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Upgrading PC after 4 Years(2009) Need Help! [PC Noob]

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March 1, 2013 9:18:58 PM

Hey guys I need your tips and help because I wanna upgrade this crap PC(4 years old.) of mine to a Gaming rig. I wanna know what to replace and not to replace from this rig.

(screenshot)My crappy Setup:
I don't know what to type so i just downloaded this program that summarizes my crappy pc.
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So yea thats my pc.

I need your help guys. I still don't know what my budget is. I don't know the price but you guys give me the price to upgrade this pc.

I need a pc that can run Dota2,Tera,Skyrim max settings = 55-60 fps(SMOOTH AS SILK please D: )

Thanks guys Please leave your suggestions.

Your reply would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry for repost i really need your help.
March 1, 2013 9:21:30 PM

Do you have a budget? And do you plan on keeping the current case you have and powersupply?
Edit, my bad you said you don't have one yet. If you have a ball park amount that would definitely help
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March 1, 2013 9:25:49 PM

Hey guys I need your tips and help because I wanna upgrade this crap PC of mine to a Gaming rig. I wanna know what to replace and not to replace from this rig. (PC is 4 Years old with outdated graphics.) I can't even run TF2, Dota 2 without getting 10 fps.

(screenshot)My crappy Setup:
I don't know what to type so i just downloaded this program that summarizes my crappy pc.
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So yea thats my pc.

Some people told me I just have to replace the GPU,CPU and increase the ram and I'm good. Is that true? Please fill me up with info ( No homo. )

I need your help guys. I still don't know what my budget is. I don't know the price but you guys give me the price to upgrade this pc.

I need a pc that can run Dota2,Tera,Skyrim max settings = 55-60 fps(SMOOTH AS SILK please D: )

Thanks guys Please leave your suggestions.

Your reply would be greatly appreciated.
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March 1, 2013 9:27:19 PM

Hey,

The biggest performance boost would be getting a new graphics card. However as cdrkeen said we need to know your budget, and what model of power supply you have to see what card/other upgrades you can get.
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March 1, 2013 9:37:25 PM

Since you do not have a budget, I am going to have to guess everything here.
To run skyrim in ultra settings, you have to change your entire system since everything you currently have is extremely old and low end. I am leaving your hard drives, optical dvd drives and case out of here. But everything else has to be changed and upgraded.



Asrock B75m motherboard- $53

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel i3 3220 cpu- $130

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gskill ripjaws 4gb ram -$26

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sapphire hd7850 graphics card- $190

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair cx500 power supply- $60

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

altogether the build would be worth around $450 but it should be able to handle many new games and max out the old ones with ease.
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March 1, 2013 9:47:32 PM

CPU-For gaming, I would recommend the 3570k or if you have more money to spare then just grab the i7 if you don't plan on upgrading for another 4 years. The extra threads will help more and more for upcoming titles. Crysis 3 uses more than 4 cores right now. You can get the 3570k for $215 at newegg or if you have a microcenter near you they have it for $189 and another 50 off if you pair it with a z77 motherboard.

GPU- good value for the money the 7850 2gb is pretty hard to beat. The GTX660 is is a pretty good value too however the 7850 comes with 2 free $50 dollar games and overclocks very easily to 1050 core making it close to a 7870, I hear nvidia cards don't overclock too well. Either of these should be enough to get your 55-60 fps. The trade off though is that the nvidia cards are more power efficient and their drivers are typically better. Although I haven't ran into any problems so far with the ATI card

but if you want to go a little future proof then I would step up to the 7970ghz or the gtx 680 which run for roughly $450 again the ati card comes with 2 $50 dollar games Crysis 3 and Bioshock infinite for this combo. Obviously this depends on your budget.

Edit: you could also step up to a 7950 or a gtx 660 TI $289 and $300 again ati comes with 2 free games and the ati card overclocks better

If you don't plan on running crossfire or sli then the board I have in my sig the Asrock z77 pro3 is a great budget z77 board that can be had for around $90 and $45 if you have a microcenter near you. It can still run crossfire but if you put two higher end cards in the 4x slow it would bottle neck some around 10 percent hit. If you want to step up a little on the mobo than I would recommend the Asrock z77 pro4 extreme.

You can get a set up good vengeance ddr 1600 8GB set for around $55

Also here is a benchmark for skyrim and various video card setups. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-...
and a great cpu and gpu comparison site: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

Total System cost excluding new case, power supply and os=
$560 for the 7850 2gb z77 pro3 system

$500 if you can get it from microcenter may have to buy videocard elsewhere they mark their video cards up a little higher than other people.

$810 if you want to upgrade to a more future proof video card.

