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GTX 670 or some AMD side?

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January 11, 2013 5:39:53 PM

So I am getting a GTX 670 MSI Power Edition but is there a AMD side there is better in performance but doesn't cost more than a GTX 670?

Plan to play games at 1920x1080 if I can turned everything to max?

Also AMD have a good thing where you get 4 games with it at the moment.

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January 11, 2013 5:59:16 PM

BigMack70 said:
The only thing meaningfully cheaper from AMD that would beat it would be a manually overclocked 7950.

The 7970 is about the same, maybe a tiny bit better than, the 670 - just depends on the game. If you can pick up a 7970 cheaper than a 670, it's worth it. But last I checked 7970s were (rightfully) a bit more expensive than 670s.


These are the prices for 7970 and 670

http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/gpu-am...

http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/gpu-nv...
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January 11, 2013 6:05:44 PM

Also, a single 670 with a decent overclock should be able to max out basically anything on a 60Hz, 1080p monitor. Mine can max out most games on a 120Hz, 1080p monitor with ease - the only ones it can't do that with are the ones that have settings like supersampling that can be turned off without noticing ANY decrease in looks at 1080p.
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January 11, 2013 6:05:47 PM

Do NOT get a card with a reference cooler. They are loud.

*I recommend the Gigabyte HD7970 OC model with the 3x fan setup.
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January 11, 2013 7:26:08 PM

photonboy said:
Do NOT get a card with a reference cooler. They are loud.

*I recommend the Gigabyte HD7970 OC model with the 3x fan setup.


I was going to recommend a sapphire card but wow, they're way overpriced there. yeah, I'll definitely second the recommendation on the Gigabyte card
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January 11, 2013 7:48:16 PM

BigMack70 said:
The only thing meaningfully cheaper from AMD that would beat it would be a manually overclocked 7950.

The 7970 is about the same, maybe a tiny bit better than, the 670 - just depends on the game. If you can pick up a 7970 cheaper than a 670, it's worth it. But last I checked 7970s were (rightfully) a bit more expensive than 670s.


My 7970 consistently benches 30-40% higher than 670's. I would call that quite a lead...

Seriously use the gpu hierarchy chart. It is very accurate right now. The 7970 IS 10-20% stronger at stock and the 7950 is about 5-10% weaker at stock.

When the 7950 is overclocked it matches or slightly beats the overclocked 670, and when the 7970 GHz is overclocked it loses the 670 in its review mirror as it zips past the overclocked 680 too!
January 11, 2013 8:24:07 PM

CaptainTom said:
My 7970 consistently benches 30-40% higher than 670's. I would call that quite a lead...

Seriously use the gpu hierarchy chart. It is very accurate right now. The 7970 IS 10-20% stronger at stock and the 7950 is about 5-10% weaker at stock.

When the 7950 is overclocked it matches or slightly beats the overclocked 670, and when the 7970 is overclocked it loses the 670 in its review mirror as it zips past the overclocked 680 too!


Problem with AMD everybody says amd have driver problems
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January 11, 2013 8:34:06 PM

shaunw50 said:
Problem with AMD everybody says amd have driver problems


they've gotten a lot better with the recent updates. I installed a 7870 for a friend recently, and it was simply plug in, install the latest version of drivers, and go
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January 11, 2013 8:40:07 PM

@ 1080p you will not notice any differences between the 7950, 7970 or the GTX 670. Go for the cheapest one and stay away from reference cooling, unless your planning SLI or Crossfire.
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January 11, 2013 9:10:24 PM

CaptainTom said:
My 7970 consistently benches 30-40% higher than 670's. I would call that quite a lead...

Seriously use the gpu hierarchy chart. It is very accurate right now. The 7970 IS 10-20% stronger at stock and the 7950 is about 5-10% weaker at stock.

When the 7950 is overclocked it matches or slightly beats the overclocked 670, and when the 7970 is overclocked it loses the 670 in its review mirror as it zips past the overclocked 680 too!
:heink:  Yeah in fanasty land maybe.....
January 11, 2013 9:58:03 PM

vmem said:
I was going to recommend a sapphire card but wow, they're way overpriced there. yeah, I'll definitely second the recommendation on the Gigabyte card


Thirded. I own the Gigabyte GTX 670. Stays cool, and is near silent. I presume the fan setup is quite similar to the HD7970.
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January 11, 2013 10:02:48 PM

BigMack70 said:
The same fantasy land where PhysX and Adaptive Vsync are unstoppable? :lol: 
:lol:  true that.
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January 11, 2013 10:10:09 PM

CaptainTom said:
My 7970 consistently benches 30-40% higher than 670's. I would call that quite a lead...

Seriously use the gpu hierarchy chart. It is very accurate right now. The 7970 IS 10-20% stronger at stock and the 7950 is about 5-10% weaker at stock.

When the 7950 is overclocked it matches or slightly beats the overclocked 670, and when the 7970 is overclocked it loses the 670 in its review mirror as it zips past the overclocked 680 too!


I could say something about your post like everyone else did, but I'll cover a different fallacy in it... The Radeon 7970 doesn't overclock better than the Radeon 7950 by much at all on average (granted the 7970 GHz Edition is known to have a decent advantage in this, but it is kinda hindered by its inferior BIOS). So, pretty much everything that you said is false to some degree. Also, according to Tom's graphics card chart, the 7970 is at best about 10% better than the 670 on average and even then, the difference is usually a little less than that (still on average).
January 11, 2013 10:16:40 PM

blazorthon said:
I could say something about your post like everyone else did, but I'll cover a different fallacy in it... The Radeon 7970 doesn't overclock better than the Radeon 7950 by much at all on average (granted the 7970 GHz Edition is known to have a decent advantage in this, but it is kinda hindered by its inferior BIOS). So, pretty much everything that you said is false to some degree. Also, according to Tom's graphics card chart, the 7970 is at best about 10% better than the 670 on average and even then, the difference is usually a little less than that (still on average).



