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March 3, 2013 9:12:56 PM

Hey guys,
I am building a PC for the first time and have been doing a lot of research. I am a bit overwhelmed by all the choices out there. I have made up my mind on a few components (unsure about some) and was wanting some advice on the other components also. I plan on using the computer for gaming, mostly Starcraft 2, and probably Solidworks/other 3D Design programs. Also, I have Windows 8 and want everything to be compatible with that OS.

Here is what I have chosen so far:

Processor: 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti

Motherboard: I want an ASUS motherboard but am not sure which one I want exactly. This is one that has caught my eye, is it a good choice? ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM R2.0 LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Case: Either the Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0 or the Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case. Any advice on these? Or other suggestions?

Components I still haven't found:

RAM - ???

Storage (Hard drive) - ???

Optical Drive - ???

Power Supply - ???

Monitor - ???

More about : build

March 3, 2013 9:21:06 PM

What is your budget? and you plan to overclock?
March 3, 2013 9:30:33 PM

I want to keep it around $800 but am willing to go up to $1000 if necessary.

Here are the prices (most from newegg) of some of the items I have been looking at:

Case - Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0 ($99.99)
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ($49.99)

Motherboard - ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM R2.0 LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard ($64.99)

Processor - 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K ($229.99)

Video Card – EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti ($179.99 on newegg but sold out) I found it for $200+ everywhere else.

So if I went with the cheaper case and say $200 for the video card then that leaves me with $255 if I kept at $800 total. $455 if went to $1000 total.
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March 3, 2013 9:34:09 PM

And as far as overclocking goes, I don't really know too much about it. I know it gets you more processing power but that voids your warranty and increases heat right? So If I get good enough components overclocking is kind of pointless. Also, on the heat topic, I am using a laptop right now that always gets really hot when playing video games so, with this new build, keeping cool tower is a big priority for me.
March 3, 2013 9:54:28 PM

OK, you've chosen a solid processor, however it's only worth the buck if you plan to overclock with it (most overclocking doesn't void your warranty these days, unless you go way overboard). The motherboard you've chosen though doesn't allow for overclocking the CPU. If you want to overclock you need a motherboard with the Z77 chipset, such as the ASUS P8Z77. If you don't want to overclock your CPU you can stick with a H61, save buck and go for an i5-3450. You won't notice the difference at stock speeds in gaming, trust me.

Also the graphics card you've chosen is end of life. You'd be much better off going with a nVidia 600 series or an ATI 7000 series. The 7850/7870 is my recommendation (especially as you can pick up Bioshock Infinite and Tomb Raider for free with these cards).

M
March 3, 2013 10:15:49 PM

Chose an light simple build
Nice USB 3 case and mb
i5 3470 that can OC to 4ghz later on the z75 chipset and a light cooler(can step to 212+ for $10) to handle the OC
660 since it performs same/better than the 560ti and has a large in game cash bundle with it, has CUDA which is good for editing
can opt for 660ti for about $50 more if you want
1 tb 7200.14 HDD
16 gb of ram for editing stuff
Quality 500W PSU
LED screen, and IPS panel one would cost $30 more, your choice (higher image quality)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.79 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RR-H101-22FK-RI 30.0 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.72 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: LG E2211T-BN 22.0" Monitor ($119.92 @ Compuvest)
Total: $887.31
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-03 19:13 EST-0500)
March 3, 2013 10:16:31 PM

Oh okay, good to know, so I'll go with overclocking.

So the ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS ($134.99) would be a good choice?

Okay so the AMD ATI Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 PCIe and AMD ATI Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB GDDR5 PCIe are your recommendations?
March 3, 2013 10:19:34 PM

For an full on OC build I would get something like this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.97 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.72 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.04 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: LG E2211T-BN 22.0" Monitor ($119.92 @ Compuvest)
Total: $976.59
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-03 19:19 EST-0500)
March 3, 2013 10:48:27 PM

Awesome thanks for the feedback! I'll look into this build :) 
March 3, 2013 10:52:14 PM

This all works with windows 8 right?

What is the hardware that limits an OS. As far as what OS's you can use.
March 3, 2013 11:15:51 PM

There's no limits for Windows and Linux (not sure about Mac). Don't worry :)  Anything that says "Windows 8 ready" is just marketing hype.

And in regards to your question about the graphics cards, yes those are the sort of graphics I would recommend. The GTX 660 which Stickmansam linked is the nVidia offering, which typically runs at a speed somewhat between the 7850 and the 7870, depending on the benchmarks of course. It's totally up to you, but if you want to fiddle around with overclocking, the 7850 and 7870 are almost certainly better overclockers than the 660 (depending on your luck of course). My advice is to look at some benchmarks on the web (there are plenty here at Tomshardware) to see how the different cards perform depending on types of games you like to play :) .

Best of luck to you!

M
March 3, 2013 11:17:58 PM

Oh okay :) 
March 4, 2013 12:00:05 AM

stickmansam said:
For an full on OC build I would get something like this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.97 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.72 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.04 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: LG E2211T-BN 22.0" Monitor ($119.92 @ Compuvest)
Total: $976.59
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-03 19:19 EST-0500)


Would this monitor work well with this setup? Asus VS248H-P 24-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor
March 4, 2013 12:55:08 AM

BMilli21 said:
Would this monitor work well with this setup? Asus VS248H-P 24-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor


I would take this monitor over the one you linked since it is an IPS, LED one with almost the same size but cheaper and better image quality

I chose the 660 since it has CUDA which can be useful for editing work. For pure gaming AMD is better price/perf, but throw in some editing/pro apps (which unfortunately support CUDA only sometimes), the 660 is a better choice

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.97 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.72 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.04 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1026.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-03 21:53 EST-0500)
March 4, 2013 1:16:57 AM

Alright thank you for the advice I have finally made my choices and will let you know how it turns out!
March 4, 2013 6:23:25 PM

Wouldn't I need more then 500W if I am overclocking?
March 4, 2013 7:19:13 PM

What about taking into consideration future upgrades? and why wouldn't I be overclocking?
March 4, 2013 7:51:44 PM

Yea I got the 3570K so I should should get a 600W? Or 750W to make room for upgrades?
March 4, 2013 7:58:34 PM

And what power sources would you recommend
March 4, 2013 9:11:19 PM

Thanks for the advice guys :) 
March 5, 2013 12:47:01 AM

Yep those are all great choices, gotta love ASUS stuff, too bad they weren't on sale when I bought my stuff
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