$650 for 7950 gtx 660 TI
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March 1, 2013 10:15:51 PM

Those people were right from what I can see all you need to upgrade is your CPU, GPU and RAM.
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March 1, 2013 10:17:21 PM

Id say you replace the mobo with an 1155 socket one if you want to do some serious gaming in the future.
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March 1, 2013 10:28:13 PM

what budget do you have to play with?
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March 1, 2013 11:00:31 PM

about $350 for gpu,cpu, and alot of ram. can it fit?
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March 1, 2013 11:00:34 PM

about $350 for gpu,cpu, and alot of ram. can it fit?
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March 1, 2013 11:08:32 PM

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Id say you replace the mobo with an 1155 socket one if you want to do some serious gaming in the future.


sir what is a mobo? 1155 socket? can you please explain and give a price.
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March 1, 2013 11:11:23 PM

Sir My initial budget for the gpu,cpu and ram is $350 is that enough to cover everything?
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  • Upgrading PC after 4 Years(2009) Need Help! [PC Noob]
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    March 1, 2013 11:35:41 PM

    Vordiggan said:
    Sir My initial budget for the gpu,cpu and ram is $350 is that enough to cover everything?


    That will be pretty tight to run skyrim with 55 60 fps. Do you have a micro center around you? An amd system might be the best fit for you. Some people will probably get on here saying intel blah blah is a must. But for games, an fx 6300 would be a great choice for you and am3+ socket will be upgradable to next gen cpu's whereas the 1155 socket will no longer be upgradable.

    http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.as... you could get the fx6300 for $119 with a free motherboard stock in some cheap ddr3 1333 8GB kit $40 that would leave you with about $190 for a graphics card.
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    March 1, 2013 11:42:07 PM

    shamsmu said:
    Since you do not have a budget, I am going to have to guess everything here.
    To run skyrim in ultra settings, you have to change your entire system since everything you currently have is extremely old and low end. I am leaving your hard drives, optical dvd drives and case out of here. But everything else has to be changed and upgraded.



    Asrock B75m motherboard- $53

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Intel i3 3220 cpu- $130

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Gskill ripjaws 4gb ram -$26

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Sapphire hd7850 graphics card- $190

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Corsair cx500 power supply- $60

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    altogether the build would be worth around $450 but it should be able to handle many new games and max out the old ones with ease.


    Hello sir,

    I will follow this guide to see if its good.
    Is my motherboard really bad? If yes i can change it.
    doubling the ram to 8gb would be great.
    instead of that 1GB ill switch it to this:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    i don't know much about power supply.

    all of this research done within 2hours.
    please help me guys!
    thanks for the support
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    March 1, 2013 11:49:36 PM

    The fx 6300 will be cheaper allowing for 8gb ram and it also beats the i3 in skyrim check this benchmark out http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=677

    Also the fx6300 can be overlocked easily for a good performance boost. the i3 is locked. The extra core and threads of the fx 6300 will help you big down the road.

    Edit: also what resolution is your monitor? I would highly recommend going with a 2gb model graphics card.
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    March 1, 2013 11:53:05 PM

    cdrkeen said:
    The fx 6300 will be cheaper allowing for 8gb ram and it also beats the i3 in skyrim check this benchmark out http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=677

    Also the fx6300 can be overlocked easily for a good performance boost. the i3 is locked. The extra core and threads of the fx 6300 will help you big down the road.


    I see. I'm listing a couple of items here. I really wanna make this cheap,best, and future proof D:
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    March 1, 2013 11:55:12 PM

    Whats a cheap power supply and mobo? maybe around $50 each?
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    March 1, 2013 11:57:07 PM

    Vordiggan said:
    Whats a cheap power supply and mobo? maybe around $50 each?


    Yes but post whatever motherboard and psu you are looking at here, there are a lot of crappy $50 components in that range.

    not sure if you saw me question before. Do you have a microcenter around you?
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    March 1, 2013 11:57:27 PM

    cdrkeen said:
    The fx 6300 will be cheaper allowing for 8gb ram and it also beats the i3 in skyrim check this benchmark out http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=677

    Also the fx6300 can be overlocked easily for a good performance boost. the i3 is locked. The extra core and threads of the fx 6300 will help you big down the road.

    Edit: also what resolution is your monitor? I would highly recommend going with a 2gb model graphics card.


    crappy monitor about 1280x1024

    EDIT: would this be good enough for a 2gb gpu? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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    March 1, 2013 11:57:56 PM

    if you never think you will upgrade that monitor than the 1gb is more than fine
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    March 2, 2013 12:00:50 AM

    cdrkeen said:
    if you never think you will upgrade that monitor than the 1gb is more than fine


    i can buy one if its really essential
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    March 2, 2013 12:02:34 AM

    cdrkeen said:
    if you never think you will upgrade that monitor than the 1gb is more than fine


    But I also plug my CPU via HDMI cable to me LED 42 inch screen. I dunno if thats gonna work. I watch movies and play a couple of games there.
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    March 2, 2013 12:03:58 AM

    Vordiggan said:
    crappy monitor about 1280x1024

    EDIT: would this be good enough for a 2gb gpu? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


