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March 5, 2013 5:52:58 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week, im very very excited :bounce: 

Budget Range: $500-650

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (currently skyrim 70+mods at 10 fps on low...), porn if im being honest :lol:  , and general tech savvy tom foolery.

Are you buying a monitor: i use my 40 inch TV (vga/hdmi)

Parts to Upgrade: id like to use parts from my aspire X1430G if they wont slow me down, maybe keep the ram and the optical and HDD???

Do you need to buy OS: uhhh, idk, would the windows 7 on my hard drive still work if i dont clear it? either way a buddy says he can get me a copy of windows and i can also use ubuntu right?

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: anywhere with a decent rating and price. i generally use amazon or newegg or pcppartpicker but im open.

Location: lincoln, ne, usa, aka middle of nowhere

Parts Preferences: This is what I've picked out so far but again im open to suggestions on all of it (but the tempest is the only case out of thousands that i looked at that i liked, js) and this will sound dumb but a color scheme would b nice but not essential.
case - nzxt tempest elite 410
mother - AS Rock LGA1155 Intel Z77 CrossFireX SATA3 USB3.0 A GbE ATX Z77 PRO4
ram - 2x 3ddr 1333 for now if it wont hinder the system much.
cpu - i5 quad core (dunno which one though)

Overclocking: i'd like to try just to say i do lol.


SLI or Crossfire: it would be nice just in case but i honestly dont know.


Your Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/coby-tftv4025/45...


Additional Comments: my current addiction is skyrim 70 + mods and running at 10 fps on my POS aspire. im thinking of leaving ps4 for desktop so yea.


And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: well 1 ps4 comes out soon, 2 im not playing consoles much anymore, 3 my aspire sucks balls :pfff:  .

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a c 146 U Graphics card
March 5, 2013 6:02:53 AM

We won't help you pirate windows here. No, you cannot use a HDD with it already installed. You have to do a fresh install

In order to Play game son high settings, dedicate at least $200 of your budget for the GPU. Remember that gaming is 15% CPU and 80% GPU.

I can max skyrim and I have an i3.

You can reuse the DVD drive from your old PC, thats about it.

Don't forget you will need a good PSU 500w+ Antec, XFX, Corsair, SEasonic.
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March 5, 2013 6:07:19 AM

tiny voices said:
We won't help you pirate windows here. No, you cannot use a HDD with it already installed. You have to do a fresh install

In order to Play game son high settings, dedicate at least $200 of your budget for the GPU. Remember that gaming is 15% CPU and 80% GPU.

I can max skyrim and I have an i3.

You can reuse the DVD drive from your old PC, thats about it.

Don't forget you will need a good PSU 500w+ Antec, XFX, Corsair, SEasonic.

i wasnt asking yall to help me pirate.

yeah but with i5 i would have room to grow and develop right? and isnt it better for watching movies too?

why wouldnt i be able to reuse the HDD its 500 gig which is more than i need and its 7200 rpm?

thnx in advance for everyones help!
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a c 146 U Graphics card
March 5, 2013 6:15:38 AM

A cheap dual core pentium will watch movies just as good as an i5.

You can reuse the HDD.

GPU is what matters the most for gaming.
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March 5, 2013 6:21:53 AM

tiny voices said:
A cheap dual core pentium will watch movies just as good as an i5.

You can reuse the HDD.

GPU is what matters the most for gaming.

oh i see what you were saying, my bad. so then what advantage is i5 over i3?
also im still needing help finding that graphics card, js...
and ur probably right about the ram, i guess i will take some help there too.
are two 4 gigs as fast as one 8 gig?
how important is the CAS?
anything else i should know about ram?
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a c 146 U Graphics card
March 5, 2013 6:23:37 AM

You want 2x4gb 8gb in total. cas9 1600mhz.

An i5 is a quad core so it performs better than the i3. If you budget allows then an i5 is the best way to go. If not, an i3 or fx-6300 are good options too.
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March 5, 2013 6:32:24 AM

tiny voices said:
You want 2x4gb 8gb in total. cas9 1600mhz.

