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March 2, 2013 4:52:01 PM

Hello All,

I've been reading ton's of posts on here the last couple of days. Now it is time to post my questions.

I am by no means new to building/working on pc's. But this is my first HTPC build. I was wondering what all of you thought about this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master GeminII M4 58.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Corsair Force Series 3 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($123.50 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone ML03B HTPC Case ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Masscool FD08025S1M4 31.7 CFM 80mm Fan ($3.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Masscool FD08025S1M4 31.7 CFM 80mm Fan ($3.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Logitech K400 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Touchpad ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $645.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-02 13:49 EST-0500)

I would like to get the price down by atleast another $100 or so, however If I can't I can't.

Please let me know your thoughts soon as my promo codes are going to run out on me!

Thanks,
Andy

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March 2, 2013 6:06:38 PM

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I should also mention I'm buying the SSD and HDD refurbished with warranties from Newegg, as of right now the total cost is:

$590.76

If I could some how drop this to right at $500 that would be great!
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March 2, 2013 6:53:36 PM

Ok, update:

The SSD I wanted sold-out. So I repleace the HDD with just a single 120gb SSD making the total cost as of now 576.92.

If I desire extra space down the road I can add an HDD back to the mix.

Its a Samsung 830 - 120gb
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March 2, 2013 7:00:23 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/H2Ud
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/H2Ud/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/H2Ud/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A8-5600K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($103.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: OCZ Agility 4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone ML03B HTPC Case ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 380W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHOS104-06 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $509.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-02 16:00 EST-0500)
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March 2, 2013 7:03:48 PM

What are you wanting to accomplish with this system? Just curious because I'm running a much lower powered system that's able to play HD 1080p video without any issues whatsoever. It seems to me like you could save money by using a lower powered CPU and scrapping all of the extra coolers and fans. Also in my build, I opted for a single 2TB drive instead of using an SSD. My HTPC is almost always on and running what I want to run, so I don't think I'd see much of a performance by having the OS on an SSD. Just my personal preference though.
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March 2, 2013 7:14:34 PM

I second trivliallytravis' question. I have an E-350 build with a raid box attached for my HTPC, it plays 1080p flawlessly & lower demand games as well. Not counting the raid box, it cost me less than $200 total.

Hell, if all you want is decent 1080p playback, a $35 raspberry pi can do that :) 
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March 3, 2013 12:40:23 AM

I went ahead and ordered this:


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master GeminII M4 58.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Scorpio Black 160GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.88 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Silverstone ML03B HTPC Case ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Masscool FD08025S1M4 31.7 CFM 80mm Fan ($3.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Masscool FD08025S1M4 31.7 CFM 80mm Fan ($3.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Logitech K400 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Touchpad ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $591.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-02 21:32 EST-0500)


I want something to completely replace DirecTV, and my BluRay player, and something that's going to be decent enough for at least 5 years.

If this is too much system I can still cancel the order,
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March 3, 2013 3:17:09 AM

It looks like you already had your mind made up before you posted here...

Decent enough for what is the question all our posts have been asking. The point in every reply is that build is complete overkill for an HTPC if you just want 1080p playback. Are you planning to buy a 4k TV or something?
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March 3, 2013 3:32:42 AM

i dont know if you know this but that blu ray drive doesn't come with bluray playback software.
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March 3, 2013 4:04:12 AM

Yes, I realize it doesn't come with the software.

Every thread that I read talking about an HTPC everyone was saying to go with a trinity APU or an I5, So if this is over kill then what would be more realistic? Could I pull this off with a triple core? or less? I also want the mobo to have a USB 3.0 header.

If I can take $100 or so out of the main parts, I could upgrade the BD drive, and the HDD that would be nice!
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March 3, 2013 4:25:03 AM

Ok, I have canceled my order.

Should I just go for a Llano core and build an ITX?

Also, What is the best BD driver for blu-ray playback? I am open to anything, I don't have to stay with AMD, but Integrated graphics would be a plus (keeps the cost down!)
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March 3, 2013 5:55:14 AM

this is the system i use

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HaJI
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HaJI/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HaJI/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A6-5400K 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($73.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($31.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone ML03B HTPC Case ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($43.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $419.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-03 02:51 EST-0500)

i don't use a bluray drive cause i have a standalone player. Also i use ubuntu with openelec i don't like windows plus linux keeps the cost down.

you can go even cheaper . but i feel this gives me good performance for web browsing and game emulators . i just got done building one for a friend to just watch movies and go on the internet for a little over 300 dollars
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March 3, 2013 6:04:20 AM

How does the AData hold up?
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March 3, 2013 6:27:31 AM

i haven't had any problems with it. but i have only had the system for a few months
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March 3, 2013 7:31:18 AM

Well, I have re-done the whole thing now.

