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March 2, 2013 5:33:23 AM

This will be my first gaming PC build and I want to make sure I do not make any "newbie" mistakes (which of course will end up happening anyway). My question is simply: are there any suggestions/comments on my choice of parts including what I should look into changing and what was a good choice? (Keep price basically the same please) Any help is appreciated, Thank You!

Note: Case and Monitor have already been purchased (on sales) but is still included on the total price at the bottom.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($182.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.86 @ Compuvest)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.00 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G400 Wired Optical Mouse ($29.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $1420.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-02 02:29 EST-0500)

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March 2, 2013 5:48:46 AM

I made a mistake :heink:  the motherboard Channel Supported is Dual Channel 2x4 or 4x2 max of 1600MHz - 32 GB and Z77 fine to keep it cool and upgradable, and if you can add small CPU liquid cooler will be NICE :sol: 
March 2, 2013 6:05:40 AM

What is this for? Are you planning on overclocking? You're getting a locked cpu with a z77 mobo, bad idea. Get 2x4gb for dual channel memory.
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March 2, 2013 6:20:24 AM

If this is for mainly gaming get the i5-3570k, lower down some parts, and get a higher end gpu like the 670 gtx.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($223.79 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek GAIA SD1283 56.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.48 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.86 @ Compuvest)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($363.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G400 Wired Optical Mouse ($29.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $1417.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

I would try to get some parts in ncix us(it's reliable)
The hdd : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&promoid=1324
Ram : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1321
Case : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76376&promoid=1324
March 2, 2013 6:24:49 AM

I was just going to suggest what djangoringo said, as hyperthreading won't do you any good in gaming. A sweet 670 will be a lot better.
March 2, 2013 6:25:51 AM

realchaos said:
What is this for? Are you planning on overclocking? You're getting a locked cpu with a z77 mobo, bad idea. Get 2x4gb for dual channel memory.


Would you care to explain the "bad" cpu/mobo combo I have right now? Not trying to sound defensive, I just have no idea what I am doing :lol: 

EDIT: Well, after doing some quick research, I did find that z77's are really only needed if I am going to overclock or crossfire. I had no idea hahaha I can see now that an h77 will be my best choice. Thank you very much!
March 2, 2013 6:27:46 AM

For gaming, you don't need the i7, it won't make a difference see here : http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_3570K_...

Also you got the i7-3770 non k, with a z77 board, you'll want the k for overclocking.
In sum, you have a expensive motherboard, most z77 motherboards around ~135$ will give you all that you need, for gaming, the i5-3570k is the best choice and a high end gpu.
Edit : i would also change the keyboard for a mechanical one : http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0068INSUM/
Didn't listed on the previous post.
March 2, 2013 6:31:45 AM

djangoringo said:
If this is for mainly gaming get the i5-3570k, lower down some parts, and get a higher end gpu like the 670 gtx.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($223.79 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek GAIA SD1283 56.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.48 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.86 @ Compuvest)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($363.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G400 Wired Optical Mouse ($29.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $1417.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

I would try to get some parts in ncix us(it's reliable)
The hdd : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&promoid=1324
Ram : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1321
Case : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76376&promoid=1324


Oops, forgot to mention that I had already bought both the case and monitor (sales), I'll make sure to put it in the description. I had that processor for a while, but I am planning on keeping this computer for a while, and I do not feel comfortable overclocking it (yet). Let me know your thoughts, as I have a lot to learn still. Thanks!
March 2, 2013 6:54:51 AM

djangoringo said:
Well just ditch the case and monitor on the list, if you don't want to overclock, get the i5-3350p/i5-3470 and a h77/z75 motherboard.
Something like this : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GX49

The hdd : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&promoid=1324
Ram : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1321


I've decided I don't need the i7, so now it's just down to the motherboard. The ones I'm looking at are http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , and the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... . For this build, how many SATA 6.0Gb/s ports do I need? will two be enough?
Also, I greatly appreciate the advice!
March 2, 2013 7:01:41 AM

Yes, two will be enough, the z75 offers all that you need and it's cheaper, i'd get asrock the z75 pro 3, it has two Sata III ports, four dimms slots, all that the h77 offers minus the two sata III asmedia ports, but it still has two SATA III ports from intel, and it can overclock(even though, you don't want to, but still it's a feature) for less.

