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March 4, 2013 10:29:19 AM

So after a few weeks of showing off my new build to my friends and such. My cousin really wanted to see if I could build him a gaming PC. So that's why I am here

Approximate Purchase Date: Around 2-3 weeks

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before

System Usage from Most to Least Important: A lot of different software such as Adobe, Java, Visual Studio and some mildish Gaming

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: All

Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg & Amazon

Location: City, State/Region, Country - USA

Parts Preferences: Intel/Nvidia

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: It would be great but not needed

Your Monitor Resolution: 1080P

Additional Comments: He cannot change the peripherials as that is not up to me. And the case needs to have a handle for portablilty. Without it the computer is useless and does not fit the function he wants it to do.
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Don't have gaming PC yet.

Had a few problems with the PcPartPicker this time so had to manually add some items. Note there is a $5 coupon code for the 3570k and the Corsair 430w. Also a $20 rebate on the Corsair 430w.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($97.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.60 @ Compuvest)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($163.98 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard ($74.58 @ Amazon)
Other: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ($44.99)
Other: NZXT Vulcan Enthusiast M-ATX Case with Handle ($69.99)
Other: Razer Deathadder Infrared Gaming Mouse ($49.98)
Total: $785.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-04 07:27 EST-0500)

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March 4, 2013 10:34:24 AM

That mobo sucks especially for overclocking get one of these instead
MOBO:ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 4, 2013 11:18:45 AM

Well the problem with this is that the Motherboards you suggested are all ATX and my case is a Micro-ATX. Sooo a bit of a problem there.

And the for the ram I think I'll take it as it saves about $10. Originally I was going to buy another 4gb stick with the rebates. Also but the Crucial Balistix Tactical because it is low profile. As he says he wants to do liquid cooling for OC. That ram does look a bit big but it's $10 cheaper. At the end result if I have room I'll get the 1TB he'd you suggested.
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March 4, 2013 11:48:57 AM

2933304,4,1138584 said:
Well the problem with this is that the Motherboards you suggested are all ATX and my case is a Micro-ATX. Sooo a bit of a problem there.

And the for the ram I think I'll take it as it saves about $10. Originally I was going to buy another 4gb stick with the rebates. Also but the Crucial Balistix Tactical because it is low profile. As he says he wants to do liquid cooling for OC. That ram does look a bit big but it's $10 cheaper. At the end result if I have room I'll get the 1TB he'd you suggested. :lol:  facepalm that's true i didn't see that my bad :(  still that mobo is not very good so i don't know what you should do but the whole build is not very good 650 Ti lol come on man.
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March 4, 2013 12:26:05 PM



Okay so I guess I should have made this clear. The case I selectected almost cannot change. It has support for liquid cooling and is small and portable (handle on top). Above I stated nvidia & intel for the build. He absolutely loves the keyboard/mouse that is selected so that is also not able to be changed. Although this may be a good build for someone else I know. I'll keep it in mind.

If someone could find under $100 Z77 mobo that's a micro ATX . Then that'd be great. Or else I'll use the mobo I originally selected.
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March 4, 2013 12:28:50 PM

get samsung magic ram :p 
1.35v 1600mhz

Also, if you're getting a 650 ti (for that terrible price lol, you can get them for like $120 if you look around) you might as well just get a 660. Much better.
Also, a 7870 or 7850 would probably also be better
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March 4, 2013 12:39:17 PM

cravin said:
get samsung magic ram :p 
1.35v 1600mhz

Also, if you're getting a 650 ti (for that terrible price lol, you can get them for like $120 if you look around) you might as well just get a 660. Much better.
Also, a 7870 or 7850 would probably also be better


