Power.

In the end I have ended up going with the X4 Athlon CPU and the ASUS M4A78L-M LX V2. It has the onboard HD 3000 too, which will be more than sufficient for a 1080p resolution screen, as it is a work environment gaming will not happen.

I am assuming that this'll run well enough on a 300w PSU?

 

[Maxx_Power]

Thanks for your help Maxx_Power.

In the end I have ended up going with the X4 Athlon CPU and the ASUS M4A78L-M LX V2. It has the onboard HD 3000 too, which will be more than sufficient for a 1080p resolution screen, as it is a work environment gaming will not happen.

I am assuming that this'll run well enough on a 300w PSU?

No problem. Your new setup will run just fine on a 300w PSU. Double check that your existing PSU has a 4/8 pin (likely just 4 pin) P4-styled molex connector (that looks like a square) to plug into the motherboard directly. Although your power supply MAY NOT have a 24 pin plug for the motherboard, most 24 pin motherboards will work just fine with a 20 pin plug, especially when you don't use the PCI-E slot.

 

[BuddiLuva]

I checked the PSU and it has 24 pins, not 20+4 but 24 together, shouldn't matter since the mobo is 24 pin too.

 

[BuddiLuva]

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