I have a bit of an issue with low frame rates under special circumstances. During playing MMORPGs my frame rate chokes or drops down to 1 when entering for instance a building or if turning around in large open areas (with low population). It's getting frustrating to the point that I'm going to give up playing MMORPGs until I can purchase a new PC one day in the future. So an example scenario would be that my average FPS is 70-75, and suddenly when I walk into a building it goes down to 1 FPS, and then goes up to 120 FPS inside the building. Same happens if I turn quickly in a low populated open landscape area; the FPS is a steady 70-75 and drops down to 1 and then up again to normal. These extreme dips or drops causes a slight 1-2 second stuttering that is getting beyond annoying. So my question is if anyone has had this experience or has any clue where I could start troubleshooting? I forgot to mention that this does not happen on modern single player games e.g. Hitman Absolution, Max Payne 3, even the port L.A. Noire runs great. It's an MMO based problem, same happening on several MMOs from older ones to latest releases.
My setup is as follows:
CPU: Intel i7 3500k @ ~3.5GHz
GPU: Gigabyte Geforce GTX 660 Ti OC 1032/6008 MHz
Storage: Samsung 830 SSD 256GB 2.5"
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-i Deluxe
Memory: Cruical 16GB (2x8GB) 1600MHz 8-8-8-24-1
Powersupply: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650M 650W
CPU Fan: Noctua NH-C12P SE14
Case Fans: Several Corsair AP/SP series (got them on sale).
My CPU temp never reaches anything beyond 55 Celsius (idles at 29 Celsius or so) and 65 max for my Graphics Card (idles at 26-27 Celsius). I have heavy airflow through the case and OK CPU fan and stock GPU fan. In MSI Afterburner I notice odd behavior like core clock and memory clock dropping down to 324 in idle mode. That to me is a bit of a worry since what if it needs to react quickly?
I've tried to update all drivers, update all firmwares and using the latest BIOS where applicable. I've run MEMTEST for approximately 5 hours with no errors but I will rerun it a longer time with different settings. I've relaxed the memory timings to 9-9-9-24-1 just to see if it helps but no difference.
Basically I'm stuck and appreciate any help, tips, ideas or advice to get my MMORPG addiction to be more enjoyable!
Thanks in advance.
Is this a new problem or has it happend ever since you built the PC. Also you say this doesn't happen in single player games only MMO. So do you play the Single player games online with out issue ? Alot of MMo's have a "lag" spike meter you may want to check that to see if your having spikes may point to a problem with your firewall/network etc.
I'm going to do a complete cleaning of drivers with Driver Fusion and re-install all the latest drivers for everything and then retry it. But first to answer both your questions:
- I did not play MMOs on this computer until recently.
- I haven't played any Single Player games Online so to speak. They're all purchased from Steam.
- I have posted trace routes/pings previously on the respective MMO forums (and everything seemed ok).
- I complete forgot (thanks ikaz), I've played Planetside 2 and Team Fortress 2 with no graphical issues or latency issues. In fact everything performed excellent with a latency of 5-11 ms max on (TF2 servers)!
- The issues are specific to traditional MMOs with loading larger maps and landscapes. (almost feels like an object distance sorting problem or loading problem.)
- My network is 100/100 mbit. It performs OK with test servers of 95mbit down and 93mbit up. I'm connected through an Apple Airport Extreme with a Ethernet cable running on a 1Gbit connection from my computer to the router and into the media box which goes to fiber.
- I run ESET Security latest version and use Gaming mode so it doesn't interfere (cross my fingers).
To me the odd thing is that everything runs smooth playing single player games offline, and the FPS games online but traditional MMORPGs start to hickup.
I may just download all the latest drivers, and wipe and re-install everything including Windows 7 and upgrade it to Windows 8 while I'm at it.
As always really appreciate the suggestions, questions and help.
Yes, I was going to ask what MMO, I know for example that WOW has a 64-bit client now, and also try scribbles suggestions.
Everything from Vanguard, The Secret World, Everquest, Guild Wars 2. Please note that this happens in low populated areas also and is not specific to population and texture/resource loading of other players as such.
I know that Guild Wars 2 is EXTREMELY Cpu heavy! When the frames drop check your cpu usage. It could be bottle necking your gpu! I get around 70~100 fps (i5 3570k @4.5ghz and a Msi 660ti) but I some areas I will get 40 FPS (only like 3 people there too)
Yeah, guild wars 2 is simply badly coded - don't hope for it to ever run perfectly.
As for the others, here's a weird thought, but it only takes a second to check. When you open Task Manager, how many graphs are under CPU usage history in the performance tab? It could be your computer is only using a single core.
I'm posting to follow up that it has been resolved. I did do a clean install and upgrade to windows 8 also but prior to that I turned my computer on for 11 hours of unattended MEMTEST. After the 3rd Pass it seems that it started finding errors. In the end it has located 7 addresses that were not returning the correct values. I proceeded to reboot and restart again. Again the same addresses that I wrote down showed volatile RAM memory not returning what it was suppose too. So I went back to the shop returned the RAM and got Corsair Vengance 16GB (2x8GB) 9-9-9-24-1 sticks.
Everything is now running so smooth it brings tears to my eyes. I'm ecstatic and back to my MMORPG super addiction.
I just want to say thank you to all of you for taking the time to ask questions and replying with ideas. I would never had tried another MEMTEST if it wasn't for making 100% sure that I'm not posting wrongful replies back here on this board.
The ironic part is that when I got the computer the first thing was that I did a 2 pass MEMTEST and everything checked out fine. I thought "Hey it's a new puter assembled by people that do it everyday" but of course they can't always detect a faulty component either if it happens over a small period of time.
Thanks again guys, no more extreme stuttering and weird behavior in MMOs. The errors were in the higher region of the first stick which I guess the GPU had reserved for loading textures and didn't show up on Single Player games and stuff.