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March 3, 2013 1:07:37 PM

I am building a new PC and was wondering what you guys thought??? A couple of things to keep in mind:

I do not play games, so this is not a gaming computer.
This will be used primarily for graphic design. Here is a break down of use:

Adobe After Effects & Adobe Premier (edit of HD recorded videos, less then 60 minutes): 30%
Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign, etc...: 60%
Other software: 10%

Also, I want to retain the ability to expand storage, i.e. more internal HDD's, coupled with WD Green NAS storage for backup.

Regarding the video card, I need 2 work monitors, and preview monitor, so 2 DVI's and 1 either HDMI or the other kind of connect.

Any suggestions on cooling also appreciated (don't need liquid).

I really wanted to keep this under $2,200, but can't find a way. Any suggestions appreciated. Thank you.


CPU: Intel Core-i7 3930K Sandy Bridge-E LGA 2011 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 LGA 2011 64GB Max RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card: GIGABYTE GV-N680OC-2GD GeForce GTX 680 2GB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4x8GB) 1866 (PC3 14900) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

STORAGE:

OS (win 64): Samsung 840 Pro 64GB Internal SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Programs: Samsung 840 Pro 128GB Internal SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ACTIVE USE DRIVES (Rendering and main content storage): 2 x WD 2TB Caviar Black WD2002FAEX - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: Cooler Master RS-800 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

March 3, 2013 2:03:52 PM

By and large, I think your build is appropriate for your uses.
But, I have some suggestions:

1. A GTX680 is a fine gaming card. But, it is not necessary if you are not a gamer.
Something more modest in the GTX6xx series might be more appropriate.

2. Instead of two SSD's, I would buy a single 240gb ssd. Larger ssd's are a bit faster, and the extra capacity will avoid any eventual slowdowns due to a ssd filling up.

3. You are buying a "K" which means that you can improve performance by raising the multiplier up to the limits of your cooling capability. To that end, I suggest you buy a aftermarket cpu cooler. Likely, a $30 tower type cooler like the cm hyper212 or Xigmatek will do the job. For $80 or so, the Noctua NH-D14 or phanteks is as good as it gets.

4. Ram is cheap, 32gb for your use is good. Your motherboard supports 64gb. New gen intel cpu's are not much impacted by ram speeds when running real apps(vs. synthetic benchmarks) DDR2 1600 seems to be the sweet spot. Read this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-...
I might suggest low profile ram that will clear any cpu coolers you might want to install.

5. Coolermaster has an iffy reputation, depending on the model. I might suggest a top tier brand like Seasonic. Here is one list of quality tiers:
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
The GTX680 you listed only requires a 550W psu. I think a 650W unit would be appropriate.
I might suggest this 650w unit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
March 3, 2013 3:45:03 PM

I would consider GTX580 - there is a rumour nvidia forgot to turn off some features, so that card is on par with some of the quattro /$1000+/ professional graphic card solutions. Nice error which was sadly not repeated in the 6xx series...
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March 3, 2013 3:49:29 PM

geofelt said:
By and large, I think your build is appropriate for your uses.
But, I have some suggestions:

1. A GTX680 is a fine gaming card. But, it is not necessary if you are not a gamer.
Something more modest in the GTX6xx series might be more appropriate.

2. Instead of two SSD's, I would buy a single 240gb ssd. Larger ssd's are a bit faster, and the extra capacity will avoid any eventual slowdowns due to a ssd filling up.

3. You are buying a "K" which means that you can improve performance by raising the multiplier up to the limits of your cooling capability. To that end, I suggest you buy a aftermarket cpu cooler. Likely, a $30 tower type cooler like the cm hyper212 or Xigmatek will do the job. For $80 or so, the Noctua NH-D14 or phanteks is as good as it gets.

4. Ram is cheap, 32gb for your use is good. Your motherboard supports 64gb. New gen intel cpu's are not much impacted by ram speeds when running real apps(vs. synthetic benchmarks) DDR2 1600 seems to be the sweet spot. Read this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-...
I might suggest low profile ram that will clear any cpu coolers you might want to install.

5. Coolermaster has an iffy reputation, depending on the model. I might suggest a top tier brand like Seasonic. Here is one list of quality tiers:
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
The GTX680 you listed only requires a 550W psu. I think a 650W unit would be appropriate.
I might suggest this 650w unit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Thanks for your feedback, especially about the video card. I've been torn about this. I was considering this one as well,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125449

but after doing some research, it seems anything over 2GB is really not necessary, so the 2GB in this version,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125423

I like the NH-D14, thanks for the suggestion.

