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Dell dimension 3000 new graphics card HELP

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a b U Graphics card
January 14, 2013 7:30:33 PM

That adapter is called a "riser" and will not work inside your computer unless you cut some of the sheet metal out of the back. It looks like it is a mini-tower system but is big enough to fit full size graphics cards in the pcie slot if they're not too long. It only has a 250 W power supply which will not be enough for any decent modern graphics card. If you plan to replace it we can give you some suggestions like the HD 7750.

Also what is your budget and what games do you want to play?
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a c 134 U Graphics card
January 14, 2013 7:37:55 PM

Yea seems like a bit of a gamble in how well it may work. I would take a look at this. It's a geforce 610 it uses a PCI slot and will probably fit the ticket for you. Your computer is old and you only have PCI expandability this could be a good option for you without taking a chance on a riser card that may or may not deliver.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 14, 2013 7:54:29 PM

Dude ! You got a Dell !!

I just retired my last two this weekend.

I just looked at your link - so are you saying you don't have a PCI-E slot? If you don't have a PCI-E slot - I'd say you're outta luck for any 'modern' card (card worth buying).

If you have a PCI-E slot - I'd say the HD 7750 ... that's what Tom's says anyway.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

It may be time to build one. Once you do - you'll never buy a premade again.

Good Luck !!

OBTW - Dell power supplies are actually under rated. If you have a PCI-E slot the HD 7750 will work fine. I have / had a 300w Dell PSU and an HD 6670 for years no problem (the HD 6670 - min power supply recommended is 400w). The HD 6670 uses more power than the HD 7750.
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January 14, 2013 7:55:11 PM

zdbc13 said:
That adapter is called a "riser" and will not work inside your computer unless you cut some of the sheet metal out of the back. It looks like it is a mini-tower system but is big enough to fit full size graphics cards in the pcie slot if they're not too long. It only has a 250 W power supply which will not be enough for any decent modern graphics card. If you plan to replace it we can give you some suggestions like the HD 7750.

Also what is your budget and what games do you want to play?

im looking to play modern games also arma 2

400 is my budget is there any good desktop under 300 then with the extra 100 i will get a good graphics card
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January 14, 2013 7:56:52 PM

odiervr said:
Dude ! You got a Dell !!

I just retired my last two this weekend.

I just looked at your link - so are you saying you don't have a PCI-E slot? If you don't have a PCI-E slot - I'd say you're outta luck for any 'modern' card (card worth buying).

If you have a PCI-E slot - I'd say the HD 7750 ... that's what Tom's says anyway.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

It may be time to build one. Once you do - you'll never buy a premade again.

Good Luck !!

OBTW - Dell power supplies are actually under rated. If you have a PCI-E slot the HD 7750 will work fine. I have / had a 300w Dell PSU and an HD 6670 for years no problem (the HD 6670 - min power supply recommended is 400w). The HD 6670 uses more power than the HD 7750.

whats a good build under 400 budget
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a c 134 U Graphics card
January 14, 2013 8:00:42 PM

Maybe a a8-a10 build with cheap ram and a cheap case. and a 50 dollar power supply. And a cheap 20 dollar optical drive.
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January 14, 2013 8:02:46 PM

Just built a $500 computer for Christmas for my son.

AMD 5800k
ASRock FM2 Mobo
16 GB RAM
Corsair 600w psu ... case, SDD, reused HDD ...

It's the least expensive - gaming computer i could build. I can play World of Tanks at 38 FPS and he can play guild wars 2 (don't know the FPS).

The 5800k can overclock and has a built in GPU in the core (making it an APU).

It's a good gaming machine at 1600 x 900. I would not recommend it for 1920 x 1080.

Intel CPU's are better gamers in my opinion, but they are more expensive and require a dedicated GPU. If you do build watch youtube "computer build parts 2&3"it's a step by step video on how to build and install win 7.

GL !!
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January 14, 2013 8:06:49 PM

+1 for Bigshootr8.

AMD A-10 5800k !!

This is not the best gaming computer, but it's the best in this price range ($500). With good shopping Microcenter (best CPU and Mobo prices), Amazon, newegg, and pcpartpicker.com you might be able to get for $450 post rebates.

Good Luck !!
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January 14, 2013 8:11:02 PM

odiervr said:
+1 for Bigshootr8.

AMD A-10 5800k !!

This is not the best gaming computer, but it's the best in this price range ($500). With good shopping Microcenter (best CPU and Mobo prices), Amazon, newegg, and pcpartpicker.com you might be able to get for $450 post rebates.

Good Luck !!

ok when you say AMD A-110 5800k im not the best with computers do you have a little more info
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January 14, 2013 8:15:16 PM

odiervr said:
+1 for Bigshootr8.

AMD A-10 5800k !!

This is not the best gaming computer, but it's the best in this price range ($500). With good shopping Microcenter (best CPU and Mobo prices), Amazon, newegg, and pcpartpicker.com you might be able to get for $450 post rebates.

