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Opinions/Suggestions on a New First Build, Approx. $900

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March 5, 2013 5:29:50 PM

Hello everyone, First I just want to thank you all for all the really useful information you keep providing on this great website!.
So, I'm going to build a new rig, And I'm trying to make it as powerful as I can without exceeding the budget and I want your professional opinions, like if something is incompatible or weak or things like this...

CPU: AMD FX-8350 eight-core Processor @ 4.0 GHz
GPU: AMD RADEON HD 7870 2GB*
MEMORY: Corsair 8GB DDR3 1866Mhz Vengeance Memory**
HDD: WD 2TB WD20EARX 2TB
CASE & PSU: Cooler Master K380 MID Tower + Extreme Power Plus 500W PSU***
MOTHERBOARD: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-D3


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  • Approximate Purchase Date: this week.

  • Budget Range: $900.

  • System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D Rendering (e.g.: Maya/3ds Max), A LOT OF Gaming, Programming and Movies.

  • Overclocking: Maybe.

  • SLI or Crossfire: Maybe.

  • Your Monitor Resolution: 1920*180.
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    *I'm really confused about which one should I buy (XFX, Sapphire, Gigabyte or Hawk)
    **Should I buy this or a G.Skill Memory?
    ***Is the 500W PSU Enough?
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    Thanks In Advance. :) 
    March 5, 2013 6:23:15 PM

    *I would recommend the 7870 LE. It's only a bit more expensive than the average 7870, and gives a huge performance increase.

    **Both Corsair and GSkill make good memory. Buy whichever one is cheaper

    ***Yes, but if you plan on sli/crossfire in the future, get 750W instead
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    March 5, 2013 6:24:34 PM

    For $900 you can do way better than that. The power supplies that come with cases are extremely poor quality and are likely to blow up or short out on you. Intel and NVIDIA would be a better choice for rendering because of the added hardware acceleration benefits from the GTX 6XX series.

    Here's what I would suggest:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.55 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: OCZ Vector Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.64 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
    Total: $936.11
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-05 15:24 EST-0500)
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    March 5, 2013 7:24:02 PM

    Actually I the addional cores of AMD maybe be better than for rendering since those application should be able scale. I also check open CL/direct compute vs cuda preformace before saying Nvida/intel are better.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-rev...

    Looks like the AMD cpu is better than the i5 for rendering if the program and is truely multi threaded.

    take alook at this for a possible choice of cards


    http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/AutoDesk-Maya...
    http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/AutoDesk-Maya...
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    March 5, 2013 8:13:31 PM

    ikaz said:
    Actually I the addional cores of AMD maybe be better than for rendering since those application should be able scale. I also check open CL/direct compute vs cuda preformace before saying Nvida/intel are better.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-rev...

    Looks like the AMD cpu is better than the i5 for rendering if the program and is truely multi threaded.

    take alook at this for a possible choice of cards


    http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/AutoDesk-Maya...
    http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/AutoDesk-Maya...


    If it came between the i7-3770K and the FX-8320 I'd personally go with the 3770K. However that is a pretty interesting benchmark.

    Quaddros are very old, very power hungry cards and they're also very expensive. Same thing with the newer Fire Pros. If you want any decent model of those, you're going to pay big bucks for them.
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    March 5, 2013 8:28:08 PM

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.72 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $906.62
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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    March 5, 2013 9:00:36 PM

    properbuilds said:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.72 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $906.62
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


    No need for a Xeon, stick with i5/i7.
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    March 5, 2013 9:13:57 PM

    Hi, he said :

    henawy said:

  • System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D Rendering (e.g.: Maya/3ds Max)


  • The xeon 1230 V2 is an i7 IB without the integrated graphics and a it's a lot cheaper, since there's a discrete card, it's expendable :) 
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    March 5, 2013 10:13:36 PM

    properbuilds said:
    Hi, he said :



    The xeon 1230 V2 is an i7 IB without the integrated graphics and a it's a lot cheaper, since there's a discrete card, it's expendable :) 


    To me it's not really worth it - Xeon is more of use in a server environment then it is in a desktop environment. The integrated graphics aren't needed - that's true, but at the same time if something goes wrong with your GPU it helps if they're there.
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    March 5, 2013 10:27:37 PM

    Hi, even for other stuff it's the same as the i7, the main thing is really the igp, but with a discrete card, it's solved, the op might also have a old pcie card, for testing.
    If the op needs to be amd :

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.72 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $904.62
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

    A bit over, but with ssd, in my opinion it's worth the extra :) 
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    March 6, 2013 9:08:55 AM

    Thank you all for all the responds and the great information!.