Yeah, if you could include links, that'd be great. And on another note. The 600 series compared to the 7000 series. The benchmarks on 600's tend to have steady fps and power consumption. While the 7000's tend to be all over the place. Such as FPS in games. Say that GPU 1 (600 series) max fps is 68 and lowest is 48. While GPU 2 (7000 series) would be 81 fps max and 23 fps lowest. And nvidia tends to take less wattage and doesn't require as big of a power supply. This is not a Nvida vs Ati thread. This is a PC build thread. It might be a bit much for a 650ti but the 660 is $50 more and the 650ti can be OCed to do decent. And he perfers the I5 k because intel does better in single thread applications and is OC capable. The 2500k has some problems with the PCI E 3.0 so thats why I didn't show that. When I get home I'll put the suggested parts into my PcPartPicker build.
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March 4, 2013 12:39:22 PM

didn't see that 7950 build haha, that would be great. Pretty crazy you can get something like that for so cheap
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March 4, 2013 12:52:14 PM

Sorry for the formatting. I am on a iPad and it's a bit difficult to type.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter) Motherboard: ASRock Z77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($97.55 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.00 @ Amazon) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($163.98 @ Newegg) Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard ($74.58 @ Amazon) Other: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ($44.99) Other: NZXT Vulcan Enthusiast M-ATX Case with Handle ($69.99) Other: Razer Deathadder Infrared Gaming Mouse ($49.98) Total: $810.04 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-04 09:47 EST-0500)

So with $20 off with discount codes. It's at $790.04 before rebates. And $770.04 without rebates. So I can fit in the mouse pad he wanted. And maybe some thermal paste? The mouse pad is a Razer Goliathus Extended. Goes for about $26.99. If we could find a cheap 650ti that would be awesome. Gaming is not the main priority for this. He is doing programming & some other software that I don't understand. I was told to go with the i5 unlocked (or k series). And a decent GFX card. So I went with 3570k and the 650ti and OC them both.
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March 4, 2013 1:03:20 PM

For gaming exclusively I think you'd be better off with a 7950 and fx 6300 (or some other amd processor).
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March 4, 2013 3:00:54 PM

Okay so I have given into the 7850. That will mean I need a 500w psu. I have selected these. Any suggestions or changes?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The PSU has a $10 discount code as well.

Here's the updated PcPartPicker
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($97.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard ($74.58 @ Amazon)
Other: NZXT Vulcan Enthusiast M-ATX Case with Handle ($69.99)
Other: Razer Deathadder Infrared Gaming Mouse ($49.98)
Total: $802.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-04 13:09 EST-0500)

So that's at $802.03 without rebates & $772.03 with rebates. So thats around $38 to spend. So I was thinking to buy the mouse pad. $26.99. Then that leaves $11 left.

So what would be the best thing to spend my money?
Thermal paste or a case fan?
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March 4, 2013 5:22:49 PM

The cpu really doesn't matter THAT much for gaming. A fx 6300 and a faster gpu (ie 7950) would be a lot better than an i5 and a 7850. Yes the i5 is better for gaming, but the gpu will make a lot more of a difference. A 7850 is better than a 650 ti, but a 7950 is FAR better. I don't meant to make this AMD vs intel, because I know that intel is better for single core (ie gaming), but the amd fx 6300 is really not far behind. You might even want to get a fx 8320, if you're into doing video encoding/editing. Plus in the future games are LIKELY (not 100%) to get more core usage. Crysis 3 and BF3 can use up to 6 cores at the moment. I'd spend the extra what, $30 for the 2 more cores in the 8320. But thats up to you. :p 
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March 4, 2013 7:31:06 PM

Well I know the AMD being more bang for the buck. But this isn't mainly for gaming and a i5-3570k is definatly going to kill the 6300 in some games. I looked at the benchmarks and on average there is about a 24 fps gain on the 3570k from the 6300. The only benchmark that 6300 even remotely come close to the 3570k is using 7-zip. Which WinRar is better. So it'll do. I think this'll do nicely. In a future build I plan on build in end of March. So I'll get to see the performance first hand. I admit that it is a real value for $140 vs the 3570k that is almost double the price.
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March 5, 2013 1:09:00 AM