I do plan on doing some re-encoding every now and then, so I did want to stay with the Quad Core, and for only $30.00 more than the A6 I got the A8. I got the SSD on sale, and the HDD is refurb.

The PSU is on sale and has a $20 MiB and the BD-Rom is also on Sale. Wound up saving a pretty decent amount over what I had originally.

My Total cost is $503.30 minus the keyboard. So I'm right there were I wanted to be. If I need to down the road I'll add a CPU Cooler if it is needed.

Thanks bodeen2012!


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A8-5600K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($103.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 + $16.00 2yr Warranty @ Newegg Refurb.)
Case: Silverstone ML03B HTPC Case ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Masscool FD08025S1M4 31.7 CFM 80mm Fan ($2.86 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Masscool FD08025S1M4 31.7 CFM 80mm Fan ($2.86 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K400 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Touchpad ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Pioneer Black Internal Blu-ray Combo DVD & CD Drive SATA Model BDC-207DBK ($39.99)
Total: $538.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-03 04:28 EST-0500)
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March 3, 2013 7:37:04 AM

Best answer selected by ARKSoft.
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March 3, 2013 12:21:55 PM

triviallytravis said:
What are you wanting to accomplish with this system? Just curious because I'm running a much lower powered system that's able to play HD 1080p video without any issues whatsoever. It seems to me like you could save money by using a lower powered CPU and scrapping all of the extra coolers and fans. Also in my build, I opted for a single 2TB drive instead of using an SSD. My HTPC is almost always on and running what I want to run, so I don't think I'd see much of a performance by having the OS on an SSD. Just my personal preference though.


Hey - I'm looking to build my first HTPC. My primary goal is to play 1080p video so I guess all I need is a system that can store and play my content flawlessly - would you post the $200 system you put together?

this is what I'm looking ta now:

CPU: AMD A8-5600K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: ASRock A75M-ITX FM1 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Mini ITX AMD
Memory: CORSAIR 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMV4GX3M1A1333C9
Storage: Western Digital WD Green WD20EARX 2TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Case: Silverstone ML03B HTPC Case
Case Fan: Masscool FD08025S1M4 31.7 CFM 80mm Fan ($2.86 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Masscool FD08025S1M4 31.7 CFM 80mm Fan ($2.86 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
BD: LITE-ON Black Internal 12X Blu-ray Combo SATA Model ihes112-04 - OEM
Total: $462

Thanks,

Tom
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March 3, 2013 2:08:02 PM

Tom,

I see one flaw in your design, you have posted an ITX motherboard, the Micro-ATX motherboard is cheaper than the ITX and fits into that case.

From what I have learned, if all you are looking to do is play 1080p you can drop your build another $30.00 and use the AMD A6-5400K. I have read several threads stating that unless you plan on doing video encoding you do not need 4 cores for an HTPC.

Having the two case fans on hand would be for peace of mind. I'm not sure if I'm going to install them or not.

Also, I'm not sure if you considered it or not, but you can buy the WD Greens refurbished and add a 2yr warranty to them for an extra $16.00 considering if you buy one new it only comes with a 2 year this is the route I went to save some extra money.

So maybe change it to look like this:

CPU: AMD A6-5400K 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M Micro ATX FM2
Memory: CORSAIR 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMV4GX3M1A1333C9
Storage: Western Digital WD Green WD20EARX 2TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Case: Silverstone ML03B HTPC Case
Case Fan: Masscool FD08025S1M4 31.7 CFM 80mm Fan ($2.86 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Masscool FD08025S1M4 31.7 CFM 80mm Fan ($2.86 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
BD: LITE-ON Black Internal 12X Blu-ray Combo SATA Model ihes112-04 - OEM

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March 3, 2013 2:56:16 PM

It will more than $200 if you want to buy it all right now. I waited for deals and got the pieces one at a time. I bought the E-350 bundled with 8gb ripjaws 1600 for $60 total (after a $10 MIR) in a newegg deal, and a 64gb crucial v4 from a slickdeals link for $50, both w/free shipping.

Can't find an e-350 on pcpartpicker. bleh.

Here's an approximation of my system,

Motherboard/APU: BIOSTAR A68I-350 Deluxe ($86@newegg)
RAM: Corsair 4GB (1 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600Mhz PC3 12800 Desktop Memory ($19@amazon)
Optical: LG Black 10X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal 12X Blu-ray Combo Drive ($50@newegg)
Case/PSU: XION XON-720P mATX/ ITX Slim Desktop Case, USB 3.0, 5 in 1 Card-reader, 300W PSU, Black ($30@newegg after MIR)
Storage: ADATA Premier Pro SP600 ASP600S3-64GM-C 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive ($65@newegg)

$250 total. You can get the cost down by checking pcpartpicker for parts besides the e-350, and of course by waiting for deals.

good luck!
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