Good Luck !!

is this a good pc http://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Gamer-Ultra-GUA880-D...
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January 14, 2013 8:15:47 PM

bigshootr8 said:
Yea seems like a bit of a gamble in how well it may work. I would take a look at this. It's a geforce 610 it uses a PCI slot and will probably fit the ticket for you. Your computer is old and you only have PCI expandability this could be a good option for you without taking a chance on a riser card that may or may not deliver.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

is this a good pc http://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Gamer-Ultra-GUA880-D...
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a c 134 U Graphics card
January 14, 2013 8:19:48 PM

Essentially what is great about AMD A series CPU's is they come with a dedicated graphics card built into them so they aren't really what you could call a CPU they are called APU's I'll put together a build for you to get you started.
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January 14, 2013 8:23:38 PM

bigshootr8 said:
Essentially what is great about AMD A series CPU's is they come with a dedicated graphics card built into them so they aren't really what you could call a CPU they are called APU's I'll put together a build for you to get you started.

ok
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a c 134 U Graphics card
January 14, 2013 8:27:50 PM

This is a pretty good baseline build. I've included everything hard drive which if you want to carry it over to the new machine you save a little there if you wanted to carry over your optical drive another saving point there as well as windows 7 if you already have that. I included 1866 memory because A10 APU's do better with faster memory so you will be happier with that. You could spend less if you wanted to get a cheaper APU maybe a A8 but you are looking around 450-500 dollars for a decent starter gaming machine.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A55M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($59.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.51 @ Compuvest)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 311 (Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $475.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 17:25 EST-0500)
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a b U Graphics card
January 14, 2013 9:14:39 PM

Good build for you. Much better than your old dell.....
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January 14, 2013 9:15:45 PM

i love how this thread turned from 'help me with my pc' -> 'lets make a gaming pc' :) 

1. i had a dell dimension 3xxx series (still works) ...dude give it up. Before graphics the stock processors are too old to run anything, the motherboard doesn't have PCI-Ex16 so you can't put any good graphics cards in it, you'd need to change the cooling system since that PC doesn't use the regular heatsinks.....i could go on forever...either live with playing pre-2000 games or build a new one.

2. any of the builds which ppl comment on (and they will :) ) are all fine, they know what they're talking about, if you have a budget then use the build that bigshootr8 recommended as its cheaper compared to similarly performing pc's.

3. you don't know how to build, you have a dell dimension 3000, dismantle it, blow 'some' dust and reassemble it. :) 

4. could suggest you keep your hard drive, don't need to buy a new windows OS if you do that and don't need to buy a new HDD.

5. ppl, keep geek talking in moderation :) 
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a c 134 U Graphics card
January 14, 2013 9:30:42 PM

Building is fairly easy to do and isn't very challenging. I can find a desktop that would fit his range as well.

And if I can get on my soap box for a minute here. He made it here onto the forums which means I won't talk down to him. If he has the aptitude to make here onto the forums then I believe this man can build a computer without a shadow of a doubt.

here are some a10 desktop machines keep a eye at the pricing. It costs a lot less to assemble it yourself.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

and here are some a8 processor desktops
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...



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January 15, 2013 12:22:11 AM

bigshootr8 said:
This is a pretty good baseline build. I've included everything hard drive which if you want to carry it over to the new machine you save a little there if you wanted to carry over your optical drive another saving point there as well as windows 7 if you already have that. I included 1866 memory because A10 APU's do better with faster memory so you will be happier with that. You could spend less if you wanted to get a cheaper APU maybe a A8 but you are looking around 450-500 dollars for a decent starter gaming machine.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A55M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($59.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.51 @ Compuvest)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 311 (Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $475.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 17:25 EST-0500)

should i do all of that but the case and storage i have a case and storage
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a c 134 U Graphics card
January 15, 2013 12:50:23 AM

As long as your case can support a mini atx board then yes you can use your case. And storage you can use your storage as well. You can if you want this is all on you :) 
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January 15, 2013 1:30:55 AM

bigshootr8 said:
As long as your case can support a mini atx board then yes you can use your case. And storage you can use your storage as well. You can if you want this is all on you :) 

thanks i might do this so what games will this be able to play
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a c 134 U Graphics card
January 15, 2013 1:44:26 AM

It will be able to handle just about every game you want. Perhaps not on the highest settings but you will get decent value out of it. I would say you would get medium settings in just about every game with the possibility of high graphics in some as well. You also end up with the expandability to get a discrete card at some point as well.
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a b U Graphics card
January 15, 2013 1:52:52 AM

is there much of a difference between A10 and A8? both are quad cores with turbo boost and pretty much same graphics performance as well. so an A8 may work better for your build. its less than a $100
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January 15, 2013 1:54:42 AM

bigshootr8 said:
It will be able to handle just about every game you want. Perhaps not on the highest settings but you will get decent value out of it. I would say you would get medium settings in just about every game with the possibility of high graphics in some as well. You also end up with the expandability to get a discrete card at some point as well.

thanks man you helped me BIG time 1 more thing if my labtop is windows 7 can i copy the files to my other HDD and run it on the PC i build
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January 15, 2013 1:54:52 AM

Best answer selected by universalmodder.
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a c 134 U Graphics card
January 15, 2013 1:55:42 AM

Glad I could help you man.
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January 15, 2013 1:59:23 AM

bigshootr8 said:
Glad I could help you man.

1 more thing if my labtop is windows 7 can i copy the files to my other HDD and run it on the PC i build
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a c 134 U Graphics card
January 15, 2013 2:07:42 AM

Well before they close the thread if they close the thread because its solved you can private message me if they do. But yea you can copy your files over to your other hard drive. Programs are a little more difficult. There is software that will create a image of your drive in the case of a emergency so I would imagine you could use that as well.
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January 15, 2013 11:59:22 AM

"ok when you say AMD A-110 5800k im not the best with computers do you have a little more info"

Here's what I mean:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it...

The $500 in the above (in-depth) article MAY be better - that's what I mean. The answer is more of an art than a science. To put it another way - it depends.

Depends on if the specific game is CPU dependant (A-10 would be better, has more cores) or if the game is more GPU dependant (Intel would be better 'cause it has a dedicated Graphics card (hd 7850)).

Sorry for the geek info but at some point all this matters in your frames per second and ability to run the game at medium or high settings.

Tomshardware has an endless amount of data ... lots of $500 builds to choose from.

Good luck !
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