Sorry but winrar is terrible. >7zip. With that gaming benchmark, the i5s are FAR better. :p  But with the money you save on a 6300 or wahtever you can afford a better gpu. A 6300 + 7950 is going to be miles ahead of a i5 with a 7850 (or even a 7870). Look it up on google, tehre's lots of threads on 3570k and 7870 vs 6300 and 7950. Unless you can afford a 3570k and a 7950 or higher end gpu, the 6300 and then using the money saved towards a better gpu is the best option.
Another option would be if you live near (or could drive to) a micro center. They hagve the 3570k and 3770k for $180 and $230, respectively (might be 170 or 220, dont remember exactly).
Look up some more different threads and benchmarks
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March 5, 2013 1:21:11 AM

Well its $190 at Microcenter. That's what is in the build right now. This PCs primary function is not gaming. It is for applications that the 3570k does much better than the 6300. I know for "gaming" the 6300 is better for a budget. I will use that in an upcoming build I will do. Is the rig going good so far though?
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March 6, 2013 1:07:15 PM

Okay so I am here so far. Would like to see low profile ram so there are no problems with water cooling. Is low profile ram really needed for water cooling? I plan on getting on of the Corsair water coolers. Probably like the H80 or H100. Whichever cooler fits in the case. So if I do need low profile ram, which would you suggest?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter) Motherboard: ASRock Z77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($97.55 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.00 @ Amazon) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC) Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W ATX12V Power Supply ($39.98 @ Amazon) Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard ($72.90 @ Amazon) Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse ($44.99 @ Dell) Other: NZXT Vulcan Enthusiast M-ATX Case with Handle ($69.99) Total: $784.37 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-06 10:01 EST-0500)
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March 6, 2013 1:32:47 PM

$800 System Components
Motherboard ASRock Z77 Pro3: LGA 1155, Intel Z77 Express
$90
Processor Intel Core i5-3570K: 3.4 GHz Base Clock Rate, 3.8 GHz Turbo Boost, 6 MB Shared L3 Cache
$230
Heat Sink Rosewill RCX-ZAIO-92
$15
Memory Crucial Ballistix Tactical BLE2KIT4GD31608DE1TX0: DDR3-1600 C8, 8 GB (2 x 4 GB)
$53
Graphics PowerColor PCS+ AX7870 Myst Edition 2GBD5-2DHPPV3E
$240
Hard Drive Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002, 500 GB, 7,200 RPM, SATA 6Gb/s
$60
Optical Samsung SH-224BB: DVD Burner
$18
Power Antec Neo Eco 520C: 520 W, ATX12V v2.3, 80 PLUS-Certified
$55

Total Cost $761

And for the rest money you can buy some accessories.

And by the way the build i have typed is from the System Builder Marathon, Q1 2013: $800 Enthusiast PC which is right now trending in tomshardware articles. [:timarp000]

Just made the cabinet run from the above list like [:russk1:5] [:panicmaster85:3]
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March 6, 2013 3:12:48 PM

Looks good but not the computer he would like. Needs keyboard because its mechanical. Needs mouse because it's just awesome. Needs case because it's portable and water cooling support. In this build CPU is more important then GPU. The only reason to get a GPU is mild gaming.
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March 7, 2013 12:41:35 AM

Hewhogamez said:
Looks good but not the computer he would like. Needs keyboard because its mechanical. Needs mouse because it's just awesome. Needs case because it's portable and water cooling support. In this build CPU is more important then GPU. The only reason to get a GPU is mild gaming.