    To be honest at that resolution 2gb is overkill and probably the gtx650ti would work great for you at that resolution with the games you play. However there may be games that come out that you will be happy you payed more for the extra performance if that's a concern of yours go for the 7850 the 2gb model is only $20 more so you might as well get that.
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    March 2, 2013 12:05:45 AM

    Vordiggan said:
    But I also plug my CPU via HDMI cable to me LED 42 inch screen. I dunno if thats gonna work. I watch movies and play a couple of games there.


    yup that should work, then definitely get the 2gb model
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    March 2, 2013 12:07:28 AM

    cdrkeen said:
    To be honest at that resolution 2gb is overkill and probably the gtx650ti would work great for you at that resolution with the games you play. However there may be games that come out that you will be happy you payed more for the extra performance if that's a concern of yours go for the 7850 the 2gb model is only $20 more so you might as well get that.


    Overkill = bad? harmful sideffects?
    Also, Do i need a new mobo? someone said mine is crappy. can you suggest a good,cheap one?
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    March 2, 2013 12:12:35 AM

    Vordiggan said:
    Overkill = bad? harmful sideffects?
    Also, Do i need a new mobo? someone said mine is crappy. can you suggest a good,cheap one?


    No it wouldnt do damage overkill meaning it would be more than you would need

    Yes if you get a new cpu you will have to upgrade your motherboard and ram. Do you have a micro center around you? You can get the fx6300 and a free gigabyte motherboard, gigabyte is known for their reliability over other companies these days. But Asrock is very good too so stick with those 2 manufacturers and you'll be okay.

    http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.as...
    scroll down to the fx6300 combo and you can get a free gigabyte motherboard with it. That is if you live near a microcenter.
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    March 2, 2013 12:15:42 AM

    cdrkeen said:
    No it wouldnt do damage overkill meaning it would be more than you would need

    Yes if you get a new cpu you will have to upgrade your motherboard and ram. Do you have a micro center around you? You can get the fx6300 and a free gigabyte motherboard, gigabyte is known for their reliability over other companies these days. But Asrock is very good too so stick with those 2 manufacturers and you'll be okay.

    http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.as...
    scroll down to the fx6300 combo and you can get a free gigabyte motherboard with it. That is if you live near a microcenter.


    I dunno if we have Microcenter here in Qatar[Middle East] But i'll look for one.
    If i cant find it, can i buy this mobo? GA-78LMT-S2P Socket AM3+ 760G mATX
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    March 2, 2013 12:18:02 AM

    hmm looks like the fx6300 is currently out of stock but they should get it back soon.
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    March 2, 2013 12:19:42 AM

    Vordiggan said:
    I dunno if we have Microcenter here in Qatar[Middle East] But i'll look for one.
    If i cant find it, can i buy this mobo? GA-78LMT-S2P Socket AM3+ 760G mATX


    Ok you definitely don't have a micro center there lol no worries, then I would look to Newegg. Let me see what I can come up with for you. I'll edit this message with some components. Also what kind of power supply do you have and can you go over the $350 limit at all?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $48.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $184.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $43.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $139.99

    Total of $417.96
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    March 2, 2013 12:21:08 AM

    cdrkeen said:
    hmm looks like the fx6300 is currently out of stock but they should get it back soon.



    So man this is what i had in mind:

    GPU : GIGABYTE GV-R785OC-2GD Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI

    CPU : AMD FX-6300

    RAM : 2x8GB PowerEdge T310 240pin PC3-10600 1333MHz DDR3 (?)

    MOBO : GA-78LMT-S2P Socket AM3+ 760G mATX (?)
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    March 2, 2013 5:39:46 AM

    cdrkeen said:
    Ok you definitely don't have a micro center there lol no worries, then I would look to Newegg. Let me see what I can come up with for you. I'll edit this message with some components. Also what kind of power supply do you have and can you go over the $350 limit at all?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $48.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $184.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $43.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $139.99

    Total of $417.96


    Thanks man!

    I'll follow this build.

    Also how bout some power supplies? How many watts? Please suggest one.
    And some cheap 1tb storage? Can I use my hardisks? because I have a 3TB hardisk unused.
    Can I use it here?
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    March 2, 2013 6:41:25 AM

    To be honest the power supply is the one thing I would not cheap out on. I could recommend some cheaper corsair or seasonic psu's and you might get away with it fine, but personally I wouldn't spend anything less than $75 for one. If anyone knows of a reliable psu for under that please inform him. Typically I like to leave good space between the max watts capable of a psu and the usage for a given system because it reduces riples and general strain on the psu which creates heat and instability, sure some lower wattage psu's are capable of running this setup but if you ever think of going crossfire or upgrading to a more powerful gpu even if the power requirements keep lowering. 650 watt psu is about what you want to get these days to give room for upgrading and overclocking the cpu and gpu's

    This is the minimum I would recommend http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    The 3TB should work just fine.
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    March 2, 2013 8:18:35 AM

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