It was used in the toms hardware recent 600$ build : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-gaming-overclock...

But if you want the extra sata ports get the asrock h77 pro 4 mvp.
March 2, 2013 7:09:39 AM

djangoringo said:
Yes, two will be enough, the z75 offers all that you need and it's cheaper, i'd get asrock the z75 pro 3, it has two Sata III ports, four dimms slots, all that the h77 offers minus the two sata III asmedia ports, but it still has two SATA III ports from intel, and it can overclock(even though, you don't want to, but still it's a feature) for less.

It was used in the toms hardware recent 600$ build : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-gaming-overclock...

But if you want the extra sata ports get the asrock h77 pro 4 mvp.



i agree..relax from the i5 and whatnot
March 2, 2013 7:27:38 AM

djangoringo said:
Yes, two will be enough, the z75 offers all that you need and it's cheaper, i'd get asrock the z75 pro 3, it has two Sata III ports, four dimms slots, all that the h77 offers minus the two sata III asmedia ports, but it still has two SATA III ports from intel, and it can overclock(even though, you don't want to, but still it's a feature) for less.

It was used in the toms hardware recent 600$ build : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-gaming-overclock...

But if you want the extra sata ports get the asrock h77 pro 4 mvp.



So my new write up looks like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.51 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Green) ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($166.98 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G400 Wired Optical Mouse ($29.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $1438.80
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-02 04:24 EST-0500)

All in all, I'm pumped that I am able to get the better graphics card and my CPU cooler, all for the same(barely more expensive, but shhh, don't ruin the moment) price. If there is any more you would like to share I'm all ears and once again, thank you so much for your help, it has really been, well, helpful :sol: 
March 2, 2013 7:33:26 AM

djangoringo said:
Yes, two will be enough, the z75 offers all that you need and it's cheaper, i'd get asrock the z75 pro 3, it has two Sata III ports, four dimms slots, all that the h77 offers minus the two sata III asmedia ports, but it still has two SATA III ports from intel, and it can overclock(even though, you don't want to, but still it's a feature) for less.

It was used in the toms hardware recent 600$ build : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-gaming-overclock...

But if you want the extra sata ports get the asrock h77 pro 4 mvp.


Also, thanks for the link for the RAM, what a steal!
March 2, 2013 11:58:57 PM

djangoringo said:
For gaming, you don't need the i7, it won't make a difference see here : http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_3570K_...

Also you got the i7-3770 non k, with a z77 board, you'll want the k for overclocking.
In sum, you have a expensive motherboard, most z77 motherboards around ~135$ will give you all that you need, for gaming, the i5-3570k is the best choice and a high end gpu.
Edit : i would also change the keyboard for a mechanical one : http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0068INSUM/
Didn't listed on the previous post.


soupkid94 said:
This will be my first gaming PC build and I want to make sure I do not make any "newbie" mistakes (which of course will end up happening anyway). My question is simply: are there any suggestions/comments on my choice of parts including what I should look into changing and what was a good choice? (Keep price basically the same please) Any help is appreciated, Thank You!