An i5 is a quad core so it performs better than the i3. If you budget allows then an i5 is the best way to go. If not, an i3 or fx-6300 are good options too.

ok a few more questions, sry. is this motherboard good enough?
http://www.amazon.com/ASRock-H77-Motherboard-PRO4-MVP/d...
ill look into the i3 and i5 more later but when i do, what is the differences in the 4 digit numbers? cause theres lots of i5's and i3's that all seem very similar.
so lets assume that i have between 180 and 300 to spend on gpu, what are some good gpu's throughout that range?
also some say video supported and otehrs say video ready, does this mean i have to get a video card on some but not others?
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a c 146 U Graphics card
March 5, 2013 1:40:10 PM

You an use any video card you want. That motherboard will be great.

Some cards to took at: hd7870/7950. gtx660/660ti
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March 5, 2013 3:09:48 PM

That motherboard is Crossfire only, which means that you are limited to ATI cards. No Nvidia.

Go with the i5 processor. And, yes--as Avenged says, the 7870 is a good choice.
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a c 91 U Graphics card
March 5, 2013 3:09:50 PM

Yep - I was coming in here to say the same thing as Avenged - the 7870 LE/XT/Myst is exactly what you're looking for.

Then either get an i5-3350p or a Pentium G2130, depending on budget, plunk it in there, and you're good to go.
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a c 91 U Graphics card
March 5, 2013 3:11:21 PM

ZippyPeanut said:
That motherboard is Crossfire only, which means that you are limited to ATI cards. No Nvidia.

Go with the i5 processor. And, yes--as Avenged says, the 7870 is a good choice.


He's got a $600 budget. I don't think crossfire / SLI matters much. (Besides, he'l be going with an AMD card anyways, for value's sake.)

Just throwing out there, the 7870 does NOT equal the 7870 XT - the xt model should rightly be named the 7930, as it's a slightly disabled 7950.
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March 6, 2013 1:57:51 AM

ZippyPeanut said:
That motherboard is Crossfire only, which means that you are limited to ATI cards. No Nvidia.

Go with the i5 processor. And, yes--as Avenged says, the 7870 is a good choice.

might i want these cards in the future? is there an atx board in that range that does support them?
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March 6, 2013 2:09:01 AM

DarkSable said:
Yep - I was coming in here to say the same thing as Avenged - the 7870 LE/XT/Myst is exactly what you're looking for.

Then either get an i5-3350p or a Pentium G2130, depending on budget, plunk it in there, and you're good to go.

i read the P means its HD graphics are disabled. and i read about the LE card before i even posted here and its a good card but what about time variance?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performanc...
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a c 91 U Graphics card
March 6, 2013 2:11:55 AM

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Frame time variance is acceptable across the board.


You're correct about what the P means, and the 7870XT is pretty much the best option under $400 right now.
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a c 91 U Graphics card
March 6, 2013 2:13:37 AM

ben_da_destroyer said:
might i want these cards in the future? is there an atx board in that range that does support them?


It's not going to be a problem.
Crossfire and SLI is using two AMD or two Nvidia cards working together.

It's only recommended if a single high-end card isn't enough (for triple monitor setups or insane resolution or 3d or what have you) and you need more power.

I can pretty much guarantee you that you aren't going to go out and buy two Nvidia GTX 670s and then complain that your motherboard is the problem - you'd want to upgrade the rest of your system before you did that anyways.
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March 6, 2013 2:19:14 AM

DarkSable said:
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Frame time variance is acceptable across the board.


You're correct about what the P means, and the 7870XT is pretty much the best option under $400 right now.

whats the difference between say, i5 3350 and 3330?
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a c 146 U Graphics card
March 6, 2013 2:20:29 AM

Nothing at all really. There will be no noticeable difference.
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a c 91 U Graphics card
March 6, 2013 2:26:49 AM

ben_da_destroyer said:
whats the difference between say, i5 3350 and 3330?


Five bucks, .1 GHz, and integrated graphics. Both would be fine.
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March 6, 2013 2:32:09 AM

DarkSable said:
Five bucks, .1 GHz, and integrated graphics. Both would be fine.

the difference in a lot of items seem very insignificant and petty and yet they try upselling every tiny niche.
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