$800 System Components
Motherboard ASRock Z75 Pro3
$80
Processor Intel Core i5-3350P (Ivy Bridge): 3.1 GHz Base Clock Rate, 3.3 GHz Turbo Boost, 6 MB Shared L3 Cache
$180
Heat Sink Rosewill RCX-ZAIO-92
$15
Memory Crucial Ballistix Tactical BLE2KIT4GD31608DE1TX0: DDR3-1600 C8, 8 GB (2 x 4 GB)
$53
Graphics Gigabyte 7850 1GB
$165
Hard Drive Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002, 500 GB, 7,200 RPM, SATA 6Gb/s
$60
Optical Samsung SH-224BB: DVD Burner
$18
Power Antec Neo Eco 520C: 520 W, ATX12V v2.3, 80 PLUS-Certified
$55
Keyboard Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard
$72.90
Mouse Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse
$44.99
Case NZXT Vulcan Enthusiast M-ATX Case with Handle
$69.99
Total Cost $813.88
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March 7, 2013 1:14:10 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/I3cJ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/I3cJ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/I3cJ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B75 PRO3-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.47 @ Compuvest)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($165.66 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard ($69.95 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Optical Mouse ($59.99 @ Best Buy)
Other: NZXT Vulcan Enthusiast M-ATX Case with Handle ($69.99)
Total: $806.31
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-06 22:11 EST-0500)

Don't get coolermaster PSUs; they're not reliable.
I'd skip overclocking at this form factor/price point unless Microcenter has some deal that will make Z77+k processor cheaper? I remember when I bought my i5-3570k, (albeit last summer) they had a $50 discount if you got a Z77 motherboard.

Edit: I put cpu instead of psu :pfff: 
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March 7, 2013 2:16:39 AM

I'm sure I can get $50 off a motherboard. Or something just as good. This build is a few weeks away from being bought so there may be some deals that come up. The computer build is focused around CPU power rather then a gaming PC would be graphics. This is just a Work PC with a $160 GFX added to it. Any other PSUs around $40 500W? I know a few but might be a cheaper ones out there.
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March 7, 2013 2:20:33 AM

Don't cheap out on your psu
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March 7, 2013 2:31:36 AM

I know this but there may be a cheap PSU that does the same as a more expensive one. I got a PSU in mind for this build. Used it in a 660ti & Phenom X6 build. It's a Raidmax 530W Modular PSU for about $43. Sorry that I cannot provide links. On mobile device again.
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March 7, 2013 2:37:17 AM

A 7850 can run off a 450W PSU if it's good quality.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair's CX 500W is 50 after rebate, but it is not the best quality... You really don't want to try to save money on PSUs and end up with a unit that fails and takes other parts with it.

What PSUs were you thinking of?
If you can get the mobo you listed and an i5-3570k at a good price from microcenter, then you need to get an aftermarket cooler to overclock.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
this should be able to give you an overclock to 4.5 Ghz, but i dont know how well that mobo will overclock.

Edit: just saw your most recent post... a cheap PSU will not do as much as a better quality unit, cheaper PSUs often overstate their wattages and have little power on their 12v rails. Raidmax makes one of the worst PSUs on the market:
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
They are tier 5 and not recommended...
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March 7, 2013 2:50:43 AM

I'll try to fit the PSU in the budget. It's a tight squeeze. If it weren't for the amazing Razer products wouldn't have budget problems. Hmm... I'll put the parts together and post the total. Gimmeh a sec.
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March 7, 2013 3:40:05 AM

$800 System Components
Motherboard ASRock Z75 Pro3
$80
Processor Intel Core i5-3350P (Ivy Bridge): 3.1 GHz Base Clock Rate, 3.3 GHz Turbo Boost, 6 MB Shared L3 Cache
$180
Heat Sink Rosewill RCX-ZAIO-92
$15
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4 GB (2 x 2 GB) DDR3-1600
$30
Graphics Gigabyte 7850 1GB
$165
Hard Drive Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002, 500 GB, 7,200 RPM, SATA 6Gb/s
$60
Optical Samsung SH-224BB: DVD Burner
$18
Power Antec Neo Eco 520C: 520 W, ATX12V v2.3, 80 PLUS-Certified
$55
Keyboard Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard
$72.90
Mouse Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse
$44.99
Case N ZXT Vulcan Enthusiast M-ATX Case with Handle
$69.99
Total Cost $790.88 :D 
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