Looking to downgrade a current build.

[ummbeast]

Im working on building a computer for the first time and have been working on a build for weeks. The problem is that it is too costly: 1006$. My max is 800$
Approximate purchase date: Within the next week or two (sooner is better)
Budget range: 800$ max. trying to downgrade this build from 1000 to 800
System usage: Gaming
Am I buying a monitor: No
Parts to upgrade: whatever I can to get in my price range
Do I need to buy an OS: Yes, Windows 7
Preferred website: Newegg
Location: USA Michigan
Parts preferences: Prefer intel processor and motherboard but for the gpu and everything else: whatever fits the budget for gaming
Overclocking: Probably not, possibly later though
SLI or crossfire: No
Monitor resolution: 1600 by 900
Additional comments: none
Why I'm upgrading: I'm tired of 20 fps and I'm willing to finally get a better pc.
Here's the current build, the one that is 1000. I would like some advice as how to downgrade it to 800 without risking too much performance.
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148840
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Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819116504
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GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD4H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128583
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ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827135204
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Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371016
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Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129066
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G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GXM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231568
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ASUS GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121656
Any and all advice is very welcome

 

[C12Friedman]

Couple of things I see to yield some savings, drop ram to 8GB -16 isn't currently need for most applications. Change graphics to HD7850...
All I can see offhand

 

[amundskm]

You could replace your CPU with a Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115234, I don't know if you are planning on overclocking or not, but if not, you don't need that capability you get with the Intel Core i5-3570K.

Also, you might want to look at EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ntel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor.

 

[djangoringo]

All from newegg :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($180.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Green 530W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $828.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


You can reduce the costs with going to other places like amazon and ncix us.
Like the ram : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1321
HDD : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1324 or http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&promoid=1324 (more expensive but 1TB)
CPU : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75435&promoid=1387
The psu(if you mind the rebate) : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1257
The os in amazon : http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Builder/dp/B004Q0PT3I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362080389&sr=8-1&keywords=windows+7+home+premium+64+bit or
Windows 8 in ncix us : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77180&promoid=1324
The motherboard is 77$ in amazon without shipping cost(if you have any with newegg).
Edit it seems the card and case is out of stock in newegg, but it will be back soon.

 

[ummbeast]

Thanks for the advice!

 

[Isaiah4110]

You could save a little more money (and get a slightly faster GPU) from that build recommendation by going to an XFX 7870 GHz edition card. It comes with a lifetime warranty and has a combo deal with the RAM.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($180.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Green 530W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $823.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-28 15:16 EST-0500)

 

[Wisecracker]

This is against your wishes ...

Asus M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ with Win7 64-bit: $190

Choose between the FX-6300 Vishera ($130) or the PhII 965BE at $100 (goes as low as $85 every week or so).

I simply point this out because it positions you for a Radeon HD 7950 at $310 before $20 rebate, even with some G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1866 at $58 (use code EMCXVVM22 for 10%-off) and an XFX Core Edition PRO550W at $70 before $10 rebate.

Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel Case: $32

Western Digital WD Blue 500GB: $60

With the FX6300 .......... $861 before $30 in rebates
With the PhII 965BE ..... $831 before $30 in rebates (missed it by $1 )


Otherwise, you need to seriously consider an i3, and snag the best video card you can. The HD 7950 listed above comes with Crysis3 and Bioshock3 bundle.

 

[ARICH5]

are you gonna overclock?

 

[djangoringo]

You could save a little more money (and get a slightly faster GPU) from that build recommendation by going to an XFX 7870 GHz edition card. It comes with a lifetime warranty and has a combo deal with the RAM.

The 7870 ghz edition isn't faster than the 7870 tahiti le, the 7870 tahiti le delivers more performance, the 7870XT powercolor is a tahiti le card(a "7930") with more shaders and the tahiti gpu.
More information here : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/tahiti-le-7870-7930-benchmark,3401.html
In fact the xfx 7870 standard card is more expensive if you don't count the rebate, 270$ for a 7870 ghz edition isn't a good value in my opinion, you can find a 660 ti around that price.