Regarding the Power Supply, I was under the impression that all components eventually contribute to the draw. So, the system described will be the initial build, with monthly add ons until full, i.e. 9 total HDD's, 64GB RAM. Do you really think that a 650W Power Supply is sufficient? Are there advantages to overshooting a little, or is it unnecessary? Are there factors that can contribute to the system drawing variable power, so that would it make sense to use something that is a little bigger?
March 3, 2013 3:50:20 PM

random stalker said:
I would consider GTX580 - there is a rumour nvidia forgot to turn off some features, so that card is on par with some of the quattro /$1000+/ professional graphic card solutions. Nice error which was sadly not repeated in the 6xx series...


Interesting...
March 3, 2013 4:15:34 PM

n9p said:
Thanks for your feedback, especially about the video card. I've been torn about this. I was considering this one as well,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125449

but after doing some research, it seems anything over 2GB is really not necessary, so the 2GB in this version,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125423

I like the NH-D14, thanks for the suggestion.

Regarding the Power Supply, I was under the impression that all components eventually contribute to the draw. So, the system described will be the initial build, with monthly add ons until full, i.e. 9 total HDD's, 64GB RAM. Do you really think that a 650W Power Supply is sufficient? Are there advantages to overshooting a little, or is it unnecessary? Are there factors that can contribute to the system drawing variable power, so that would it make sense to use something that is a little bigger?


Your links do not work.

I would agree with the 2gb version.
I do not like the size and triple slot requirement of the Gigabyte unit.
I prefer a direct exhaust stock cooler that gets heat directly out the back of the case.
How about this EVGA GTX670FTW model?
It has a faster boost clock and is less expensive : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Yes, everything does add up, but peripherals such as drives, fans take very small amounts of power. Perhaps 5-10w per hard drive
http://www.wdc.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=1092&...
The most power a GTX670 can draw is 75w from the slot and 150W from the 2 6 pin pci-e connectors.
The max power draw from a power hungry cpu is around 130W
I think you have plenty of reserve with a quality 650w unit like a seasonic X650.
March 3, 2013 4:19:40 PM

It is not wrong to overprovision a psu a bit.
It will only draw the power demanded of it, regardless of it's maximum capability.
Get the X750 version if price is not an big consideration.
March 3, 2013 11:17:03 PM

geofelt said:
It is not wrong to overprovision a psu a bit.
It will only draw the power demanded of it, regardless of it's maximum capability.
Get the X750 version if price is not an big consideration.


I'm wondering about randomstalker's remark.

Quote:
random stalker wrote :

I would consider GTX580 - there is a rumour nvidia forgot to turn off some features, so that card is on par with some of the quattro /$1000+/ professional graphic card solutions. Nice error which was sadly not repeated in the 6xx series...


This was the first result I pulled off google:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/523913/gtx-600...

I'm wondering if this is a concern. In lieu of random stalker's comment, what do you guys think of this card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, if one uses the PCI 2.0 how much more of a downgrade is that in performance?

Also, has anybody encountered problems with the 600 series. I read in another forum that people think NVIDIA did make some kind of mistake, and they have no plans to fix anything, at least in the 600 series.
March 3, 2013 11:46:00 PM

We all want something for nothing. But, I might discount the rumor that the GTX580 has "something extra hidden"

The newer gen 28nm based cards take less power, run cooler, and simply run better.

Pcie 2.0 vs. 3.0 is today a non issue. There is only a negligible difference in performance, using multiple high end cards. I think on the order of 1%, not detectable without a benchmark. If there are any problems with 600 series cards, or any other card for that matter, it will be in the graphics driver for a specific game.

I would ignore those issues too unless you have some sort of particular game and know there is an issue with it.
March 4, 2013 12:45:04 AM

geofelt said:
We all want something for nothing. But, I might discount the rumor that the GTX580 has "something extra hidden"

The newer gen 28nm based cards take less power, run cooler, and simply run better.

Pcie 2.0 vs. 3.0 is today a non issue. There is only a negligible difference in performance, using multiple high end cards. I think on the order of 1%, not detectable without a benchmark. If there are any problems with 600 series cards, or any other card for that matter, it will be in the graphics driver for a specific game.

I would ignore those issues too unless you have some sort of particular game and know there is an issue with it.



Thanks for all your advice geofelt.

Here are my revisions:

Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32Gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler: NH-D14, the really really big one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power supply: Corsair HX-750

Video card: EVGA GTX-670 2GB

Thanks for your feedback again.
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