Note: Case and Monitor have already been purchased (on sales) but is still included on the total price at the bottom.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($182.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.86 @ Compuvest)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.00 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G400 Wired Optical Mouse ($29.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $1420.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-02 02:29 EST-0500)


I started thinking, looking around some more, and I found a great deal on a gigabyte mobo that will allow me to over clock and have sli capabilities if I want them in the future. I made another write-up and it turned out to be a little under $100 more (with the PSU suggested by realchaos and the unlocked cpu). Do you think that it would be worth it to have the future "expandability" and over clocking options if I want to use them eventually? Also, the motherboard is on sale now so I might just buy it soon to save money. Thanks!
March 3, 2013 12:04:40 AM

If you want to overclock the cpu, then yes, get the unlocked cpu, if you don't, there's no reason to get it, it will just add in the costs, also worth mention, i would invest more on the gpu for a 660 ti or 670 gtx, SLI is dandy but in my opinion only if you want it now, there's no point in getting just a single card now and think that a year later to sli, by then, you might not find the cards at a good price point or that most are discontinued.
The z75 motherboard at 77$ is a good value, it offers overclocking capabilities, you can raise the i5-3470 to 4 ghz.
But if you found a gigabyte board at a good price, it's up to you to choose the board.
March 3, 2013 1:02:07 AM

What's the new write-up? How great of a deal is the gigabyte mobo? Imo, having the mobo just in case you wanted to SLI isn't a great idea. When you decide to SLI in the future, they'll probably have better cards like the 700series. You could just sell the 660 and then buy a single 700 card or use the 660 in a weaker build. On things like "I might overclock/SLI" it's really a good idea to decide before you buy it. If you decide not to, you just wasted money on parts that you won't even need.
March 3, 2013 1:50:18 AM

realchaos said:
What's the new write-up? How great of a deal is the gigabyte mobo? Imo, having the mobo just in case you wanted to SLI isn't a great idea. When you decide to SLI in the future, they'll probably have better cards like the 700series. You could just sell the 660 and then buy a single 700 card or use the 660 in a weaker build. On things like "I might overclock/SLI" it's really a good idea to decide before you buy it. If you decide not to, you just wasted money on parts that you won't even need.


***, messed up on the reply to the comment above me, here's the new one:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.51 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Green) ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($166.98 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G400 Wired Optical Mouse ($29.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $1496.80
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-02 22:48 EST-0500)
March 3, 2013 2:06:33 AM

djangoringo said:
If you want to overclock the cpu, then yes, get the unlocked cpu, if you don't, there's no reason to get it, it will just add in the costs, also worth mention, i would invest more on the gpu for a 660 ti or 670 gtx, SLI is dandy but in my opinion only if you want it now, there's no point in getting just a single card now and think that a year later to sli, by then, you might not find the cards at a good price point or that most are discontinued.
The z75 motherboard at 77$ is a good value, it offers overclocking capabilities, you can raise the i5-3470 to 4 ghz.
But if you found a gigabyte board at a good price, it's up to you to choose the board.


Yeah, I guess that is true, by the time I'll want to SLI, there will be newer stuff out anyway. I think ill save myself some money and go with this one. I am sorry I keep going back and forth on this, I just want to make sure my money is well spent.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.51 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Green) ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($166.98 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G400 Wired Optical Mouse ($29.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $1448.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-02 23:04 EST-0500)
March 3, 2013 2:08:51 AM

Nice build. Just to be sure, you could overclock but you can't SLI. Otherwise, nice build!

With the 2nd build just above my post, get a 3470 instead. The difference is really minimal for like $20 cheaper. You could drop the aftermarket cooler and just stick with the stock cooler if you want to save money. Imo stock coolers are fine and if your cpu dies because the stock cooler wasn't efficient, you can send it back for a replacement since it's intel's fault. Just make sure you don't overclock with the 2nd build!
March 3, 2013 2:12:33 AM

You don't need the cm hyper 212 evo, the stock cooler is fine, i recommend going with the i5-3470, its performance difference will be negligible and it's less ~20$.
That ram is way too expensive, you can get cheaper parts in ncix us(it's a trusted website, well known), don't forget it, like the ram, hdd, and psu.

In case you didn't notice :
The hdd : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&promoid=1324
Ram : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1321
Psu : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1257

Also i recommend the asus ips monitor : http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vs239hp
But that one is also good for the price.
You might want the CM Storm QuickFire Rapid, since it's a mechanical gaming keyboard for just 5$ more : http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0068INSUM/

And good luck with your build.
!