    I think I'm going to choose the AMD processor because of the 8-Cores...

    Corsair for the memory...

    XFX 7870 2GB Card UNLESS I find a REALLY good deal on the 7950

    For the Power Supply, I'm going to stick with the one that'll come with it (500W), because I'm not planing on any crossfire in the future.

    Tomorrow I'm going to buy all the parts and I'll be sure to tell you how it was... :) 


    Special Thanks To Chairman Ray, g-unit1111, ikaz and properbuilds for all the great replies! :D 
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    March 6, 2013 3:05:14 PM

    Hi, try to get the 7870 XT or as it's called 7870 tahiti le, it's more like a 7950 in terms of performance.
    The ram doesn't need to be from corsair, the vengeance has huge tall heat spreaders and for clearance that's a no go.
    And no, don't get the psu that comes with the case, it's junk, with a FX and a 7870, get a quality psu, the corsair CX500 is more than sufficient, don't cheap out on the psu.
    Get the FX-8320, it's cheaper than the FX-8350, you can overclock it as well, better value with the FX-8320 :) 

    If you don't care about the ssd, do this.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($172.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.65 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($133.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.72 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $860.27
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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    March 6, 2013 5:21:13 PM

    properbuilds said:
    Hi, try to get the 7870 XT or as it's called 7870 tahiti le, it's more like a 7950 in terms of performance.
    The ram doesn't need to be from corsair, the vengeance has huge tall heat spreaders and for clearance that's a no go.
    And no, don't get the psu that comes with the case, it's junk, with a FX and a 7870, get a quality psu, the corsair CX500 is more than sufficient, don't cheap out on the psu.
    Get the FX-8320, it's cheaper than the FX-8350, you can overclock it as well, better value with the FX-8320 :) 

    If you don't care about the ssd, do this.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($172.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.65 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($133.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.72 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $860.27
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


    The problem is that I couldn't find the 7870 LE here in Egypt online anywhere, I will go to a different shop tomorrow and look for it but I want your opinion on something, The XFX 7870 has the price as the SAPPHIRE 7950, I searched the forums but everyone has a different opinion on XFX and SAPPHIRE, What do you think?.

    OK I think I'll go with the CX-500 and buy the case without the PSU...

    For the processor, I'm really new to the OC'ing, My current computer is completely out of date so I really don't know what or how I'm going to do it or anything, that's why I was thinking of sticking with the 8350 and not overclock it...

    What do you think?

    (Really thanks for your great help! :)  )
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    March 6, 2013 5:24:44 PM

    Hi, i still recommend the FX-8320 if it's a lot cheaper, there's guides to overclock the cpu, bumping to 4 ghz will be easy.
    The CX is decent at least, if the xfx 7870 is at the same price as the sapphire 7950, get the sapphire, get it now, the sapphire is a good brand :) 
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    March 6, 2013 6:47:10 PM

    Thanks to properbuilds and byogamingpc, This is the parts I think I'd settled on, for now at least...

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($147.86 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card
    Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $627.81 (No Video Card OR CPU Cooler)


    For the video card, The prices here in Egypt is really different (as I said the 7870 and The 7950 are nearly the same), So I'm going with the SAPPHIRE 7950

    For The Memory I'll try to find the Crucial Ballistix ones, If I didn't find any, I'll buy the G.Skill Trident X or Ripjaws-X (16GB)

    I think that the Gigabyte motherboard is good.

    For The CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212

    I'm going to go with the FX-8320 and Just follow a guide and learn how to OC It :D  Thank You properbuild for this info. :D 
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    March 6, 2013 6:59:15 PM

    Hi, yes, the gigabyte is a good board, and the cooler too :) 
    As for the ram go for the cheapest, as long as it's from a good brand like crucial, corsair, g.skill, patriot, kingston with 1600 mhz and dual channel(2x4GB).
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