 

[ARICH5]

if your not gonna overclock, and depending on what resolution you play at heres my 650$ build.




PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GCOk
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GCOk/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GCOk/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-2320 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($182.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 2GB Video Card ($123.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $607.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-28 15:58 EST-0500)

 

[Onus]

With a monitor resolution of only 1600x900, a 1GB HD7850 should be sufficient; in fact you might be satisfied with a GTX650Ti. If you're planning to upgrade your monitor though, a HD7870 might be better. I'm not sure the more expensive Myst edition will be worthwhile. Check benchmarks for the [types of] games you play; if a HD7850 will give you the FPS you want, there's no need to pay for more.

 

[Mousemonkey]

This next topics has been merged by Mousemonkey
■ 800$ build

 

[ummbeast]

@Djangoringo. Should I be getting a cpu cooler other than the stock one? I don.t really plan on overclocking. And how soon do you think that case and gpu will be in stock?

 

[Onus]

If you are not going to overclock, the stock cooler should be sufficient.
The GTX650 may be a little weak, even for 1600x900. The GTX650Ti though is not that much more expensive, and should do well for that resolution.

 

[djangoringo]

@Djangoringo. Should I be getting a cpu cooler other than the stock one? I don.t really plan on overclocking. And how soon do you think that case and gpu will be in stock?

You don't need an aftermarket cooler, the stock one is fine, idk when the case and gpu will be on stock, there's the notify feature in newegg to see when it's back, there're other cases there, like the nzxt 210 source or elite, Rosewill CHALLENGE, as for the card, it all depends on the games that you're playing if you want ~60 fps maxed out in the most demanding games(crysis 3, far cry 3, BF3), the 7870 xt is a good option, but idk when it's going to be back, but i guess soon, you can always get the 7850 for less, i would try to get either the 7850 or the 7870 tahiti le, since the 7870 tahiti le is at the same price as the other 7870 without the rebates.

 

[Wisecracker]

1) In a gaming build, it's your video card;

2) You should always verify that the memory spec'ed for you is on your OEM motherboard QVL list;

3) I suspect you won't be gaming at 1600x900 for all of the next 2-3 years, and should purchase the best video card you can in your budget in anticipation of this; and

4) Understanding (1) and (3), and if you are determined to go with an Intel rig, you should seriously consider dropping down to an i3 in order to purchase the HD7950, if anything, simply for the game bundle.

 

[ummbeast]

I really want to get my computer as soon as possible but im hesitant to get the 7850 and that 7870 xt looks amazing for the price so ill just wait for that to be in stock again.

 

[ummbeast]

I switched the case to a Rosewill Challenger. When i switched the video card to a 7850 the total was 770 so im good on the price but I think its official that i'll just wait for the boss 7870 XT

 

[djangoringo]

It's a solid case, used by toms hardware in some builds if i'm not mistaken, well it's up to you to see if the 7870XT is worth the extra or not.

 

[ummbeast]

Will I ned to buy extra cables or anything or is this all I need to build my computer?

 

[djangoringo]

The motherboard will bring two sata cables, the psu will have the cables needed, so you don't need additional stuff.

 

[ummbeast]

Thanks for all the advice django and everybody else with luck ill be playing Natural Selection 2 and Planetside 2 at an fps that is actually playable.
EDIT: Just found out that Newegg has in stock the saphire brand 7870 XT,is it the same as the powercolor or is the powercolor different?

 

[Isaiah4110]

The 7870 ghz edition isn't faster than the 7870 tahiti le, the 7870 tahiti le delivers more performance, the 7870XT powercolor is a tahiti le card(a "7930") with more shaders and the tahiti gpu.
More information here : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/tahiti-le-7870-7930-benchmark,3401.html
In fact the xfx 7870 standard card is more expensive if you don't count the rebate, 270$ for a 7870 ghz edition isn't a good value in my opinion, you can find a 660 ti around that price.

Yeah, I have no idea how I mised that the card you had listed was the stripped version of a 7950... Sorry about that.

 

[Wisecracker]

Excellent call on the Radeon HD7870 XT.