9600 GT Upgrade to GTX 650

[bigwilly808]

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This Week or sometime this month.

BUDGET RANGE: USD $90-120 MAX (Ill go $140 MAX but don't really want to.) including shipping. Before / After Rebates....so poor

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, BF3, CS:S, TF2, Heroes Of Newerth, League of Legends. I would like to run them in High graphics and all that Anti Aliasing crap xD. 1080P Movies!

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: GPU : Zotac 9600 GT OC (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500019)
PSU : Rocketfish 550W Power Supply (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RocketFish-550W-Power-Supply-w-Active-PFC-Model-RF-550WPS2-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqZ,!l!FBKrIqJg5BQbMFKQ-P!~~60_57.JPG) Only info I could find

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 650 Processor 3.2Ghz
Case: Cooler Master Elite 310 (http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6528)
Motherboard: ASRock 890GM PRO3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157192)
RAM : Team Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model TED38192M1333HC9DC
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313086)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Amazon.com or anything that has free shipping to Hawaii or cheap shipping to 96189..lol

PARTS PREFERENCES: I like Nvidia cards, but if ATI/AMD is better and cheaper, then I'll go with it.

OVERCLOCKING: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920X1080 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058UUR6E/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00)

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: None, Ill just reply to answers and add additional info if needed.

 

[ASHISH65]

For that resolution you need hd 7850 atleast.

 

[bigwilly808]

Oh Damn. What if I lower Resolution in games then. To like Idk, 1600X900-1680X1050?

And I was looking at this EVGA GTX 650 originally because never had a ATI card before.

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-1024MB-Graphics-01G-P4-2650-KR/dp/B00966IU4M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357907350&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+650

 

[ASHISH65]

Gtx 650 can only handle upto 1400*900.if you are in tight budget then simply get hd 7770 at 125 dollars.

 

[Derza10]

^ I wouldn't go anything lower than a 7770 from AMD or the GTX 650 Ti from nvidia.

 

[bigwilly808]

Alright then I'll get this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-PCI-Express-Graphics-11201-17-20G/dp/B00A0HZOEA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1357918531&sr=1-1&keywords=7770

 

[ASHISH65]

Thats still decent but you have to lower your resolution.it is capable of gaming at 1400*900 and also some at games 1600*900.i would reccomend to save up more and get hd 7850.

 

[Derza10]

Yea if you want to play all your games on high settings with AA turned on you are going to want to get atleast a gtx 660 or 7870... If you are willing to play at low-medium @1080p (can still play Ultra settings with a lower end card in games like league of legends and heros of newerth and so on... But BF3 is going to require one of the cards i mentioned as well as a CPU Upgrade for multiplayer) you can get a card in your budget.

 

[bigwilly808]

I guess Ill just wait..I'm going to get http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SUPERCLOCKED-Graphics-02G-P4-2662-KR/dp/B00966IREK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1357933833&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+660

Do you guys think it'll bottleneck?

 

[CaptainTom]

I guess Ill just wait..I'm going to get http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SUPERCLOCKED-Graphics-02G-P4-2662-KR/dp/B00966IREK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1357933833&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+660

Do you guys think it'll bottleneck?

I wouldn't pay more than $210 for a 660 when 7850's are sub $190 and 7870's are $230.

 

[Derza10]

It will be bottlenecked by your CPU in CPU intense games, like multi-player BF3, but out of the games you listed i think that will be the only one. I think your best upgrade right now would be the gtx 660... Your next upgrade needs to be best AM3 CPU, or new CPU and mobo.

Here is a cheaper 660, if price is your main concern. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500270

 

[swifty_morgan]

if you want an nvidia card the 650 would be the one to go with. spending more on a higher end card would be a waste of money. the rest of your system couldn't push it to it's potential. also take not that you may have to turn down or turn off physx in some of those games. just my opinion.

 

[CaptainTom]

if you want an nvidia card the 650 would be the one to go with. spending more on a higher end card would be a waste of money. the rest of your system couldn't push it to it's potential. also take not that you may have to turn down or turn off physx in some of those games. just my opinion.

The 650 is the last card ANY person should ever get. The 7750 is stronger, cheaper, and uses less power. Plus he could go up to a 7850 and be fine.

 

[Derza10]

650 ti is the lowest nvida card you should get... But the GTX 660 is the way to go imo if you can budget it.

 

[CaptainTom]

650 ti is the lowest nvida card you should get... But the GTX 660 is the way to go imo if you can budget it.

Only get the 660 if you are going to buy ACIII anyways. Otherwise it would be silly to pay $215 for a 660 when a 7850 is $200 and the same strength. Plus a 7870 is quite stronger and costs only $15 more.

 

[swifty_morgan]

The 650 is the last card ANY person should ever get. The 7750 is stronger, cheaper, and uses less power. Plus he could go up to a 7850 and be fine.

should see all the cards listed here. but remember what hardware he has and what the site uses.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_650_ti_power_edition_review,1.html

 

[CaptainTom]

should see all the cards listed here. but remember what hardware he has and what the site uses.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_650_ti_power_edition_review,1.html

What am I supposed to be seeing? I did notice in the BF3 benchmark the 7770 was only 1 frame behind the 650 Ti in 1080p while not even using 12.11 drivers. That made me laugh a little...

 

[Derza10]

What am I supposed to be seeing? I did notice in the BF3 benchmark the 7770 was only 1 frame behind the 650 Ti in 1080p while not even using 12.11 drivers. That made me laugh a little...

well that is actually 1920x1200... so it might be closer to 2 fps difference... I still stick to my opinion that saving up for the 660 is the way to go... That way when you do upgrade your CPU, the GPU will not need to be upgraded again also.

 

[Derza10]

Only get the 660 if you are going to buy ACIII anyways. Otherwise it would be silly to pay $215 for a 660 when a 7850 is $200 and the same strength. Plus a 7870 is quite stronger and costs only $15 more.

Umm nothing you said is true... the 660 is a good amount better than the 7850 and within 1-4% of the 7870 in all resolutions.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/23.html

And nvidia has had some nice driver updates for performance from when that was done.

 

[CaptainTom]

Umm nothing you said is true... the 660 is a good amount better than the 7850 and within 1-4% of the 7870 in all resolutions.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/23.html

And nvidia has had some nice driver updates for performance from when that was done.

I just rechecked some benchmarks on Tomshardware to make sure. The 7850 is within 5-8% of the 660 ALWAYS. When they are both overclocked the 7850 wins. It is cheaper so I fail to see how that was wrong.

The 7870 seems generally stronger, but not as strong as I made it sound. I should have said when they are BOTH overclocked the 7870 is ~10-15% stronger, and as more memory is used in games and resolutions increase, the 7870's lead will widen. That is a fact.


Get the 660 if you want ACIII badly. If not, the 7850 is the clear winner price/performance wise...

 

[bigwilly808]

Gonna save up for a 660. Don't wanna OC. Thanks alot guys!

 

[bigwilly808]

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