I don't know which to get, GTX 670 or 7970. Hard one!
January 11, 2013 10:22:03 PM

I've decided I'm going to get the MSI GTX 670 Power Edition. Only problem I have now is the issue they had with triple over voltage last thing I don't want happening is 5 months it breaks. The place I'm buying it from I don't know if they have the new batch ones that fixed it. How do I know this?
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January 11, 2013 10:22:39 PM

The answer is simple :whistle:  i look at it like this which ever gives me better bang for my buck and has solid driver support and favors the games i play that will be the card i pick when i buy one rather it be amd or Nvidia makes no difference to me i favor my wallet :lol: 
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January 11, 2013 10:25:07 PM

shaunw50 said:
I've decided I'm going to get the MSI GTX 670 Power Edition. Only problem I have now is the issue they had with triple over voltage last thing I don't want happening is 5 months it breaks. The place I'm buying it from I don't know if they have the new batch ones that fixed it. How do I know this?
The card is fine i have it no worries. In action :D  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnLUJxCBZUg&feature=plcp Crysis 2 Campaign MSI GTX 670 OC Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiE_4cz0aDo&feature=plcp Battlefield 3 PC Operation Swordfish Campaign Combat GTX 670

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January 11, 2013 10:27:49 PM

I'd prefer the 7970, but that's because I'd use it in ways that it tends to best the 670. Some other people (possibly such as yourself) might use the 670 in ways that it bests the 7970. For example, I don't care about 3D gaming, but if you did, from what I've read, Nvidia has AMD beat in 3D gaming and that would make the 670 be a better option.

If given the opportunity, I'd use some programs that can make use of the huge Direct Compute and OpenCL advantage that the 7970 has over the 670. The 7970's overclocking advantage would definitely also play a part in my decision.

PhysX wouldn't worry me because if I wanted GPU PhysX, then I'd throw in one of my many spare Nvidia cards to act as a PhysX processing unit for the 7970 and I don't care much for adaptive V-Sync (I prefer Lucid Virtual V-Sync).

If I was to recommend a 670, then I'd probably go for the Zotac AMP! model.
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January 11, 2013 10:31:56 PM

BigMack70 said:
That's because there's no one-size-fits-all answer to which of those two cards is the better buy.

The good news is it means you can't really make a wrong choice. You should be happy either way. :D 
+1 :) 
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January 11, 2013 10:33:32 PM

shaunw50 said:
How do I know if I have one of the new batch that turns down the voltage
It's bs the cards are fine to my knowledge.If your that worried about it get a 7970. ;) 
January 11, 2013 10:36:57 PM

bigcyco1 said:
It's bs the cards are fine to my knowledge.If your that worried about it get a 7970. ;) 


Okay. Got the MSI GTX 670 PE
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January 11, 2013 10:38:08 PM

shaunw50 said:
Okay. Got the MSI GTX 670 PE
Congrats! :) 
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January 11, 2013 10:45:28 PM

Enjoy. It should max out pretty much any current game at 1080p even with some good levels of MSAA.
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January 12, 2013 4:39:33 AM

BigMack70 said:
:heink: 

Whatever you're smoking, you should cut it out :non: 

The 7970 is a whopping, massive, ENORMOUS 4.2% faster than the 670.

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7870_jokerCard_Tahiti_LE/images/perfrel_1920.gif



Get some facts before you post :pfff: 


You don't get it. I benchmarked MY cards. Those are my results. Also I never trust techpowerup. I can reproduce the results of every other website but theirs. Last, that is after overclocking. But then again I did just bench my 7970 OC'd vs a 680 OC'd in ugine heaven and my 7970 was 20% higher sooo....
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January 12, 2013 4:54:33 AM

CaptainTom said:
You don't get it. I benchmarked MY cards. Those are my results. Also I never trust techpowerup. I can reproduce the results of every other website but theirs. Last, that is after overclocking. But then again I did just bench my 7970 OC'd vs a 680 OC'd in ugine heaven and my 7970 was 20% higher sooo....


After overclocking... OK, that makes more sense, granted that doesn't right what you said about the 7950.
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January 12, 2013 6:47:32 AM

blazorthon said:
After overclocking... OK, that makes more sense, granted that doesn't right what you said about the 7950.


Funny you should say that. I was just benchmarking my brother's 7950 and it scored crazy close to my 7970. In fact according to TH's Metro:2033 chart it benched the same score as a 7970 GHz. I bet I can squeeze another 5% out of it so I would bet an OC'd 7950 will match an OC'd 670. No two cards are the same though, so I wager the two would be +/- 5%.
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January 12, 2013 6:54:51 AM

CaptainTom said:
Funny you should say that. I was just benchmarking my brother's 7950 and it scored crazy close to my 7970. In fact according to TH's Metro:2033 chart it benched the same score as a 7970 GHz. I bet I can squeeze another 5% out of it so I would bet an OC'd 7950 will match an OC'd 670. No two cards are the same though, so I wager the two would be +/- 5%.


Like I said, most 7950s can easily score as high as most 7970s :) 
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